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@jord_Gefion065 @ratbastard06060 @Rinne_yt Single specific platform cases only show business strategy, not the principle being discussed. The core issue is simple and ‘no current market’ doesn’t mean ‘no impact.’ Markets are shaped long term. So ‘potential demand’ isn’t irrelevant

@ShuaNoCompo @ratbastard06060 @Rinne_yt Sure, let's ignore cases like the Bilibli platform in Spanish, where the most financially supported series were canceled to try to increase traffic with BL, causing the massive abandonment of the platform and its subsequent closure

The Japanese community is calling out Westerners over piracy, and it sparked a heated discussion. User (luckynosu) asked: “Why is it that so many Westerners can't understand the Japanese way of thinking that hates justifying theft?” But another user (TakumiTakumado) pushed back, pointing out that one of the biggest piracy sites reportedly gets around 45% of its traffic from Japan. It highlights a clear disconnect: in Japan, piracy is widely viewed as outright theft with little tolerance for excuses, while in Western spaces, it’s often justified due to accessibility, pricing, or availability. Meanwhile, the scale of the issue is massive, Japan estimates online piracy caused over ¥5.7 trillion (~$30B+) in digital content losses in 2025 alone.

@Neko_AF__ @BasedZaku It's literally so simple I don't know why foreigners don't get it. Piracy is bad and no argument is going to justify the nature of your actions. So don't use your personal circumstances and excuses to rebrand it as justification for an unnecessary illegal choice.

@BasedZaku I think it's because they want to try to get them to agree with them, but that ain't happening. x.com/Neko_AF__/stat…

For the past several days my timeline has been full of people arguing with Japanese people about piracy. Don't really get it. If you wanna pirate, do it, why do you need to convince some Japanese guy with facts and logic that it's okay?

@rommel435 @aoshiroyama You’re treating ‘current market’ and ‘potential market’ as completely separate, but they aren’t. A potential market only becomes real if demand signals justify investment. Piracy removes that signal. You’re artificially limiting impact to only current sales. Markets aren’t static

@ShuaNoCompo @aoshiroyama Ingresos potenciales y ahí queda no pasa de ahí rara vez eso Sucede entonces es un mercado con el que ellos no tienen en cuenta por ende no pierden ganancias

Я очень смеюсь из-за срачей с японцами за пиратство, потому что они говорят, что авторы теряют прибыль, но…. если я не могу купить продукт, значит на прибыль от меня и не рассчитывают… и если я спирачу продукт, который мне не планировали продавать, о какой прибыли речь?..

@ratbastard06060 @Rinne_yt At this point it’s not about who wants your money or where content is distributed it’s about your unauthorized use being rebranded as justified simply because its preferred. I will do it anyway is a statement of illegal choice not an argument that it’s valid. Learn the difference

@ShuaNoCompo @Rinne_yt A lot of lip service that I dont care for. Bottom line is they don't want our money, cares not for our support, and wants to kept their products native to them, and so long as that is their logic I will continue to pirate. You're not convincing me otherwise.

@CynicalHeartber @Rinne_yt Accessibility issues can explain why piracy happens, but they don’t make it necessary or justified. ‘Hard to access’ isn’t the same as ‘no choice.’ It just means the legal path is inconvenient or limited Otherwise every inconvenience becomes a justification to bypass ownership.

@Rinne_yt what many Japanese who hate pirating dont realise is that if they made content Easier to access and with less translation issues we wouldnt NEED to pirate content... Its not like i could waltz into a store in the UK and pick up a copy of Onegai My Melody in English officially

@hassundotX @Rinne_yt The difference between theft and copying is about method not legitimacy Unauthorized copying still violates distribution rights regardless of whether a physical object is removed. Companies are the legal rights holders of the work. Whether they are ‘bad’ doesn’t change ownership

@Rinne_yt 「ソフトウェアの不正コピー」 I am confident Japanese people are smart enough to understand the difference between stealing and copying. They are not bad in the same way. Bonus: Companies are not people. Don't defend them like they are holy people. Many are greedy and uncaring.

