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Let's get one thing clear: the Southern Raiders episode is NOT romantic. It's actually a point AGAINST Zutara. Zuko capitalizes on Katara's grief to deflect her anger for him onto someone else and gain her forgiveness. That's not love and understanding. It's manipulation.

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I'meggscellent@Elmo_ui·7h

"Zutaras don't hate Aang" 🥴

Kastoria (📌) || ATLA trenches@Kastoriaaa

Apologies for the quote but I do feel like I have to get this straight. A lot of Zutaras don't hate Aang. They just feel uncomfortable with shipping Katara and Aang when she's been mothering the Gaang for so long. The only person she never mothered is Zuko [+]

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I'meggscellent@Elmo_ui·8h

@JustinS370 Why would he do that when at this point he genuinely wants to help Aang. Zuko's main goal is her forgiveness and not her closure, but he frames his actions as selfless. A truly selfless person would've been concerned about Katara's clearly unhealthy fixation with revenge.

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Airuando No Oji@JustinS370·11h

@Elmo_ui It’s definitely a point as to why Zuko and Katara shouldn’t be lovers but it not manipulation. He wanted to help her in flushing out her grief from losing her mom. If it were manipulation, he would have used that just to gain her trust and capture Aang with less required effort.

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I'meggscellent@Elmo_ui·22h

Let's get one thing clear: the Southern Raiders episode is NOT romantic. It's actually a point AGAINST Zutara. Zuko capitalizes on Katara's grief to deflect her anger for him onto someone else and gain her forgiveness. That's not love and understanding. It's manipulation.

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I'meggscellent@Elmo_ui·9h

If Zuko's intentions were truly about helping Katara get closure, he would've intervened when he saw how much she was spiraling. After all, he of all people should know the cost of letting anger consume you. Instead, he encourages her on an unhealthy path. That leans manipulative

M.Kumar@KumarMayankdee

@Elmo_ui Zuko understands what losing a mother you’re close too is like. He only found out she was potentially alive when he left. He didn’t manipulate anyone. He gave Katara what she needed during that time. Closure. She carried the guilt and pain of that memory.

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Star⟡@Starlous_·11h

@quentincoffee You forget how this episode started with 'Its not fair! Everyone else seems to trust me, what's it with you?' His intentions started off as selfish to the point katara had to yell at him. He learns the important lesson at the end

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Sandy_Yaa 🇬🇭@Sandy_BeeCandy·11h

@Elmo_ui I’m always bamboozled when they use this episode to make a point about them… this episode is actually not the best excuse to use for that ship

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I'meggscellent@Elmo_ui·9h

@shadedpsyche Was there a point somewhere that I missed, or do you have nothing meaningful to add to this discourse?😒

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🌑 noah.@shadedpsyche·11h

you people only use half your brains i swear

I'meggscellent@Elmo_ui

Let's get one thing clear: the Southern Raiders episode is NOT romantic. It's actually a point AGAINST Zutara. Zuko capitalizes on Katara's grief to deflect her anger for him onto someone else and gain her forgiveness. That's not love and understanding. It's manipulation.

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bambi 🫯@purpleneon19·11h

@Elmo_ui The way aang already knew what was she going to do😭 he knows her well i love kataang sm

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🌻little suhflower🌻🕸️@jsuhflower·12h

MUITO OBRIGADA ALGUÉM FINALMENTE PARECE TER ENTENDIDO ESSE EPISÓDIO! E no final o próprio zuko vê como ele tava errado e o aang tinha razão quando disse que buscar vingança matando alguém não ia trazer paz pra katara.

I'meggscellent@Elmo_ui

Let's get one thing clear: the Southern Raiders episode is NOT romantic. It's actually a point AGAINST Zutara. Zuko capitalizes on Katara's grief to deflect her anger for him onto someone else and gain her forgiveness. That's not love and understanding. It's manipulation.

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I'meggscellent@Elmo_ui·12h

@DuncanBrola @cody88694159 Trying to earn forgiveness through deflection rather than accountability is.

