Egbert Milton

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Egbert Milton

Egbert Milton

@Egger438

انضم Haziran 2022
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@AcidBreak331 @AspirinJuice425 It's not like Kris hasn't seen Asgore for years though. For little as Kris visits, the impressions on their mind about Asgore are more obsession with Dess's disappearance and Toriel divorce, the failing business of the shop and the reliance on Carol for sustenance.
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#1 kris defender
#1 kris defender@AcidBreak331·
@Egger438 @AspirinJuice425 While not hanging out with their father nearly at all, their impression of Asgore right now is a man surrounded by flowers and messing around with their teacher watching anime. I get where the idea Kris might get that their dad is a loser weeb 😭
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🪷 Willow AspirinJuice🪷 (she/her)
🪷 Willow AspirinJuice🪷 (she/her)@AspirinJuice425·
Big fan of the implication that Asgore actually isn't that into anime and Alphys was the one gifting him all that stuff. We accidentally caught him at a very Japanese time of his life and he's not even an anime fan. He just likes what she gave him
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@AcidBreak331 @AspirinJuice425 I mean in terms of how they see the world. This is a dark world I'd expect Alphys to make, but Kris? The last dark world they made was a entertainment hub with darkness and attachment issues lurking within. This isn't Kris's character about the place on surface or deeper within.
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#1 kris defender
#1 kris defender@AcidBreak331·
@Egger438 @AspirinJuice425 Kris certainly has strong feelings about anime, they don't want to read anything about it, we get one of the most extreme reactions from them just by attempting to read a review ("NONONONONO") they skip through what Alphys says about the anime she watches with Asgore
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@AcidBreak331 @AspirinJuice425 Maybe, but is that really enough to affect how they see the appearance of the whole dark world? Not just a section. It seems far too surface level to really paint a dark world around the aesthetic. Without either Asgore or Kris having strong feelings about anime, it feels off.
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#1 kris defender
#1 kris defender@AcidBreak331·
@Egger438 @AspirinJuice425 Out of all the critism for Ch5...honestly yeah this is my opinion too. Maybe it's meant to represent how Kris views Asgore since Alphys made a big deal out of their weeb sharing, or is meant to be affected by the flowers who probably watched the anime alongside Asgore?
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@kwabipocalypse Why are people acting like it's more respectful to sugarcoat the details for Kris. If anything, it disrespects the victim's memory, by not taking her part in their family's life in relevance. Its invalidating his growth to see him restrain about his closeness to the incident.
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@kwabipocalypse Except who's asking for that? For someone who just saw their child badly beat up cause he didn't ensure their safety, Asgore is far too restrained in conveying his feelings. A messier who, what, when and where makes much more sense than him stiltedly referring to his failure.
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kim
kim@kwabipocalypse·
i genuinely wonder why a parent would not repeat the gory and explicit details of a traumatizing event to their child who was traumatized by said event
🎄🇨🇷@mitsukanehive

My only complaint abt deltarune chapter 5 (in a funny way) is how everybody in town (specially Asgore) talk abt the past like it's written by oda. "On THAT horrible day" "when THAT tragedy happened" "when THAT individual makes the fountain" I HAVE NO CONTEXT. BE SPECIFIC FOR ME

