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TheReasonableClerith

@thereasonablecl

Director at a multinational video games publisher. I like making little videos about Aerith and Cloud. Split time between London, Tokyo and... the Philippines?

London, England Katılım Şubat 2026
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TheReasonableClerith
TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
I don’t think people realise what they’re doing when they say the Buster Sword represents Zack. The Buster Sword is one of the most iconic pieces of game design ever created. It’s both the first and last thing a player of the OG sees. For many players, it’s shorthand for the incredible experiences they had with FF7 growing up, a symbol tied to some of their most memorable moments in gaming. It’s intrinsically attached to the FF7 brand. Arguably even more so than the meteor in the logo itself. Specifically, it's a symbol of Cloud, the protagonist taking you on this beautiful journey. Zack is an important part of the story. He’s the missing link for Cloud, a key motivator and the person who saved his life. He starts Cloud’s journey. He’s also a great addition to the series: a ray of sunshine in an otherwise bleak world. He’s an important part of Cloud’s character. But having a character who played only a small role in the original FF7 (largely due to development constraints) subsume so many of these symbolic elements risks undermining what made those moments special. It slowly detaches long-time fans, the people who have been there since the beginning, from some of their core memories of the game. Yes, supplementary material expanded Zack’s role. But we shouldn’t pretend those works reached the same audience. The novels, and even Advent Children, were experienced by only a fraction of the players who played the mainline game. For many fans, Zack represents the era where the Compilation wasn’t firing on all cylinders. A period where some creative missteps were made, especially when compared to the Remake titles. If we start attributing core imagery and symbolism to characters other than the protagonist people originally connected with, it risks undermining the very foundation that made all that supplemental material possible. The Buster Sword was owned by Zack. Before Zack, Angeal. But it has always been and will always be, the symbol of Cloud and his journey. Anything else feels disingenuous to those who remember the magic of the original: when Square were creating legendary IP that helped define a console generation. That's why the flower and sword, may evoke memories of Zack, or signify a journey, or even represent a fragmented mind - but ultimately, those two objects represent two of the OG's most enduring characters. Cloud and Aerith. *Beautiful image by NCCRYPT - purchase here redbubble.com/people/nccrypt
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TheReasonableClerith
TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
@zzjyes Typical CT behaviour. Just cruel and against the very makers and key players of the game.
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Mike Kennedy@MikeKennedyNFL·
@aerithsclouds You might enjoy this one as well
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TheReasonableClerith
TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
@Cloudonachocobo Because if the VA doesn't like it and states she doesn't like it, perhaps we should pretend to be human beings and respect her wishes?
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Noel is on Expedition 33
Noel is on Expedition 33@Cloudonachocobo·
I saw nobody ship the VAs together btw. Just appreciation for them as well as the characters they play. Why turn this into dumb drama?
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TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
@SquareEnix @SQUARE_ENIX_EU Please help support your employees here. Some of these extreme "Tifa fans" have already harassed your translation staff to the point they had to leave social media - now they continue to go after VAs. Fandom is amazing. But some of these guys are genuinely crossing the line and I implore you to begin actioning that harassment policy of yours.
Briana White@ItsBrianaWhite

It just means a group of friends were having chaotic fun during our photo ops and we were happy to share the experience ❤️ Hope everyone who was at GameOnExpo had a great weekend! ✨

