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@SeminoleScout7 @thebenfromMI @squiglybigly69 @BeshearStan the fact that the republican maps just cut the biggest cities into pieces to dissolve their populations into republican districts just means that the Red way of gerrymandering looks nicer while having the same result

@thebenfromMI @squiglybigly69 @BeshearStan Lol yeah. That's retarded. Anybody who lives in Illinois knows that far more than 5 seats are gerrymandered. As far as gerrymandering goes in general, Texas will be the only conservative state with an insane looking map.

Now that the worst has come and Section 2 of the VRA is gutted, Dem trifectas in safe blue states need to start fighting back and push these maps immediately

@liliceberg1of1 @Hypermav77 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias Both sides have done this literally forever it’s besides the point. Let’s just switch to a parliamentary system they’re better anyway

@ndeutsch23 @Hypermav77 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias New York made Texas do it

Today's VRA decision is intellectually dishonest and wrong. The conservatives basically said: Black people can vote for their preferred candidates, as long as they prefer the right candidates -- which will be Republicans. An absolutely mockery of the law and stain on the court.

@liliceberg1of1 @Hypermav77 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias Texas made Virginia do it

@ndeutsch23 @Hypermav77 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias Virginia made em do it

@Hypermav77 @liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias I’m sure you feel very righteous about your side of the fence. Remind me why Florida wants to change its map so that 57% of the voters get 85% of the seats? And Tennessee and Missouri and Ohio and North Carolina?

@ndeutsch23 @liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias Blue states with ZERO Republican House seats: Massachusetts Rhode Island Vermont New Hampshire Hawaii New Mexico Connecticut Delaware

@PfPopulist @CameronCorduroy @CenTexLib Why should 100,000 hicks get two districts and 1 million urbanites get one? Because they live closer together?

@CameronCorduroy @CenTexLib Good question, why do you Libs want to split Madison and Milwaukee in Wisconsin's maps

hey man quick question, how come every major city is located right on the corners of these districts?

@Hypermav77 @liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias I live in the Northeast with a Republican House Rep. Republicans control the entire federal government. Feel free to pass a nationwide gerrymandering ban any time you feel like.

@ndeutsch23 @liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias Have you looked at the northeast states. Do you think the GOP (which there are many that live there) have any representation at all? No they don't. Always hypocrites on the left.

@Hypermav77 @liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias Dissolving a majority black district into several majority white districts is perpetuating race based political power, just for white people now, who already hold a majority of the power.

@ndeutsch23 @liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias There is no logic behind the color of skin making a voting district except for folks that want to perpetuate the race industry and political power.

@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias The maps might look nicer, but the intended result is to lower the proportion of black representatives in a ~33% black state from 1/3 to 1/6. I suppose we just have a fundamental disagreement on what fairness is

@ndeutsch23 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias They will draw maps that don’t take race into consideration. You can’t possibly look at Louisiana’s current map next to a proposed map and say the current one looks more fair

@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias The only way this logic holds is if you pretend that southern states are going to draw maps that actually ignore race, but they won’t, because they never do. They will draw maps explicitly to diminish the voting power of black people.

@ndeutsch23 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias The issue being that the government isn’t allowed to use race as a tool to classify individuals, as established in the interpretation of the 14th amendments equal protection clause

@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias And in fact, given that your reasoning is that they’ll still be able to vote, why do you care about gerrymandering at all? The white people in those states who are being discriminated against still get to vote as things stand, so what’s the issue?

@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias I honestly want to believe you’re someone who is well meaning but idk how to explain to you that redrawing the maps to replace black politicians with white one is discrimination. It’s just the kind you’re fine with because it doesn’t affect you

@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias Outside of all the obvious ways in which black people, on average, have worse access to economic resources and are treated worse on personal levels, YOU WANT TO MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO HAVE REPRESENTATION IN HIGHER OFFICE.

@ndeutsch23 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias How are they treated differently than other citizens, outside of having special racially gerrymandered districts for themselves

@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias Because we live in the real world and they aren’t treated like any other citizen. and your desired result doesn’t treat them like any other citizen. It treats them like people who need to be denied higher office because they’re not on your team.

@ndeutsch23 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias Why do black people have a right to their own racially gerrymandered districts? Why can’t they be treated like any other citizen?

@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias In a way so that black people cannot get representation, yes. Are you ignoring this fact because it makes you feel bad or because you don’t actually care?

@ndeutsch23 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias They’re going to explicitly split up the unconstitutional racial gerrymanders because they’re unconstitutional

@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias Well that aren’t going to do that. They are going to explicitly split up black voting populations so that more white conservatives get into higher office. You don’t have to pretend like you don’t prefer that outcome anyway by hiding behind your 1990’s race blindness

@ndeutsch23 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias The only reason there are black majority districts is because they unconstitutionally gerrymandered their maps to do so. To revert this, we must not consider racial demographics when drawing maps.

@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias I’m glad that you’ve evolved past the rest of us, but that’s not how this works. If you redraw the maps TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO BLACK REPRESENTATION IN CONGRESS you are thinking about race when you are drawing the maps

@ndeutsch23 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias I don’t think the racial makeup of a proposed district should be considered at all!

@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias Gerrymandering is not performed nation wide, it’s performed state wide. You’re mad that the 40% of black people in certain states aren’t allowed to be segmented into 10 different districts to ensure conservative whites have all the power, because it doesn’t help your side win

@Aquaflare387 @ndeutsch23 @Hypermav77 @marceelias I hope you know you sound ridiculous. Our country is only ~60% white and whites are pretty much split down the middle on right/left. You’re mad because you can’t racially gerrymandering for the 13% who votes 90% democrat, because it helps your side win

@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias If you redraw the map with the explicit purpose of eliminating black representation from higher office how is that race neutral?

@ndeutsch23 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias It’s not a pro white gerrymander, but why are pro white gerrymanders a problem but pro black gerrymanders aren’t?

@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias Repealing the VRA still leads to racial gerrymanders, just ones where a state with a 40% black population has no black representation because the districts are drawn to make that untenable. It’s a pro white racial gerrymanders now

@Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias Why do you think it’s an untenable position? Why do you think racial gerrymanders are constitutional?

@tab0824 @BeneRomi @x_deeps @ShamsCharania “good,” they didn’t even make the playoffs

@BeneRomi @x_deeps @ShamsCharania Exactly...the Hornetx got a good coach and all of a sudden they are good again

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