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@DataGolf
statistics and data visualization, applied to golf.
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@JosephLaMagna fyi, Scottie isn't losing a stroke/round on approach in his last 3 events. You must have looked at cumulative/event.
Also, should really look at adjusted SG... Scottie's last 3 events were against the strongest in golf. We maintain "official" adj. stats: datagolf.com/stats/tour-lis…
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@TeeTimesPub @Jkrom11 Not trying to do a sleight of hand with comparisons, honestly.
Here's Rahm's 50-round moving average in his career. I don't think anyone think he's elevated since moving to LIV... we have him staying pretty steady.

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@TeeTimesPub @Jkrom11 Original point was that you didn't like the disconnect between SG and points. I explained why, you moved on to a new complaint.
His best seasons are around +2.5, that's what I was referring to.
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Jon Rahm would rank 7th in DG points if he’d won all four LIV events this season, even though he would have been the best player in the world in True Strokes Gained in that stretch.
Sick system they’ve cooked up.
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Updated 2026 DG Points list. Both the SG and Points (DG PoY) title are wide open as we head into major season. Scottie leads the SG race at +2.7 but 6 others are over +2.0. Bridgeman leads the points race but five players are lurking within 5 points.
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@TeeTimesPub @Jkrom11 Original tweet was that you don't like that Rahm could be 1st in true SG but 7th in points. But then you switched to saying you just don't like true SG. Rahm is currently +2.6 this year... so I guess you think he should be even higher (i.e. best golf of his career?).
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@TeeTimesPub @Jkrom11 Right. Original tweet is a little odd then, if you don't believe true SG is a useful metric for LIV.
I think the betting odds exercise is a useful one for convincing yourself that PR ~ LIV in 2026.
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@TeeTimesPub @Jkrom11 Not a good comparison, because you'll have bad players overperform in R1&R2 to make the cut (and good players who do the opposite). Best player (Hojgaard) MC'd.
Why aren't you just counting the number of top 50 players, top 100, etc, in the field. That is the relevant metric.
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@TeeTimesPub @Jkrom11 Re: Puerto Rico vs LIV, one useful exercise could be to compare the betting odds of similar players in each field. We list pre-tournament odds on past results pages.
R. Hojgaard was 12-1 to win Puerto Rico. His odds to win a LIV event would be pretty similar, I think.
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@TeeTimesPub @Jkrom11 Take any group of top players (like the Players field this week), and their skill will deteriorate over the next 2 years. This effect is even stronger on LIV given how old their average player is.
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@TeeTimesPub @Jkrom11 If you agree with DG rankings, then you should agree with DG Points. They are directly derived from true SG / DG rankings.
Average ranking not really relevant if you aren't accounting for field size.
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@joe_____schmoe He's second in adjusted strokes gained, so yes he is playing well. But DG Points are based on how hard it is to achieve your finishes... if you don't play in strong fields you won't earn many points, regardless of how well you play. To be the best you have to beat the best.
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@DataGolf Rahm 17th 😂 bro has a win 2 seconds and a 5th
Even if he did that again and had 8 total events he’d be 7th?
Might wanna check these calcs boys
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@WallysWorld09 With a cumulative stat like career points, playing a lot of events will always be a big advantage.
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@DataGolf Appreciate the response. But starts outweighing majors seems like that might need to be adjusted
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I really need @DataGolf to explain how Rickie Fowler is higher on their career points list than Brooks Koepka
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@DataGolf Is there no Paul Lawrie because you are rightly recognising his ET wins as proper wins? (unlike they do in US!)
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We are heading on to the course, follow along here: datagolf.com/live-blog/the-…
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