@ratbastard06060 @Rinne_yt You’re treating market intention as static, but it isn’t. Companies don’t just serve pre selected regions forever they respond to viability. Piracy still replaces potential licensing, distribution, and future market expansion even if that market wasn’t active yet.

@Rinne_yt They made it abundantly clear that overseas civilians were never intended to be customers, and that their products should remain native to them, therefore my money was never a factor and my piracy now harmless. Their logic, not mine, but it's logic I'll gladly accept.

@ShittyTartaruga @aoshiroyama It’s not about whether they specifically planned to sell to you in person They don’t need to have a guaranteed sale planned for there to be economic value If content is consumed for free at scale, it reduces the incentive and leverage to license, localize, or distribute it later.

@ShuaNoCompo @aoshiroyama It doesn't matter if is more than one "lost sale" bc since the beginning there wasn't any way for ppl in other countries to buy it, since they didn't intend to sell it to us in the first place. How can they lose money that they didn't want to receive in the first place?

@mbn0072185001 @aoshiroyama Even if piracy decreases when legal access improves, that’s a statement about behavior under convenience and not a justification of the behavior itself. People choosing the easier legal option doesn’t turn the illegal option into something valid.

@ShuaNoCompo @aoshiroyama But they don't, it's been proven over and over again that when there is a reliable source to buy a product the piracy of said product drops a lot, because it's the safer way

@pandasticafanta @grpeephole303 @neroopinion If restricted access automatically justified bypassing rules then there would be no stable rule or distribution system at all and only personal exceptions. At that point the concept of licensing, pricing, or regional distribution stops functioning entirely.

@ShuaNoCompo @grpeephole303 @neroopinion Si hay censura por parte de los medios oficiales, o simplemente el gobierno no te permiten tener el producto me parece legítimo que la persona que quiera consumir un medio lo haga. Si no vives como en una secta.

もし自分がオタク環境に恵まれない地域に住んでいて、SNSで「日本にも海賊版があった？知らねえな。違法アップロードは海賊版じゃないし。二次創作はファンの愛ある創作活動だからな。ていうかたかが漫画くらい諦めろよ野蛮な外国人！」って日本人に言われたらーーー

@DericiEren @pandasticafanta @grpeephole303 @neroopinion Publishers are strict, that’s still their decision as rights holders. Disagreeing with it doesn’t make unauthorized use justified. Calling it ‘gatekeeping’ doesn’t change the fact that it’s their work to license. If the market isn’t sustainable, piracy doesn’t solve that.

@ShuaNoCompo @pandasticafanta @grpeephole303 @neroopinion People tried so many times you know. There were TV channels here who tried to be anime dominant TV channels so they could spread the culture, couldn't agree with any the Japanese publishers and bankrupt in a year. It's about Japanese publishers trying to gatekeep the works

@LittleEvilNika @abura_dev Lack of awareness explains why piracy happened before but once people know the difference, it becomes a conscious illegal choice, not just the environment. Not knowing is one thing but continuing once you do know is a different situation entirely.

@ShuaNoCompo @abura_dev Я не говорю, что пиратить надо и правильно. Но во многих странах был период, когда, например, люди даже не отличали пиратское от лицензии. Просто пользовались тем, что было на рынке. Я как раз и объясняю, что это не личное, это делали вообще все вокруг и не знали что можно иначе

俺は、海賊版を今全て消滅させろとか、海賊版が戦争のように重大だとか、今日本にお金を払えとか、そういうことは言わない。 海賊版を崇拝するなと言っている。堂々とするな。犯罪者らしくコソコソ生きろ。海賊版で間接的に著者が潤うという神話を信じるな。あなたはただのフリーライダー、恥を知れ。

@pandasticafanta @grpeephole303 @neroopinion Empathy explains the behavior but it doesn’t turn it into a right. This isn’t about privilege. it’s about whether explanation becomes justification. Those aren’t the same. Lack of money or access explains why piracy happens but it doesn’t make it justified.

@ShuaNoCompo @grpeephole303 @neroopinion Igualmente yo apoyo las versiones legales! Si puedo permitirme las y las puedo comprar siempre voy a comprar, Pero hay gente que simplemente no puedes, y es súper injusto que los trates de malas personas desde tu privilegio.

