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Joe B

@AstroJoeB

24 | Catholic | Mechanical Design Engineer | RPI ‘24 | Former @LucyMission Intern | STEM Communicator | All Opinions my Own

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Joe B
Joe B@AstroJoeB·
No offense, but that’s not an argument if you don’t actually know the history. God gave us the power of free will. We are free to rebel against Him, free to sin, free to do anything we want. Everything He does is purposeful, and the purpose is to bring us closer to Him. He absolutely could’ve made us as predetermined robots who do everything He says and live only by His word. Now why do you think He chose not to do that?
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kepilar@kepilar77·
@AstroJoeB I grew up going to church, I know the doctrine + the apologetics well. How can he be merciful when he created the scenario? Havnt found an explanation where any of it is logical in my mind.
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Joe B@AstroJoeB·
@kepilar77 It was established less than 100 years after Christ’s crucifixion. Interpreted directly from the Bible.
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kepilar@kepilar77·
@AstroJoeB Yeah, it’s a lil’ vague - the concept was definitely developed, later.
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Joe B
Joe B@AstroJoeB·
@kepilar77 You’re right, he didn’t have to do that. It was a choice, made by a merciful God, to experience humanity. I feel like you need to research Christianity more in depth, both the theology and its history. I highly recommend listening to Fr. Mike Schmitz.
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kepilar@kepilar77·
@AstroJoeB Not really - he created that scenario when he didn’t need to.
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Joe B@AstroJoeB·
@kepilar77 Of course the violence is there. It was violence that Jesus could have stopped at any time, because He is God. Yet, he chose to allow the suffering so that we may be freed from sin and join him in everlasting life. There’s something beautiful about that, huh?
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kepilar@kepilar77·
@AstroJoeB The violence is there - it’s a central theme, Jesus died a violent death. God created a scenario where things get ugly if you don’t worship him.
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Joe B
Joe B@AstroJoeB·
@kepilar77 “The Father and I are one.” -John 10:30 “Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I AM.” -John 8:58
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kepilar@kepilar77·
@AstroJoeB The concept of ‘one essence, three distinct persons’ isn’t laid out in the bible. it was developed to solve the question ‘is Jesus god or was he created by god’ in the early church.
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Joe B@AstroJoeB·
@kepilar77 Yes, you’re the one who added the violence unnecessarily. You’re trying to portray a hateful, violent god, not the actual loving God. Hence why I said your assessment was off.
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kepilar@kepilar77·
@AstroJoeB Isn’t this what I said, but with the violence taken out? God created this insane scenario.
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Joe B@AstroJoeB·
@kepilar77 The concept of the Trinity was not “added later.” It’s been there since the beginning. Research the Council of Nicaea and the Council of Constantinople. Heck, the concept as a whole dates back to the 1st century AD.
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kepilar@kepilar77·
@AstroJoeB It was added, after though to make sense of the contradiction.
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Joe B@AstroJoeB·
@kepilar77 From the beginning, people have rebelled against God, yet He never stopped loving us. Instead, He came to Earth in the flesh to fulfill His promises from the Old Testament. He suffered and died for our sins. He faced death so that we may have eternal life.
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Joe B@AstroJoeB·
@kepilar77 I can acknowledge that the concept itself is confusing, but it’s laid out relatively clearly. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are all referred to pretty directly. I’ll take what you said and reword it to be more accurate.
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Joe B@AstroJoeB·
Alternatively, the SU-57 gets blown up by a $10 temu drone while sitting on the tarmac
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Joe B@AstroJoeB·
@kepilar77 The Trinity is Biblical. The word “trinity” is not in the Bible, but the concept is. God exists as three persons but is not three gods. He exists as three equally divine, equally eternal persons. I believe that your assessment of Christianity was totally off, yes.
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kepilar@kepilar77·
@AstroJoeB We’re talking about a mythical being, split into 3 but then each one is 100% God. But they’re not each other. And none of it’s in the Bible. Was my assessment of Christianity totally off in the last tweet?
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Joe B@AstroJoeB·
@kepilar77 Well that seems to be the problem. It takes a lot more than 5 minutes of thinking to understand Christianity. I want to take one thing at a time though, what’s the problem with the trinity?
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kepilar@kepilar77·
@AstroJoeB The trinity aside, when you think about Christianity for 5 mins, the central theme is insane - a deity sends himself to be violently executed so that you can be saved from the terrible things he’s going to do to you if you don’t worship him. The math is off in my mind.
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Joe B@AstroJoeB·
@kepilar77 Feel free to elaborate on what’s so ridiculous about it
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kepilar@kepilar77·
@AstroJoeB Joe, things like the trinity aren’t any less ridiculous sounding.
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Joe B@AstroJoeB·
@JFrankleKSC I don’t know and I’m not going to pretend I do. I can however give my opinion. The way I view it is that suffering and injustice are a result of our free will.
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Jared Frankle
Jared Frankle@JFrankleKSC·
@AstroJoeB Yet an all powerful god can not put an immediate end to injustice and suffering in a world of their own design and control? This has never made sense to me ever.
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Joe B@AstroJoeB·
@Zalman441 @ohiosentry @masteroogwgay “The Father and I are one.” -John 10:30 “Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I AM.” -John 8:58
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Sercan
Sercan@Zalman441·
@ohiosentry @masteroogwgay Your mistake is thinking that Jesus was a god. Jesus was a great prophet. He was not God. Even in the Bible, he is not directly referred to as God.
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Joe B@AstroJoeB·
“Iran lost 95% of their leadership, their entire Air Force and Navy are gone, and the skies are controlled by the US Air Force, they’re totally still winning though”
Timothy Snyder@TimothyDSnyder

He took the greatest military force in world history, lost a war to a middle power in a week, begged the world to save him, and demanded that the media lie about this and everything else. I try, but at a simple human level I do not see how anyone can mistake this man’s almost supernatural weakness for strength. His weakness is something negative, gravitational, so deep that it can draw in a whole country. But only if we fail to see it. Only if we let it.

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