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birb.@DuncanBrola·12h

@cody88694159 @Elmo_ui Trying to earn forgiveness isn’t manipulation

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Decæde Ji-rœ ∝@TheDecade_10·12h

@Elmo_ui Don't forget how the ret@rd mocked Aang's culture twice Same people his ancestor wiped out That belief is what kept the ret@rd alive If Aang was Yangchen lol I don't need to say much

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I'meggscellent@Elmo_ui·12h

@Melechyue That's exactly my point He wants her forgiveness, but at what cost? He isn't willing to caution Katara when he sees she's spiraling because he wants her forgiveness and will do anything to get it.

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Mai Raj@Melechyue·12h

@Elmo_ui I didn't like that zuko did this either..but i think it points to him wanting azzwptancw and forgiveness from Katara. It felt off that he went against Aang & sokka in supporting Katara

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𝑯𝒐𝒑𝒆@Misdeem1604·13h

@Elmo_ui Exacto, Zuko lo que quería era ganarse la confianza del equipo, creyó que dándole a Katara lo quería podría hacerlo, pero nk vio lo que Katara en verdad necesitaba, al final él mismo admite que Aang tenía razón

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𝑯𝒐𝒑𝒆@Misdeem1604·13h

@Elmo_ui Lo peor es que también usan este episodio para decir que Aang no comprendía a Katara y que le imponía sus ideas, cuando es justamente Aang quien más conocía a Katara y sabía que se estaba dejando llevar por la ira, ni siquiera la detiene, la deja ir porque sabe que lo necesita

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Nana@Nana41947141·13h

@HAlzoubi26855 @Elmo_ui @tifasclouds And the way he lets her with zuko who betrayed him go with his belovable bison because he trusted katara so much 😭

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I'meggscellent@Elmo_ui·13h

Literally mocked the last survivor of a genocide and Zutara shippers will come on here and say Zuko is mature smh

Nana@Nana41947141

@Elmo_ui Yess! I’ve been saying this, once an enabler, ALWAYS an enabler. Plus the shit he said to aang about his people omg

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Nana@Nana41947141·13h

@Elmo_ui Yess! I’ve been saying this, once an enabler, ALWAYS an enabler. Plus the shit he said to aang about his people omg

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I'meggscellent@Elmo_ui·13h

the Southern Raiders episode was completely out of character for her. SHE LITERALLY USED BLOOD BENDING!!! Yet he didn't care as long as he got to be the one to "support" her and gain her forgiveness in the end. He did what he did purely out of self interest.

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I'meggscellent@Elmo_ui·13h

Supporting her for his own benefit and at her own detriment. You're trying to frame it like Zuko didn't know any better, but he did. In Crossroads of Destiny, Zuko spends enough time with Katara to know that she's a kind, forgiving, empathetic person and her behavior throughout

Lara 🏳️‍🌈@jovememchams

Zuko spent his whole life dealing with anger and he thought that was a good way to deal with. He understands her pain/anger and doesn't overstep. He's simply fully supportive her Hate on Zutara all u want but there's no need to create fake scenarios to make Zuko look bad

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Requim@JojoSavior·14h

I feel like people genuinely overlook Katara using Bloodbending and refuse to see how this quest she was on would not lead her to anything good if she had given in.

I'meggscellent@Elmo_ui

Let's get one thing clear: the Southern Raiders episode is NOT romantic. It's actually a point AGAINST Zutara. Zuko capitalizes on Katara's grief to deflect her anger for him onto someone else and gain her forgiveness. That's not love and understanding. It's manipulation.

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blackleprechaun3@Blk_Leprechaun3·14h

@Elmo_ui crossed her mind. Then Zuko goes to find Sokka and is like "I think this is about your mom" and completely glosses over the actual reason she gave him. He just takes her to find Yon Rha to funnel her anger elsewhere but never really apologizes for the thing she told him she was

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