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Matt Cloud

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انضم Ekim 2009
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Matt Cloud
Matt Cloud@realmattcloud·
@stevearkwright @futurama_nerd @dnieporent @AnthonyMKreis It truly is a wonder of modern living to project today's dream of a borderless world back onto and upon feudal times, which was defined by competing fiefdoms and tribes and kingdoms at virtually perpetual war with one another.
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Steve Arkwright
Steve Arkwright@stevearkwright·
@realmattcloud @futurama_nerd @dnieporent @AnthonyMKreis It means no such thing. No formal pledge for the general population existed. Presence on English soil made one instantly a subject of the King (thus loyalty and obedience were required/expected). It’s very simple — as was the way back then. A “Catch-all”, in modern parlance.
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Anthony Michael Kreis, FRHistS
Anthony Michael Kreis, FRHistS@AnthonyMKreis·
In 1608, a judge in Calvin's Case described anyone born in England as having a "bond of faith and obedience" to the King. It was never about the parents. And it was never about anything really other than place, contrary to Wurman and Barnett. I'll beat this drum until June.
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Pincher Martin
Pincher Martin@PincherMartin8·
@realmattcloud Did I say it happened? Do you interpret "genuine effort" with "successful effort"?
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Matt Cloud@realmattcloud·
If you're disappointed in Nixon having failed to actually get tough on crime, it might help to know that he had been encouraged to crack down by the very liberals who were responsible for Watergate so that he would be even more resented by the young kids and the hippies.
Pincher Martin@PincherMartin8

@realmattcloud Who cares? Tell us, dear Matt, how George H. W. Bush did Kennedy in. That's the burning question of the hour.

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Matt Cloud@realmattcloud·
@PincherMartin8 Meanwhile, a reminder that you are a complete know-nothing tool.
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Pincher Martin
Pincher Martin@PincherMartin8·
@realmattcloud You don't know the playbook, Matt. You're a spectator who thinks he's an insider.
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Matt Cloud
Matt Cloud@realmattcloud·
@PincherMartin8 Weren't you complaining an hour ago that there was a slim chance to reverse the Great Society in the early 80s but that was it? x.com/PincherMartin8…
Pincher Martin@PincherMartin8

@realmattcloud I think the early Reagan years saw a genuine movement to try and repeal parts of the Great Society, but it was hampered by a Congress which didn't want to revisit those policies and by a president whose executive vigor didn't match his ideological fervor.

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Pincher Martin
Pincher Martin@PincherMartin8·
@realmattcloud And you just proved that in this case of "law and order" by not proving it. In other words, your ideology that liberals run the world is based on ... nothing.
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Pincher Martin
Pincher Martin@PincherMartin8·
@realmattcloud What has this got to do with Nixon 1) understanding that crime was a growing problem, 2) running in 1968 on the promise to fix that problem, and 3) trying to do something about the problem once in office? Where in that sequence do liberals matter?
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Matt Cloud
Matt Cloud@realmattcloud·
@PincherMartin8 This is an entirely mainstream conception, you can be comforted in knowing. No conspiracy theory here.
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Matt Cloud
Matt Cloud@realmattcloud·
Those not young enough to know of him from the Hiss-Chambers days, that is. Or you could just say none of that makes any sense. x.com/realmattcloud/…
Matt Cloud@realmattcloud

@PincherMartin8 1/ Your point is valid but does not go far enough, and does not account for the hatred by the youth in the late 1960s and early 1970s of Nixon, who had not been around for the pumpkin papers, and it was that hatred that was used -- so I contend -- in jujitsu-like fashion to

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Pincher Martin
Pincher Martin@PincherMartin8·
@realmattcloud @realBobWoodward LOL! Dear Mattie, you once were an important person that other important people cared about enough to write letters for. Now you're just a nutball. When the fall comes, it comes hard.
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Matt Cloud
Matt Cloud@realmattcloud·
@PincherMartin8 First things first. So the answer by you is no? You don't know about Kay Graham and Moynihan and the heroin problem being the ostensible reason behind Liddy, Hunt and The Plumbers. Gotcha. That's important to know. x.com/realmattcloud/… (I love the synchronicity of the date.)
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@books_rum Hey -- easy there -- that was the liberals' idea. He did that at the urging of Kay Graham and The Washington Post.

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Pincher Martin
Pincher Martin@PincherMartin8·
@realmattcloud Who cares? Tell us, dear Matt, how George H. W. Bush did Kennedy in. That's the burning question of the hour.
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Pincher Martin
Pincher Martin@PincherMartin8·
Nixon didn't crush crime, though. Violent crime was higher in 1974, the year Nixon left office, than it was in 1968, when he was first elected. That includes homicides, robberies, aggravated assaults, and forcible rapes. All of those categories were way up during Nixon's presidency. Of course the swing upwards in crime began before Nixon ran for president and he did run on "law and order" in both 1968 and 1972, but he was not effective at curbing it once in office.
JustReadingXeno@JustReadingXeno

@PincherMartin8 It's because he crushed crime. Liberals combine "We're smart academics!" with "We're the voice of the mob!". If they can't baffle you with bullshit, they bully you with criminal masses. Then Nixon ran on Law & Order in '72, and won the 3rd biggest landslide in US history.

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Pincher Martin
Pincher Martin@PincherMartin8·
I have not mischaracterized your posts. You're just a bad writer. And that comes down to being a poor thinker. You certainly are not "tight and specific." You don't understand the implications of your own words. This is probably why you misread "defensiveness" into my first comments and why you're inclined to the conspiratorial in your political thinking. This was your very first sentence to me tonight. Look at it. Study it. Understand the mistaken implications a reader would take from it based on how you presented it: "Here's the kicker, the genius behind Watergate: getting the Left to hate Nixon ensures that Nixon's liberal policies are protected from being dismantled from the Right for a generation." Whose genius and why is it "behind" Watergate? Do you mean a controlling influence? Whose? Who got the left to hate Nixon? I assume the same controlling influence that is the "genius" behind Watergate, but since you never named it, how can I or anyone else tell? And since the Left hated Nixon long before Watergate, the chronology here is all fucked up anyway. And how is that related to ensuring Nixon's liberal policies are protected from being dismantled by the right for a generation? Forget the bad history. Just look at the bad writing. The lack of clear subjects with verbs to match them. The huge jumps in logic. You want to blame others for their misunderstandings of your writing when you should be blaming yourself.
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Matt Cloud
Matt Cloud@realmattcloud·
@PincherMartin8 What of Kay Graham's request in 1969 that Nixon garrison DC in light of the heroin problem? Are you familiar with this?
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Matt Cloud
Matt Cloud@realmattcloud·
@PincherMartin8 2/ entirely cogently to you. You have not followed and worse, have, to repeat, mischaracterized my thesis repeatedly. This has been fruitful only to the extent I have discovered I have exceeded your capabilities. Thank you. I am sorry for bothering you.
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Matt Cloud@realmattcloud·
@PincherMartin8 1/ You've mischaracterized virtually every sentence I've made to you here tonight. I was happy to keep things tight and specific. Discussing the ways Watergate preserves Nixon's legacy, in an ironic, counterintuitive way, is a topic that I am exploring. I have defended it
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