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Ash@theashrb·
Question… how (why) does anxiety and depression make you eligible for a motability car?
PIP Devil@ThePIPDevil

@EssexPR Absolutely it is , and anyone that says PIP isn’t abused by the masses must be insane

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Amélie | Arcade Valentine@ArcadeValentine·
@Crofter1798 Yes, as I said, that is a perspective. What is your point? You're not adding anything new to the conversation. Speak plainly. What are you really saying? Are you an advocate of abolishing the welfare state? Scaling it back? Just motability for some reason. Speak plainly.
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Amélie | Arcade Valentine
Amélie | Arcade Valentine@ArcadeValentine·
@Crofter1798 Well, so, you're not really paying attention to what I said then, I was clarifying that it's a car you lease with your PIP money. The car is not given to you to keep for free. It is a lease funded by benefits. In that sense it could be considered a free lease. I adressed this.
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Crofter@Crofter1798·
@ArcadeValentine You said in a earlier post it’s not a free car but it is
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Amélie | Arcade Valentine@ArcadeValentine·
@ashleyseaton02 @WFC_Will @theashrb Exactly. Even many genuine claimants are rejected, I think it's something like 59% of tribunals were won by the claimants based on the same facts as initially presented to DWP. I've never had to go to tribunal, but I've also never been correctly awarded before M.R.
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Amélie | Arcade Valentine@ArcadeValentine·
@WFC_Will @theashrb I think the main reason they are nice and new is insurance and liability as well as being a nice subsidy for car manufacturing industry. Personally I'd rather just save up a couple thousand and own a used car, like, higher rate mobility pays for that in like 25 weeks.
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Amélie | Arcade Valentine
Amélie | Arcade Valentine@ArcadeValentine·
@WFC_Will @theashrb Well, the nice part not so much, but the car part could help them. Being in a car as opposed to on public transport or outside in general could help a lot for agoraphobic individuals and/or individuals that get anxious mixing with other people. The niceness isn't needed though.
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Amélie | Arcade Valentine@ArcadeValentine·
@WFC_Will @theashrb In terms of the descriptors, I'm curious which ones you think are too loose? No worries if you don't feel like going through them all, I know from experience it's a lot, but I am curious. To me they seem pretty well balanced. You need to struggle with a lot of things to claim.
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Amélie | Arcade Valentine@ArcadeValentine·
@WFC_Will @theashrb Some of that seems reasonable. I personally don't think there's a lot of people claiming motability who don't genuinely benefit from it disability wise, but that also means I can't say there would be harm in making it specifically more tied to specific conditions/descriptors.
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Will@WFC_Will·
@ArcadeValentine @theashrb the basis on which you can claim motability assistance; i guess a combination of the descriptors and the assessment and the amounts - more stringent descriptors, more rigorous tests, and the help shouldnt just be being given assistance in buying a luxury car
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Amélie | Arcade Valentine
Amélie | Arcade Valentine@ArcadeValentine·
@WFC_Will @theashrb Well then let's talk about fraud. What do you define as fraud and what evidence do you have of fraud because the evidence suggests that PIP has the lowest rate of fraud of all benefits according to DWP.
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Will
Will@WFC_Will·
@ArcadeValentine @theashrb yeah my issue is with the fraud, i think we’re sort of arguing parallel points here. the issue i take is that there are people claiming to be impeded by a condition such as anxiety, when theyre not, in order to claim benefits they dont need.
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Amélie | Arcade Valentine@ArcadeValentine·
@WFC_Will @theashrb What would you change? The assesment? The descriptors? The amounts? Something else? I'm genuinely curious. I personally have a lot of changes I'd make, I imagine some different to you and some possibly the same.
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Will@WFC_Will·
@ArcadeValentine @theashrb im not someone who thinks benefits should be cut, or we shouldnt have a welfare state, but when its clear that a lot of people are just taking the system for (literally) a ride, something has to change. not to mention people with legitimate mobility issues….
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Amélie | Arcade Valentine@ArcadeValentine·
@WFC_Will @theashrb Well, it's not a free car, it's a subsidised rental of a car. It's useful to have, but so is free money from the government. If someone is fraudulently claiming PIP surely the issue is the fraud, not the choice between money and motability?
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Will@WFC_Will·
@ArcadeValentine @theashrb but thats the problem. i dont think its unreasonable to say that a lot of people are applying on the basis of having anxiety in order to get a free car. which doesnt assist with the issues they (supposedly) have with transport, it just gives then a free car.
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Amélie | Arcade Valentine@ArcadeValentine·
@WFC_Will @theashrb I can understand if someone would prefer that mobility assistance, up to and including adapted cars, was dealt with as a seperate thing, in the same way that bus passes and blue badges are, which whilst they can accept some pip descriptiors as eligibility, do not accept all.
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Amélie | Arcade Valentine@ArcadeValentine·
@WFC_Will @theashrb But, trying to think of a steel man argument, someone who meets descriptor d or f might not be able to access public transport, but would be able to be driven by their carer and thus want a car. But ultimately whether we should be awarding motability based on PIP is debatable.
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