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انضم Aralık 2021
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Cleriths have been screaming "lt's optional!" for 27 years to cope with Cloud spending the night with Tifa under the highwind. Now they will be screaming "It's optional!" for another 27 years to cope with the fact that Cloud kissed Tifa. We've come full circle.
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you won’t believe this 😭 so I bought a new laptop today did the whole setup uninstalled Microsoft Edge now I have… no browser how do you install a browser without a browser....am I cooked? 😭
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StygianSis 👠 Cloud Kissed Tifa 💋
The standard for CT fandom and the ship versus the CA fandom and ship is the same; the bar is in the stratosphere for CT while the bar is in hell for CA. Cloud and Tifa can literally kiss on camera and ppl will still argue about it's on camera but A gets a handhold and some ppl will claim it's canon based on something that could be an episode out of Barney. Unbelievable.
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@Respect_YGO Blue Eyes Ultimate Chaos MAX Dragon. You can ritual summon this card by screwing the rules. If this card attacks a defense position monster, inflict emotional damage to your opponent by reducing their bank account to 0.
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One final overframe left for Blue-Eyes!
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SS7@solidstructure7·
@thereasonablecl @Eleacheee By the time Cloud spends the night with Tifa under the highwind, they should be >closer< than they were at any point during Rebirth, including when they kissed... And y'all want Clotis to believe Cloud stared at rocks all night while Tifa throws herself at him.
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@thereasonablecl @Eleacheee Their relationship will always improve to the point where Cloud will hold hands with her by the ending. If you do enough side quests with Tifa, Cloud will kiss Tifa at the gold saucer. The Lifestream scene will bring Cloud and Tifa together closer than any quest in Rebirth could
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TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
This is the most disingenuous thing I've seen in a long time. There is no canon. The devs have purposefully NEVER stipulated a canon. They have always, without fail, refused to answer any direct questions on the topic. Let's start at the beginning, shall we? How does one establish canon? 1. Canon confirmation via devs 2. Canon confirmation via sequels 3. Canon confirmation via supplementary materials 4. Canon confirmation through necessity As stated previously, the devs have never openly stated that there is a Canon. Sequel-wise Advent Children was very careful not to wipe out either of the two ships. Allowing for both the tragic romance and the taking solace with Tifa angles. There is nothing to suggest C&T are a romantic couple. Likewise with DoC. Tifa is still referred to as a friend and Cloud is still shown to be in mourning in the cover art. To be clear, there is nothing stopping CT at this point, yet nothing shows this coupling is the case. So in terms of sequels, there is no romantic confirmation. No romantic canon. Supplementary materials SET IN THE PAST do build the CT/ZA pairings. But the point is, this is all meaningless as WHATEVER has happened in the past is superceded by the main games. Again, supplementary materials such as Case of Tifa/Lifestream White do nothing to dictate a Canon pairing. Tifa's interest in Cloud is matched by Aerith's love for him, but they do not resolve where Cloud's feelings lie. We have games like Tactics and Dissidia and KH which drop in Easter eggs, but ultimately again, nothing with authority dictates a resolution. Finally we have canonicity through necessity. Aerith is dead, so Tifa's Canon? This fundamentally misses the point. Many Cleriths advocate a tragic romance - with Cloud constantly searching for her across IP. We also have a situation now with Rebirth, where death is no longer a barrier to communication. It's not as final as it used to be. So what are we left with? The games themselves. When looking at Rebirth/Remake, both heroines are divided equally and there is a significant player choice element. For the author to declare that one is headcanon and one is true Canon is objectively incorrect, as up to the end of Rebirth, romance is largely player choice. At the end of Rebirth, the player is given a HA/LA sequence in the Church, but still has to see what appears to be reciprocal Clerith handholding. So even looking at the game itself up to this point, there is no romantic Canon, or if there is, it's probably not CT. Canon is a specific thing. It's obtained via very specific means. Nothing we have seen or heard has directly gone against a thirty year tradition of keeping the romance open to interpretation. Therefore, your article is ignorant and serves only to bully those with perfectly valid views. These people should not be made to feel weird or outliers because they have followed a beautiful path curated by some of the most skilled developers in the business. You good sir, can fuck right off.
