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SimpMaster17

@Master17Simp

"Simp or nah? That's the question." - Shakes Beer (satire, satire, satire, satire, satire, satire, satire, satire, satire, satire, satire, satire, trigwarn)

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Izzy@TatteredSwine06·
@Master17Simp @TW0HEADEDBEAST Her thinking they're bad doesn't make them bad. They're still innocents that wouldn't have dies if she didn't blow them up
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Necksplitter, Dark Knight@TW0HEADEDBEAST·
there was such a crazy ass disconnect between the writers and audience because they thought it'd be taken as a horrific murder done for *no reason* when most of the audience are like "LOL UP YOURS TERRORIST ASSHOLE"
BurstAngel15@BurstangelIn

@TW0HEADEDBEAST Walker's entire character is about how the writers really thought audiences would accept everything they were fed and never question it. They were wrong.

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SimpMaster17@Master17Simp·
@OfficialGLMG43 @gnukeith One could argue that might even be the same because there's no force of gravity that you have to fight against.
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Palesfenian 🇵🇸🇮🇪@OfficialGLMG43·
@gnukeith Actually he has a point if you’re upside down on earth the blood rushes to your head and you get dizzy, how does it work in space ? As there’s no up or down is the blood harder to pump around the body
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SimpMaster17@Master17Simp·
@orion_van13948 @TW0HEADEDBEAST But they also "won't" kill you. Nobody is saying that Steve doesn't kill people. That same terrorist who John killed also let John go after his friend died. Actions were unfit for being Captain America.
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Gadriel Van Orion@orion_van13948·
@TW0HEADEDBEAST i still dont get why they thought ppl would cheer against walker at all he was fully justified these terrorists where also proving again and again they will take cheapshots they WILL kill you no chances taken and steve fking killed ppl so cptn america does do that
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JorekGrimson@JorekGrimmson·
@Master17Simp @KyleP762 @gooberrash @TW0HEADEDBEAST Captain America put a lot of bullets in a lot of Nazis. He killed a lot of Nazis with that shield too. If it wouldn't jack up the ratings that Frisbee would have been absolutely DRIPPING in Nazi blood. John Walker was just following the tradition of killing bad guys.
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JorekGrimson@JorekGrimmson·
@Master17Simp @KyleP762 @gooberrash @TW0HEADEDBEAST Yes. Executioners are good. Which is why the audiences cheered for John Walker. Thus going back to the original disconnect. People want to see the guilty pay for their crimes, that's why public hangings were such a spectacle back in the day.
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JorekGrimson@JorekGrimmson·
@Master17Simp @KyleP762 @gooberrash @TW0HEADEDBEAST Incorrect. Murder - unjustified killing of an innocent. Execution - justified killing of the guilty. Avengers kill the guilty. "Oh but people get cau-" That's the fault of the guilty individuals who initiated violence, not the righteous people who finished it.
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JorekGrimson
JorekGrimson@JorekGrimmson·
@Master17Simp @KyleP762 @gooberrash @TW0HEADEDBEAST I care about their actions. You misunderstand Ultron. Not everybody murders people nor are people guilty before they mruder. Yet murderers do murder people and once they've murdered they are a murderer and deserve execution.
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JorekGrimson@JorekGrimmson·
@Master17Simp @KyleP762 @gooberrash @TW0HEADEDBEAST Yeah sorry but this just makes you a bad guy. Sympathy for the murderer is cruelty to the murdered. These terrorists each deserved a personal visit from a very irate John Walker. Thus going back to the original disconnect with audiences and the showrunners.
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SimpMaster17@Master17Simp·
@JorekGrimmson @KyleP762 @gooberrash @TW0HEADEDBEAST They're not absolute bad guys though. People lose their minds the moment they're only labelled as terrorists. They're heroes and freedom fighters for thousands or maybe even millions of survivors too. They have global reach.
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JorekGrimson@JorekGrimmson·
@Master17Simp @KyleP762 @gooberrash @TW0HEADEDBEAST Terrorists are absolute bad guys. The flag-smashers were absolute bad guys. They deserved every single thing that they got and far more. They are without redemption or sympathy. They are just evil. They are terrorists. You've correctly identified why Sam's speech is bullshit.
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SimpMaster17@Master17Simp·
@JorekGrimmson @KyleP762 @gooberrash @TW0HEADEDBEAST Stop calling them terrorists ≠ They're not terrorists. Sam says this because addressing them as such tends to label them as "absolute bad guys" which incites and justifies attacks on them or those alike by other people without thinking about the root problem and consequences.
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JorekGrimson@JorekGrimmson·
@Master17Simp @KyleP762 @gooberrash @TW0HEADEDBEAST The whole fucking point of the speech was "don't call them terrorists or be mad at them for their terrorism since they were simply, and justly, angered by the system you created. YOU need to do better."
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SimpMaster17@Master17Simp·
@JorekGrimmson @KyleP762 @gooberrash @TW0HEADEDBEAST He's not defending the terrorists though, that's what people are misunderstanding. Criticizing one thing ≠ defending or supporting the other. Yes, the ENTIRE speech can be taken on its own, not every single line.
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JorekGrimson
JorekGrimson@JorekGrimmson·
@Master17Simp @KyleP762 @gooberrash @TW0HEADEDBEAST Yeah like I said, I know all that context and took it into account. The fact he's saying this in defense of violent terrorists who murdered people including Walker's best friend actually makes it worse, not better. You WANT people to take the speech on its own.
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SimpMaster17@Master17Simp·
@TatteredSwine06 @TW0HEADEDBEAST Legally speaking yes, but not to her/ them since they were working under the GRC. She sees the GRC as bad while thinking they themselves are solely doing good. Also:
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Izzy
Izzy@TatteredSwine06·
@Master17Simp @TW0HEADEDBEAST But he does. The difference between John and Steve is how they were given the power. Steve was chosen, while John decided to do it. And look at the conversation he had with Lamar before he took it. He didn't do it "for more power" he did it to protect those he couldn't.
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SimpMaster17@Master17Simp·
@Tallahassee337 @Vanyabug It's just likely the case because they do it for engagement farming purposes and there's always the big discourse and controversy between John and Sam being Captain America that gets people to respond to their tweet.
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SimpMaster17@Master17Simp·
@TatteredSwine06 @TW0HEADEDBEAST It's a false equivalence to say that both John and Steve exemplifies what it means to be the "good man", especially with John's beliefs, mindset, and personality. Steve understood motives and was able to sympathize with the oppressed,didn't seek to kill out of revenge. And Karli:
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Izzy@TatteredSwine06·
@Master17Simp @TW0HEADEDBEAST Whats crazy, is that all the "good man" qualities that Steve showed, John also showed. Pre serum, at least. Carli robbed a supply depot then blew it up with ppl still inside. And Carli didn't say they weren't innocent she said "This is the only language these people understand"
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