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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@saturniines The dark world barely goes into his psychology, Asgore is basically made a damsel that barely does anything with his time without even the sleeping excuse of Toriel, and even his shift to being cold and dismissive feels out of character, with the Kris talk being too restrained.
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@images_i_hate2 My goodness, the glazers are desperate here. In what world is story progression comparable to Undertale. Deltarune can't and shouldn't rely on that excuse, when it's far longer and split into chapters with year long gaps. Are you just dumb?
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🖤🩶🩵Jessica🩵🩶🖤
🖤🩶🩵Jessica🩵🩶🖤@images_i_hate2·
Ppl mad we haven't seen dess yet like in undertale we didn't even know asgore and toriel even had children until the last stretch of the neutral route
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@AspirinJuice425 It’s so surface level in ch 5. It’d be better if Asgore was the one to choose to make the fountain, not Kris again making a parent a damsel. If it’s about Asgore’s nostalgia, have him look through his memories of Rudy, or deeply geek out about the cowboy show he loves
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@AspirinJuice425 It’s doesn’t even speak well to Kris’s psychology and they made the world. It feels like Toby got too obsessed with the Japanese aesthetic when more focus could be given on Asgore’s struggles, his financial woes, his dying best friend, his whole needing Carol’s help, and sorrow
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@TerryHillWilli1 @theriverdraws Fucker has loving albeit divorced parents, a loving brother and multiple good friends, Kris is just a greedy bum who barely appreciates any good will towards them
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Technogeek29
Technogeek29@TerryHillWilli1·
@theriverdraws Ah Kris suffers from "I would choose them any day of the week, but they would never choose me." Tragic given that Kris is very loved starved where even negative attention means something to them.
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@theriverdraws Needs more suffering for how much misery they enable in their plan, how shit of a friend they are to Noelle. Like, Kris earned this, fuck em.
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Firko Sahanoha
Firko Sahanoha@sahanoha·
@fffanii39 I love how you actually have to make an effort to destroy his bread this time lol
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重音fan
重音fan@fffanii39·
// minor deltarune spoilers why is no one talking about the german npc who goes "YIPPEE"
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@rainnypea @KILLER_OUTLET @Igny220088 Catti is being a petty bum, Noelle doesn’t owe her comfort for being an asshole to someone she likes deeply. If she dislikes Susie cause of the old bully stuff, it would be fair, but she just hates Susie is actually a good person that inspires Noelle into love. She’s a dickhead.
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rainy ( ⭑•̀ᴗ•́ )✧
rainy ( ⭑•̀ᴗ•́ )✧@rainnypea·
@KILLER_OUTLET @Igny220088 i felt so bad for her isn’t Catti Noelle’s best friend? She starts crying breaking down and ran away, all Noelle said was “Welp hope the rest of the festival wouldn’t be like this! Awkward !!” bro go chase after her idk man be there for your friend or defend her a little
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🌸Tour🌼
🌸Tour🌼@KILLER_OUTLET·
// minor deltarune spoilers What the fuck does that mean Kobe bryant
🌸Tour🌼 tweet media🌸Tour🌼 tweet media🌸Tour🌼 tweet media🌸Tour🌼 tweet media
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@psycogenicFugue Yeah, the Japanese and anime aesthetics of Asgore’s dark world don’t really make sense with the way his shop looks and how little it plays into the Lightner psychology. There’s little cohesion between his home and the dark world, and it doesn’t speak to his complexes or Kris’s.
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psychogenicFugue
psychogenicFugue@psycogenicFugue·
I find it amusing that Toby clearly is a gigantic fucking anime nerd but his influences/references to anime in his work largely amount to the kind of very surface level stuff you'd see in an American cartoon from the mid-2010s
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@Topunito How would chapters 6 or 7 solve the lack of focus on Asgore's psychology and let him actualise in the real world in slow but solid ways. Or how we don't actually see much of the festival. Or how little the Japan aesthetic ties into the minds of Asgore or Kris in that dark world.
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topu
topu@Topunito·
most of what i really dislike about chapter 5 can be solved or at least forgiven if chapters 6 and 7 are basically written flawlessly. like genuinely my biggest issue with chapter 5 is that it's the fifth chapter
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Orko the deity
Orko the deity@OrkoDeity·
@almguav We gotta brainstorm their ship name.. let's see.. Dancing Bullets, Southern Ballet, Whimsical West, that's all I got so far
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@NGreentail excluding the Snowgrave route, we get the Roaring explained, we get more insight in the less focused Noelle and Kris history and the existence of Dess, the instructions of the creation of Dark Fountains and first instance of DT mentioned, and Spamton being Kris’ best parallel.
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@NGreentail Whenever people bring up the fact it’s supposed to be the last fun chapter, I can’t help but recall how Chapter 2 was also hella funny, but still had full substance with its spotlighted characters, Berdly, Noelle, Queen, Spamton, Susie, even Ralsei, and quality story progression.
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Nifast🍀Greentail
Nifast🍀Greentail@NGreentail·
I think it's fair to criticise the lack of much main narrative progression in Chapter 5 and I don't like that everyone arguing that is immediately shut down as people who only care about lore because it's the first time a chapter received some notable pushback
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@Oop09078559 @NGreentail Nah, it had character growth. Ralsei, Susie and Noelle, with the Flowers being a good funny assortment of antagonists. The issue is how they waste developing Asgore’s psychology and getting him to do anything, or developing Kris’s view on their dad with the fountain they made.
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Oop@Oop09078559·
@NGreentail It just felt very very fan game? Like the story was very half baked and no character growth really
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Egbert Milton
Egbert Milton@Egger438·
@glubo11 No, you just have awful taste and clearly need glasses. They couldn’t even do Mew Mew better than the Undertale version, she’s so limp here. A combo Lightner and Darkner, but there’s barely any substance to develop with it, with how little screen time she has.
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