@pandasticafanta @grpeephole303 @neroopinion Using that to justify piracy in general doesn’t follow. Wanting access to culture is understandable, but it doesn’t automatically create a right to bypass how that content is distributed Extreme cases don’t create a general right and wanting access doesn’t equal entitlement.

@ShuaNoCompo @grpeephole303 @neroopinion Hay países donde ya leer manga y ver series es un acto de rebeldía que te puede llevar a la cárcel, no es mi caso, Pero defenderé el derecho a que una persona tenga acceso a la cultura que se le es negada siempre.

@ann_levit @SenekaSey You’re confusing not enforced with not a problem those aren’t the same thing. This isn’t about acting like something was stolen, it’s about whether unauthorized use is justified Avoiding consequences doesn’t answer that And piracy replaces paid demand, cuts into potential revenue

@ShuaNoCompo @SenekaSey это вы ведёте себя как ребенок, у которого украли игрушку. вы не получаете никаких штрафов, если условный европеец прочитает мангу бесплатно.

я конечно удивлена что оказывается пиратство это не база для всех стран в мире..... 😭

@pandasticafanta @grpeephole303 @neroopinion If you were actually fighting for change you’d support legal options and create paying demand. Piracy doesn’t do that it just replaces it. At this point it’s not about principle, you just want access without paying, and ignoring the bigger picture of how that affects availability

@ShuaNoCompo @grpeephole303 @neroopinion Es que ustedes son demasiado pasivos, se quedan en el "no se puede, nada que hacerle en esta vida" en occidente si algo no se puede luchamos hasta que se pueda. Gracias a eso tenemos mangas traducidos, no nos movemos desde la pasividad.

@grpeephole303 @pandasticafanta @neroopinion We are not shaming. Just saying your excuse doesn't provide any justification for the nature of your actions.

@pandasticafanta @neroopinion It definately seems like there are reasonabke people on all sides. I think a portion of the Japanese dont understand that trying to shame the west wont work.

@ann_levit @SenekaSey You paid for the PS5 so you have that don't you?

@ShuaNoCompo @SenekaSey мне ограничили доступу к магазину. японцы не дают мне играть в продукт, за который я заплатила. возвращайте мне деньги и выплачивайте моральную компенсацию .

@ann_levit @SenekaSey Buying a PS5 doesn’t entitle you to every game on it. Games are separate products with their own distribution limits. Not having access isn’t being scammed it’s a limitation, you’re confusing buying hardware with being entitled to all software.

@ShuaNoCompo @SenekaSey у меня есть ps5, но я не могу покупать игры и играть в нее. мои деньги ушли компании Sony, но они отказываются предоставлять мне доступ к покупке игр. я считаю, что меня обманули. Япония вернёт мне деньги?

@wicthor_joao @YD20250410 @neoperonista You’re reducing everything to no sale = no loss but that’s not how markets work. Free copies still act as substitutes and shape demand. At scale, that affects licensing, investment, and availability, so there absolutely is impact, even if you don’t see a direct transaction

@YD20250410 @neoperonista Voces falam em analogias o tempo todo, sempre resumindo a complexidade do sistema a poucas frases "Raiz de todos os crimes é o agressor" Que agressor? Que vitima? Nao exite mercado, nao existe perca de dinheiro. Nao existe vitima nem agressor, a propia lei preve nesses termos

En este mundo existen alrededor de 7.000 idiomas. ¿Significa eso que si los japoneses no pueden traducir una obra a esos 7.000 idiomas, deben renunciar a los derechos sobre su trabajo? Las personas “normales” de la comunidad internacional se oponen a esa fantasía que tienes. No importa el contexto en el que te encuentres, los autores japoneses tienen derecho a sus obras. Eso es precisamente lo que es el copyright. Si existe un manga que consideras tan imprescindible que estás dispuesto a violar los derechos de otros y poner en riesgo su sustento, entonces deberías dirigirte a tu gobierno o a la comunidad internacional. No obligues a los trabajadores artísticos de otros países a sacrificarse por tus deseos.