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The Bloody Handed

@Wailing_Doom

Georgia, USA انضم Ekim 2019
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The Bloody Handed@Wailing_Doom·
"There's lots to be amazed by and explore in this life. I'll be blown away by some sort of artistic image. And I'll think 'I want to do a version of that.' But for me. Just for me. Just be true to yourself. Explore what's buried in your head." Rest in peace, John Blanche.
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@GortKerensky @Aeldarellie "It's about humanity rising against the darkness and having hope in an age of horror" IT'S A WARGAME SETTING BRO JUST ROLL YOUR DICE. THERE IS ONLY ETERNAL CARNAGE AND SLAUGHTER
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Gort.@GortKerensky·
@Aeldarellie The constant usage of the civilized world classification is a cope for those who want their cake and eat it too. They forget that it is the players who are the laughing gods who send morbillions of plastic army men to their deaths, because they don't hobby, just read brochures.
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The Bloody Handed@Wailing_Doom·
@shas_kais @Chainsword40k You're forgetting something, Kais: These guys are normies who hate grimdark with every fiber of their being, but will claim otherwise.
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Shas'la Kais
Shas'la Kais@shas_kais·
Here are the facts. According to the core rulebooks for more than 20 years, Imperial civilized worlds are not pleasant places to be. We have dozens of statements by now that state that the vast majority of mankind live short, painful lives and grind under the uncaring rulers of humanity. This is cannot be disputed. The line is everywhere. This is presented as the default mode across the Imperium. While there exist decent worlds out there in the Imperium, it's a large realm after all, this not presented as something common. The ever-increasing demand for the Imperial tithe puts many Imperial worlds in a state that could be described as "managed collapse" in which the populations are worked to death, and the planets are slowly drained of their worth until they are husks. Previously, some BL novels presented life in the Imperium in a lighter manner, which conjured the illusion that life in the Imperium isn't so bad in the minds of some fans. GW is correcting that. There is a mandate by GW to up the grimdark of Warhammer 40K in every aspect. It led to Chris Wraight going overzealous and painting a horrid picture of Agriworlds.
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Chainsword@Chainsword40k·
Too many people don’t realize that not every planet in the Imperium is a hellhole hive world. Civilized worlds make up the majority of Imperial planets; they tend to have a decent standard of living and are relatively normal, just with 40K elements incorporated into them, things like symbols, architecture, etc. We see the horrible worlds more often because they make for a more interesting backdrop for stories. However, there are plenty of examples in novels that show more ordinary sides of the Imperium. The issue is that subtle grimdark doesn’t land for some people, so they default to grimderp, where everything in the Imperium is as brutal and miserable as possible. Usually, those same people also assume the Tau are universally good because their grimdark isn’t delivered like a hammer to the face.
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The Bloody Handed@Wailing_Doom·
@RagnaMarkndRoll @_Jyggalag_ -something "important" along the lines of "metaplot" series, but he isn't interested in that either, so it's fine. Guy just wants to write horror/horror-adjacent novels that feel in-line with codices. Then you have Guy Haley. Euuuuughhhh...
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The Bloody Handed@Wailing_Doom·
@RagnaMarkndRoll @_Jyggalag_ I never said I disliked Abnett, but certain authors capture the high concept elements of the setting better than some who compromise those elements for the sake of telling a feel-good action story. And those authors get sidelined. Peter Fehervari will never be allowed near- (1/2)
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The Bloody Handed@Wailing_Doom·
@RagnaMarkndRoll @_Jyggalag_ Mass appeal in the sense that a majority of Abnett's writing is designed to appeal to the maximum amount of people possible. It's safe. It's why everyone likes his writing. Abnett doesn't take the same risks Peter Fehervari, Andy Chambers, Ian Watson, etc take. It's that's fine.
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The Bloody Handed@Wailing_Doom·
@RagnaMarkndRoll @_Jyggalag_ Yeah, I agree with that. Urban Conquest is a blatant attempt to justify having hive terrain in every game, the "almost every world has at least one hive cluster" line just has the (possibly unintentional) effect of slapping the fandom upside the head and going "no, it's all shit"
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Oscar lives rent free@RagnaMarkndRoll·
@Wailing_Doom @_Jyggalag_ yeah but they could be shit and miserable in fun and interesting ways, which is my entire point. Everything HIVES, is boring. If you honestly think I havent read everything created for this setting, most of it actually as it was released, Idk what to tell you brother
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The Bloody Handed@Wailing_Doom·
@RagnaMarkndRoll @_Jyggalag_ The majority of worlds are shit for the majority of humanity. Exceptions have always existed. >obi wan closeau Glup shitto from the 1e rulebook who was never relevant and given undue emphasis by this fandom (like most characters). If you read the thing, you'll understand that.
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The Bloody Handed@Wailing_Doom·
@RagnaMarkndRoll @_Jyggalag_ - SOMETIMES capture that, but there's a reason why huge swathes of the BL is sometimes dismissed as being drivel. Not that I'm accusing Abnett of that (he's consistently good), but his early works can feel a bit "dumbed down" or sanitized compared to his later works. Generic.
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The Bloody Handed@Wailing_Doom·
@RagnaMarkndRoll @_Jyggalag_ - there's only a few BL authors who actually capture the same vibes that the sourcebooks do. Ian Watson did that consistently (yes, he's weird, that's part of the appeal) and Peter Fehervari does that today while pushing the envelope. Dan Abnett, Chris Wraight, and others - (3/4)
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The Bloody Handed@Wailing_Doom·
@RagnaMarkndRoll @_Jyggalag_ There's also the fact that the Eisenhorn series is early Abnett 40k, which despite establishing a few detail elements in 40k that have remained since, (Gaunt's Ghosts invented the term "vox"), weren't quite 40k novels. They were more standard action sci-fi with 40k as dressing.
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The Bloody Handed@Wailing_Doom·
@RagnaMarkndRoll @_Jyggalag_ same book btw >but Eisenhorn! Eisenhorn is an Inquisitor. When he's out dining and socializing on Gudrun, for instance, he's only really dealing with the cream of the crop, the upper crust of the planet, on a world that may not have any hives. An unusual man on an unusual world
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The Bloody Handed@Wailing_Doom·
@Dante45p >normiecore people who don't actually like dark fantasy beyond the aesthetic try and poison something metal and dark from within and turn it into HFY slop >also act extremely annoying in the process >community tells them to fuck off, gatekeeps them >BAWWWWWing begins lmfao
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The Bloody Handed@Wailing_Doom·
@Saren_217 @SeverusDiomedes The Inquisition, and the Imperium itself is not composed of rational, hyperlogical actors. They're all too human. There are SEVERAL horrendous, horrible, nonsensical, utterly irrational things people have done for absolutely no good reason at all IRL. Real life is "grimderp."
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Citizen V
Citizen V@Saren_217·
@Wailing_Doom @SeverusDiomedes Yeah if they see shit if they're not allowed to see like chaos, but seeing Grey Knights not them fighting Daemons just Grey Knights is fucking stupid IN universe, this is the same universe where people mistook Necrons for Silver Skulls, there is no risk if someone sees them.
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The Bloody Handed@Wailing_Doom·
"I was frightened of everything when I was a kid. Nothing was explained. So I was frightened of stuff. Thunderstorms. Skulls. Skeletons. Scary stuff. Later on, I'd draw a lot of that stuff. I'd draw skulls everywhere! Really put the fear into me!"
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