Seth Ring
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Seth Ring
@SethRing
Making cool things with cool people. Author - Writing books that make you feel great (GameLit and LitRPG) https://t.co/I2CVgcgriP https://t.co/iEjggAvpmZ
USA Beigetreten Temmuz 2009
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@Kristin_Fiction is a professional Indie Editor who does amazing work and her rate is much MUCH more fair than 6c per word. That is frankly an insane amount of money to pay someone for a debut indie edit.
Thanks to tools like Grammarly you really don't need a line editor if you have a good head on your shoulders. And people like Mrs. Tiernan will acknowledge that AND WON'T try to push their more expensive package on you if you don't need it. Her developmental input was immaculate and I would 1000% recomend her to anyone writing and independently publishing most genre fiction.
Skryvener@sarahs_sky
I'm not going to be as nice as this lady. If you don't have an editor, please don't publish. I don't care if you're paying that editor or not, but they need to be someone who *can* edit professionally. Technically, yes, you have a choice of whether or not to get outside help with your book, but I have yet to find the unicorn miracle that is good without any outside professional help. Opting to "not" is a great way to produce trash. However, a good edit is going to run $3-5k. The £880 quoted as an average here for an 80k manuscript is only around 13 hours of work at $60/hr (which is a good editor's rate). That's not really realistic. I expect the quoted average, then, is not really a dev or line editor's average, but is a blend including copy, which is a lot cheaper. I recommend, if you can't afford this, to work on your own editing skills (check out our videos--we discuss a lot of developmental editing topics in the context of actual books) and then *swap* work with other people. Basically, use your time as currency instead to get others to help you edit. But do not publish without outside editing advice.
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My lukewarm take is that is that if you replace the meaning behind "get an editor" from "hire online professionals to go over your manuscript" to "find some trusted people to help you proof your text," then yes, indies must get an editor.
SciFi Author James Krake@KrakeJames
Anyone else ever notice that the strongest advocates for "indies must get an editor" are the people who directly benefit from indies spending 10x their revenue on editing?
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@AuthorMTay Royal Road has a more male audience and is better for sci-fi.
Wattpad is better for romance and classic fantasy.
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@SethRing Do you find wattpad or royal road more effective specifically for litRPG or would posting more traditional scifi/fantasy adventure get feedback?
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@KrakeJames 💯 I went full time off a LitRPG series with no editor.
I've certainly benefited from editors since then, but "trad quality" =/= market viability.
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Should I just keep posting hot takes today?
Profitability of a book has almost no correlation to traditional metrics of quality. If it did, sales wouldn't be dominated by Romantasy and LitRPG.
The metrics have changed. Reader discovery has changed.
SciFi Author James Krake@KrakeJames
Anyone else ever notice that the strongest advocates for "indies must get an editor" are the people who directly benefit from indies spending 10x their revenue on editing?
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