Erdal
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Erdal
@GreatBakerAE
T1 . 2009-till MMO comes out . Retired Challenger S3,4,5,12,13,14 . Thresh God
Beigetreten Nisan 2012
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take all of this with a grain of salt❤️ (see disclosure at the end):
I personally think the expanding of co-streaming has only slowed the viewership decline we see in esports, not sped it up. In marketing we talk about the player (or viewer) types. Some of these viewer types are better served by co-streamers. Many people enjoy the style of their co-streamer of choice over main broadcast and that’s ok. At the end of the day: they are still watching the sport. They are still becoming fans, and tuning in every week. They are still becoming fans of orgs, showing up to events, and are 100% still part of the community. To cut them out would dramatically cut the community for esports.
It’s also not only an esports problem here. The rise of watching react content only vs watching the source material first is rising across Gen Z/alpha content trends. It’s not a trend dying down anytime soon, so catering to that trend is helping keep esports alive, and introducing it to new audiences.
The rise of short form content is much more cannibalizing to esports broadcasts IMO. Long form content consumption is down in all industries, while short form rises. Co-streamers/Influencers are better equipped to capture those audiences at the moment, and therefore they are helping keep those viewers.
All of ^^ is very positive for a business to invest in. It’s “free” advertising and content production. So if the issue is “co-streamers are taking revenue away from companies” my challenge of that would be: how much would you need to spend in staff to make content to capture those same audiences? What is keeping you from trying to get those same sponsor deals after you invest in that same content?
But co-steaming rights still can be improved.
I think the lack of diverse styles in co-streamers is a problem. IMO: we need more co-streamers not less, ideally of different types. Having all heavily analytical or ex pro co-streamers is hitting the same viewer type in many places. And that is causing the audience overlap issues that could be improved. Offering more slots to more “react” style or casual co-streamers is important to hit the vertical video/short form audience viewer. New faces help bring in new eyes. It’s not a perfect system, with a lot of risk on both sides. But it still needs improvement and experimentation.
❤️Ok Disclaimer time: ❤️
I’ve been at Riot coming up on 11 years. I’ve worked in Influencer work for most of that time. Ive also worked with esports broadcast teams for a good chunk of that. I was part of the first ever pitches internally to allow for co-streaming of our esports. Since then, I have been pushing for ways to expand co-streaming as safely as possible. Even so, these are just my personal thoughts, not the official “Riot Stance” on co-streaming. I know obviously very biased, and have these debates internally constantly, and I’m very open to being wrong. ❤️🤷♀️
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@Riotswimbananas Perkz, Caps, Jankos, Broxah, Froggen, Febiven, Mikyx, Hylissang, Wunder, FORG1VEN maybe even xPeke?
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@Riotswimbananas Beta tester here. I’ve always preferred the main broadcast over co-streams. Most just don’t bring the insight pro matches deserve. Solo queue content isn’t the same as real competitive experience. I’d watch actual pros co-streaming, not others. Nothing personal.
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@dageonde @Meleyes1 @Doublelift1 Oh i learned this language from your profile banner. It's spittin' fax cuz
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@Meleyes1 @GreatBakerAE @Doublelift1 Thank you for the translation. Wild how not kinkshaming is seen as fence sitting.
Ah well I just hope @GreatBakerAE learns to type and act like the 40 year old he is, instead of the emotionally stunted league of legends player that he has become.
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This is disgusting.
Imagine if Riot did this with Briar in HD 4K instead. It would be just the worst 🫣
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@drewlevin @goodvibesNA "GOOD VIBES ONLY" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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@goodvibesNA hey there! i looked into this and found a few things:
1. the game tagged as the reason for the ban was misapplied. our bad.
2. you were one of the most reported players in the entire game on april 13.
3. you're a masters player who trolls and flames in silver. cmon man.

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Why did I get suspended for inting while playing off-meta AP miss fortune support? 15min replay: youtu.be/UnuyFGsxTsI @drewlevin

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@dageonde @Doublelift1 Ok bro dw ur not a weirdo. Give this guy all the pussies in the world
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@Doublelift1 I’m not a foot guy and I’ll never understand it, but I’m also not one to kink shame. The same way people don’t complain about sonas jugs or irelias booty I’m not gonna complain about this.
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@Pinkwardlol @Vandiril No they aren't slowly increasing anything. Not how things work lilbro
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@Vandiril They just slowly keep increasing players per team. Till it’s just an 8v8. I think it could be cool too. They could have smaller fights in between to win your team more gold, reroll or augments in 2v2s or 4v4s, to all come together into an 8v8 in the end.
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@GreatBakerAE @bonevoid i’m the lonely one when u spend ur life worshipping 5 league of legends players who have no clue you exist 😭
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@GreatBakerAE @bonevoid 😭😭😭😭😭 pretending like ur too high and mighty to say ur point when the reality is you have an inability to express your thoughts and need to outsource it to an AI
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@NewRockstars You lied! You did watch Doomsday 3min trailer. It's NDA. But DON'T LIE! You lost me on this.
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New trailer for THE DOG STARS, directed by Ridley Scott, starring Jacob Elordi, Margaret Qualley, and Josh Brolin. youtube.com/watch?v=cmzVY1…

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@bonevoid For better example, instead of scrims 2 solid teams clash together in flex and ONLY THAT makes flex above soloq. But yet again, it's very rare occurance. So generally soloq>flex because good teams plays scrim rather than flex hence 10/100 games are good in flex.
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@bonevoid 10/100 games are truly competitive in flex which frankly is above soloq in terms of game quality yet it's very rare to happen. All 10 of the players needs to be real challengers who totally understands the game and all the aspects thus making the game above soloq
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@GreatBakerAE @bonevoid not sure what your point is here? who is low iq in this discussion? why do you need to use AI to think for you? are you incapable of evaluating thoughts in your own head?
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