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🌒@dolphnblw·
@ItsBrianaWhite girl what are you doing lmaooo make a burner or something if you’re gonna be this invested, cody & britt stay off the internet for a reason
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Briana White
Briana White@ItsBrianaWhite·
It just means a group of friends were having chaotic fun during our photo ops and we were happy to share the experience ❤️ Hope everyone who was at GameOnExpo had a great weekend! ✨
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TheReasonableClerith
TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
@ItsBrianaWhite Hi Briana - I'm sorry you have to go through all of this idiocy. Please don't listen to the crazy folks. Some people just love FF7 and love your work.
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Briana White
Briana White@ItsBrianaWhite·
I love fan art, and I love people sharing excitement over VAs for their fav characters, of course! My personal ick has always been when we can't have fun and live our lives without it "meaning something more" about characters/game. We are people beyond our work too.
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TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
@GiubileiFer Canon isn't defined by history. It's defined by the present and future. How does what you've just said create canon? Besides, if he eventually gets with Tifa is irrelevant. The point is that what we see in game and in the supplemental materials, does not have a romantic canon.
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Fernando Giubilei
Fernando Giubilei@GiubileiFer·
@thereasonablecl Cope. Cloud liked both but history is what it is so his one love interest as of now is Tifa, unless you're arguing that he stays celibate until he's reunited in death with Aerith.
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TheReasonableClerith
TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
This is the most disingenuous thing I've seen in a long time. There is no canon. The devs have purposefully NEVER stipulated a canon. They have always, without fail, refused to answer any direct questions on the topic. Let's start at the beginning, shall we? How does one establish canon? 1. Canon confirmation via devs 2. Canon confirmation via sequels 3. Canon confirmation via supplementary materials 4. Canon confirmation through necessity As stated previously, the devs have never openly stated that there is a Canon. Sequel-wise Advent Children was very careful not to wipe out either of the two ships. Allowing for both the tragic romance and the taking solace with Tifa angles. There is nothing to suggest C&T are a romantic couple. Likewise with DoC. Tifa is still referred to as a friend and Cloud is still shown to be in mourning in the cover art. To be clear, there is nothing stopping CT at this point, yet nothing shows this coupling is the case. So in terms of sequels, there is no romantic confirmation. No romantic canon. Supplementary materials SET IN THE PAST do build the CT/ZA pairings. But the point is, this is all meaningless as WHATEVER has happened in the past is superceded by the main games. Again, supplementary materials such as Case of Tifa/Lifestream White do nothing to dictate a Canon pairing. Tifa's interest in Cloud is matched by Aerith's love for him, but they do not resolve where Cloud's feelings lie. We have games like Tactics and Dissidia and KH which drop in Easter eggs, but ultimately again, nothing with authority dictates a resolution. Finally we have canonicity through necessity. Aerith is dead, so Tifa's Canon? This fundamentally misses the point. Many Cleriths advocate a tragic romance - with Cloud constantly searching for her across IP. We also have a situation now with Rebirth, where death is no longer a barrier to communication. It's not as final as it used to be. So what are we left with? The games themselves. When looking at Rebirth/Remake, both heroines are divided equally and there is a significant player choice element. For the author to declare that one is headcanon and one is true Canon is objectively incorrect, as up to the end of Rebirth, romance is largely player choice. At the end of Rebirth, the player is given a HA/LA sequence in the Church, but still has to see what appears to be reciprocal Clerith handholding. So even looking at the game itself up to this point, there is no romantic Canon, or if there is, it's probably not CT. Canon is a specific thing. It's obtained via very specific means. Nothing we have seen or heard has directly gone against a thirty year tradition of keeping the romance open to interpretation. Therefore, your article is ignorant and serves only to bully those with perfectly valid views. These people should not be made to feel weird or outliers because they have followed a beautiful path curated by some of the most skilled developers in the business. You good sir, can fuck right off.
𝚕𝚘𝚟𝚎 𝚋𝚛𝚘𝚞𝚐𝚑𝚝 𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚘 𝚕𝚒𝚐𝚑𝚝 -`♡´-@nitezintodreamz