𝚕𝚘𝚟𝚎 𝚋𝚛𝚘𝚞𝚐𝚑𝚝 𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚘 𝚕𝚒𝚐𝚑𝚝 -`♡´-@nitezintodreamz

Listen, when I was in high school/much younger, I "shipped" Sephiroth with Aerith. I didn't know it was called shipping back then but that's what it was. Obviously, I knew this was not canonical (didn't use that word either back then). I knew it did not fit within the bounds of the story for obvious reasons. But that did not stop me from enjoying fanfics and fanart of the dynamic. At this stage in my life, I really don't care for such a pairing but I understand why people might ship it, or other "fanon" pairings within FFVII or any other media. I have absolutely no problem with people shipping any characters for that kind of fun and enjoyment. If there is a fanon ship that bothers me for whatever reason, I simply mute anything to do with it. Before social media, I would just avoid that pairing on the internet. The problem that I have is how many of you are just here to lie and twist the story to fit what you seem to have deluded yourselves into believing it to be. You might have gotten away with some level of that behavior in decades past because of large gaps in understanding, lack of availabilty of English reference materials, and room for ambiguity (low tech, storybook text formats, interpretive statements, lack of clearly defined physical intimacy or direct statements typical in western usages) but in the last 15 years and especially the last 5-10, things in FFVII related media have become incredibly clear and direct. This includes very deliberate efforts by the developers to address certain misconceptions in a clearly targeted way. And instead of simply adjusting your understanding while also accepting that it's okay to ship a pairing that is not canonical to the source material, you have resorted to lying, fabricating, harassing, and just being cancerous cells within the FFVII community. If there are any Clerith shippers out there who genuinely want to ship that pairing for fun, creativity, or personal enjoyment, I truly have no issue with that. Fan spaces have always thrived on imagination. What I will not respect, however, is the deliberate distortion of the source material, the fabrication of quotes or “translations,” and the harassment of others simply because they acknowledge what the story itself actually shows. At some point, that side of the fandom needs to get its house in order. The majority of your engagement thrives on disrespecting the source material and vilifying the people who actually enjoy the story as it is written. That behavior poisons all of the discourse and drags the entire community down with it. Shipping is fandom. Canon is what is written in the text, source material, or official media. Those two things can coexist perfectly well as long as people are honest about which one they’re engaging in and how they are treating others concerning it. Let me be clear that the wider FFVII fandom – Clotis, Zeriths, non-shippers, other fanon shippers, casuals, ANYONE who engages with FFVII at any level – is not obligated to tolerate lies, bad-faith arguments, fabricated “evidence,” or harassment simply because some people refuse to separate their headcanon from the actual text of the story. If you really love FFVII you can accept the true story while still enjoying your headcanons and fanon fantasies. But if you cannot reconcile the difference without resorting to self-delusion, gaslighting, and vitriol, you need to move on.

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SS7@solidstructure7·
@thereasonablecl @Eleacheee Cloud was caught staring at Tifa while she admired the fireworks. He brings up Aerith to change the subject. He brings up Aerith's feelings to explain why Tifa might have a hard time approaching the topic with Aerith.
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@Eleacheee @thereasonablecl You do not get to decide which girl Cloud likes more in OG. Cloud would kiss Tifa on the mouth in Rebirth, but not Aerith. No amount of mental gymnastics is gonna make holding hands more romantic than a kiss.
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SS7@solidstructure7·
@thereasonablecl @Eleacheee There's no option to kiss Aerith at all. The dates show us what Cloud would do with different people. Cloud is in character on >>all his dates<<.
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TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
@solidstructure7 @Eleacheee Which is a) An optional date b) Separate from the plot c) Completely out of character for Cloud Remember now, we're talking about what is CANON. This is not.
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@Eleacheee @thereasonablecl Here is Tifa asking if she is getting ahead of herself for thinking this way (that she and Cloud are now closer than they have ever been before). And Cloud tells her not one bit. Then he pulls her into a hug and kisses her.
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SS7@solidstructure7·
@Eleacheee @thereasonablecl LMAO. Haadcanon? It's literally what happens. Here is Tifa saying that ever since they've gone on this journey, or even when they were kids, she cant remember a time when they have ever been this close.
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@atrocityTCG I like Chaos Max. My opponent cant prevent my chaos max summon on turn 3 if they dont get a turn to set up a board.
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@atrocityTCG This is Blue Eyes ritual support.
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@thereasonablecl @Eleacheee Just think about it. They had their own rooms on the highwind. They could have gone back to their own rooms. They didnt. Instead, Cloud chose to stay with Tifa the entire night. At the bare minimum, they cuddled and feel asleep together (This happens in both HA and LA).
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TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
@solidstructure7 @Eleacheee No you aren't. In the LA scene, Tifa simply sleeps on Cloud's shoulder. It's exactly the same pose as on the LA Clerith date. If they are both romantic, why on earth have the LA in the first place? This was at a time when the dev was incredibly pressured. Why make that choice
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SS7@solidstructure7·
@thereasonablecl Cloud didnt kiss Tifa because he thinks Aerith had feelings for Zack. He kissed her because he liked her. Tifa asked if she was getting ahead of herself for thinking they've grown closer than ever before, and Cloud took the hint.
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TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
That optional kiss scene you refer to occurs AFTER Cloud comes to the conclusion that Aerith must still have feelings for Zack. It's also not referenced in Cloud's date page in the Ultimania. The kiss isn't referenced, full-stop. Both HA scenes are romantic. Both optional. That doesn't remove choice or weaken my point. In fact the devs specifically say it's slightly removed from the plot. The LA HW scene reflects a close platonic bond. The HA HW reflects something more. Big difference, player led. Therefore, none of what you have said corrects or changes my assertion. There is no canon.
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@thereasonablecl This is how Advent Children ends: "He sees Tifa, Marlene, and with hands outstretched waiting to be cured was Denzel - his family was waiting. Surrounded by bliss, he knows this is where he is meant to live. He knows he has forgiven himself".
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@thereasonablecl REBIRTH had Cloud >>kissing Tifa on the mouth<< and Cleriths still be trying to convince us a scene of Cloud and Tifa spending the night together described in a section of the ultimania named >>for the person you love<< is not supposed to be romantic.
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