Listen, when I was in high school/much younger, I "shipped" Sephiroth with Aerith. I didn't know it was called shipping back then but that's what it was. Obviously, I knew this was not canonical (didn't use that word either back then). I knew it did not fit within the bounds of the story for obvious reasons. But that did not stop me from enjoying fanfics and fanart of the dynamic. At this stage in my life, I really don't care for such a pairing but I understand why people might ship it, or other "fanon" pairings within FFVII or any other media. I have absolutely no problem with people shipping any characters for that kind of fun and enjoyment. If there is a fanon ship that bothers me for whatever reason, I simply mute anything to do with it. Before social media, I would just avoid that pairing on the internet. The problem that I have is how many of you are just here to lie and twist the story to fit what you seem to have deluded yourselves into believing it to be. You might have gotten away with some level of that behavior in decades past because of large gaps in understanding, lack of availabilty of English reference materials, and room for ambiguity (low tech, storybook text formats, interpretive statements, lack of clearly defined physical intimacy or direct statements typical in western usages) but in the last 15 years and especially the last 5-10, things in FFVII related media have become incredibly clear and direct. This includes very deliberate efforts by the developers to address certain misconceptions in a clearly targeted way. And instead of simply adjusting your understanding while also accepting that it's okay to ship a pairing that is not canonical to the source material, you have resorted to lying, fabricating, harassing, and just being cancerous cells within the FFVII community. If there are any Clerith shippers out there who genuinely want to ship that pairing for fun, creativity, or personal enjoyment, I truly have no issue with that. Fan spaces have always thrived on imagination. What I will not respect, however, is the deliberate distortion of the source material, the fabrication of quotes or “translations,” and the harassment of others simply because they acknowledge what the story itself actually shows. At some point, that side of the fandom needs to get its house in order. The majority of your engagement thrives on disrespecting the source material and vilifying the people who actually enjoy the story as it is written. That behavior poisons all of the discourse and drags the entire community down with it. Shipping is fandom. Canon is what is written in the text, source material, or official media. Those two things can coexist perfectly well as long as people are honest about which one they’re engaging in and how they are treating others concerning it. Let me be clear that the wider FFVII fandom – Clotis, Zeriths, non-shippers, other fanon shippers, casuals, ANYONE who engages with FFVII at any level – is not obligated to tolerate lies, bad-faith arguments, fabricated “evidence,” or harassment simply because some people refuse to separate their headcanon from the actual text of the story. If you really love FFVII you can accept the true story while still enjoying your headcanons and fanon fantasies. But if you cannot reconcile the difference without resorting to self-delusion, gaslighting, and vitriol, you need to move on.

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Sadtimes 🌸@hi_imdaisy·
I'm at the Square Enix pop up and Aerith's Bring Arts figure is the most expensive one (other than cloud + his bike) i'm CRYIN
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TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
@solidstructure7 @Eleacheee So what is driving that, ultimately, is player choice. It's not canonised through the plot, the end credits or anything else on my list of criteria. It's part of many potential options and ultimately none (so far) are definitively canon.
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SS7@solidstructure7·
@thereasonablecl @Eleacheee He's in character for >all< of them. Let me explain it this way. If you do enough quests with Aerith, the Cloud will hold hands with her at the gold saucer. Even if you ignore Aerith, the events of the dream date will bring them closer together. (Cont below)
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TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
We're speaking at cross purposes, I think. What I'm saying is that due to that scene not even being seen by everyone, not all OG players will even know the backstory of Zack. People won't know all the details of Cloud being his living legacy etc. But even if they do, they will likely equate it to part of Cloud's journey, rather than simply signifying this other character they hardly know. Or Angeal. Or Angeal's father.
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SekuH
SekuH@Sekuh_Tv·
@thereasonablecl I know. Which is why my statement tracks. The scene shows that the buster sword is about legacy. The scene shows WHY the buster sword is important and gives you context to Zack.
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TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
I don’t think people realise what they’re doing when they say the Buster Sword represents Zack. The Buster Sword is one of the most iconic pieces of game design ever created. It’s both the first and last thing a player of the OG sees. For many players, it’s shorthand for the incredible experiences they had with FF7 growing up, a symbol tied to some of their most memorable moments in gaming. It’s intrinsically attached to the FF7 brand. Arguably even more so than the meteor in the logo itself. Specifically, it's a symbol of Cloud, the protagonist taking you on this beautiful journey. Zack is an important part of the story. He’s the missing link for Cloud, a key motivator and the person who saved his life. He starts Cloud’s journey. He’s also a great addition to the series: a ray of sunshine in an otherwise bleak world. He’s an important part of Cloud’s character. But having a character who played only a small role in the original FF7 (largely due to development constraints) subsume so many of these symbolic elements risks undermining what made those moments special. It slowly detaches long-time fans, the people who have been there since the beginning, from some of their core memories of the game. Yes, supplementary material expanded Zack’s role. But we shouldn’t pretend those works reached the same audience. The novels, and even Advent Children, were experienced by only a fraction of the players who played the mainline game. For many fans, Zack represents the era where the Compilation wasn’t firing on all cylinders. A period where some creative missteps were made, especially when compared to the Remake titles. If we start attributing core imagery and symbolism to characters other than the protagonist people originally connected with, it risks undermining the very foundation that made all that supplemental material possible. The Buster Sword was owned by Zack. Before Zack, Angeal. But it has always been and will always be, the symbol of Cloud and his journey. Anything else feels disingenuous to those who remember the magic of the original: when Square were creating legendary IP that helped define a console generation. That's why the flower and sword, may evoke memories of Zack, or signify a journey, or even represent a fragmented mind - but ultimately, those two objects represent two of the OG's most enduring characters. Cloud and Aerith. *Beautiful image by NCCRYPT - purchase here redbubble.com/people/nccrypt
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SekuH@Sekuh_Tv·
@thereasonablecl By that logic we wouldn't know the importance of Zack. If you don't get that cut scene all we see of Zack is losing to Sephiroth.
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TheReasonableClerith
TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
Okay, then why is there a HA/LA variant? Is he slightly less in character for one vs the other? And none of this challenges my assertion. There is no canon - especially when there are multiple options. And if there was, based on how it is covered in all major comms, the credits and all non-female dates, it would be Aerith's.
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SS7@solidstructure7·
@thereasonablecl @Eleacheee There's no option to kiss Aerith at all. The dates show us what Cloud would do with different people. Cloud is in character on >>all his dates<<.
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SS7@solidstructure7·
@Eleacheee @thereasonablecl The problem here is that you guys are just making shit up lol. Cloud doesnt kiss Tifa because he's jealous of Aerith having feelings for Zack.
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TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
@solidstructure7 @Eleacheee Which is a) An optional date b) Separate from the plot c) Completely out of character for Cloud Remember now, we're talking about what is CANON. This is not.
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SS7@solidstructure7·
@Eleacheee @thereasonablecl Here is Tifa asking if she is getting ahead of herself for thinking this way (that she and Cloud are now closer than they have ever been before). And Cloud tells her not one bit. Then he pulls her into a hug and kisses her.
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~Nana ♡ Cloud☁️
~Nana ♡ Cloud☁️@Nanayuna__·
I mean, would you do everything Cloud did, with another woman? If you preferred someone else? A genuine question😅 If you liked woman A, would you do chapter 14 with woman B? And think its ok? And its not romantic? 😆 If I was woman A I would despise you and 100% think you dont truly prefer me over woman B😉
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SS7@solidstructure7·
@Eleacheee @thereasonablecl LMAO. Haadcanon? It's literally what happens. Here is Tifa saying that ever since they've gone on this journey, or even when they were kids, she cant remember a time when they have ever been this close.
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TheReasonableClerith@thereasonablecl·
I get that. I get that seemingly no matter what, you have a situation where they still hold hands at the conclusion. But I know how non-CAs see this. And these sorts of lines do matter. I also understand how romantic threads need to be tied together, hence my theory that I have now taken down.
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Sarahita 🎀💚
Sarahita 🎀💚@SarahitaFajita·
@thereasonablecl I disagree that Cloud's response matters is what I'm trying to say, as per the reasons I've previously mentioned. The importance of the scene is what comes after. Cloud's different responses are a segue into the main point based on Cloud's understanding of Aerith's feelings
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~Nana ♡ Cloud☁️
~Nana ♡ Cloud☁️@Nanayuna__·
I see. Then we have to disagree. Sure aerith is more sad and cloud more withdrawn but end result is same. There is no changing there. To me LA is basically him not knowing she truly loves him more than Z (bc you got none of her dates) and they are both a bit sad in their reaction. But what happens/follows after changes that right away. They still flirt, he still says "wait for me" while he holds her hand to his cheek abd they look longingly into each others eyes. They still interlock hands, they cant stop staring at each other before he departs. And then the last flirting before he leaves. Are you suggesting its not romance or that they dont show mutual love?? To me they 100% do. If the LA would mean he leans towards T, then sorry you wouldn't do all these romantic things with another woman? You wouldnt entertain it, if like I asked you dont see them as romantic? To me, all I see before the ending is two people mutually showing love and longing and romance towards each other. You dont do all this is you prefer or would lean to another women. Sorry but no.
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