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Twin Cities based chapter of the @CNliberalism.

Twin Cities, MN Beigetreten Aralık 2020
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By popular demand (and the need for more space as our events grow) we will be changing our 2026 chapter meetup location to La Doña for the rest of the year! Same time (6:30pm) and same date (3rd Wednesday of every month) just new location! Address is 241 Fremont Avenue North
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Chapter meetup update! We will be moving our location of our 1/21 chapter meetup to La Doña Cervecería Brewery in an attempt to help boost local, immigrant run businesses impacted during the ICE surge. Still meeting at 6:30 on 1/21. Address is 241 Fremont Ave N.

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@ryangruber Right, rent control was damaging but there were other forces at play. But Carter endorsed the policy and as a result, was seen as backing all the consequences from it. He never had a big moment he could point to where he told the activists no.
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@TCNewLibs For sure. I don't think rent control is the only thing holding StP back, but the total lack of leadership on that issue - "We should pass it and then fix it?" Talk about speaking out of three sides of your mouth. Carter could have killed it by opposing it.
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Semi-related: if you had asked people in 2020 who had the best political future between Frey, Carter and Walz, Frey finishes a distant third. Fast forward to today, Frey won again fairly comfortably while Carter lost and Walz was a pushed out of running for a third term.
Sean Hayford Oleary@sdho

People say Jacob Frey is polarizing, but the fact that the left-wing and right-wing internet seem to hate him about equally for doing a dorky tourism video is saying something.

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@ryangruber Think this is conventional wisdom now, and if you’ve held that belief since 2018, kudos! Seems that Frey being the only one to tell the left “no” in 2020 and 2021 was the real sliding doors moment. Carter couldn’t with rent control, Walz on… well lots of things.
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Ryan Gruber@ryangruber·
@TCNewLibs Frey has always been the best executive of the three. He just has an irrationally loud political minority in his constituency that skews perspectives b/c the Star Tribune constantly platforms them and both-sideses everything. Walz and Carter got years of cake pieces and fluff.
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@johnnyjoejoe5 True, but the OP point was with the horseshoe piling on, it would be easy to assume that if someone is unpopular with the left and the right, they’d be unpopular overall. But Frey won a third term! So he’s at least popular with some faction!
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@TCNewLibs once you realize most of progressive MPLS politics is just the same few hundred or so people just being very loud it makes much more sense that Frey won re-election.
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@LiberallyLiving Not sure this explains it, there were multiple credible challengers in 2025 who weren’t ultra leftists, they just couldn’t gain the same traction. This might’ve been true in 2021, but not 2017 or 2025.
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@TCNewLibs A lot of this is just credible challengers understanding that Mayor of Minneapolis might be one of the worst jobs in the country. Both of his main reelection opponents have been extremists, even by Minneapolis standards.
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Join us for our March chapter meetup tomorrow! Arrive as early as 6:30pm at La Doña (241 Fremont Ave N, Minneapolis). Transit via the 9 or C Line. As always, look for the table with the globe 🌐
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@leiftree No disagreement here! One huge barrier to improving the actual service is that sort of coordination. One topic of discussion in the Midtown station redesign specifically was the need to make B line transfers better. Still, public safety is a huge part of the whole discussion.
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Leif “on the chud’s list” Hawtdish@leiftree·
@TCNewLibs I arrive to Lake Midtown every single day practically to a B-Line bus pulling away from the station right as the train arrives. Next bus is usually > 10 minutes out. No coordination. Can’t expect more people to populate the trains if driving takes ~ 1/4 the time.
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This still fundamentally feels like a public safety story. The light rail sees bigger ridership declines than the busses and is still the part of the system experiencing more public safety issues. axios.com/local/twin-cit…
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@natehoodstp Totally fair take! Certainly more than one thing going on, question is on the weighting of each issue. Public Safety seems like the way larger hangup here, but ymmv, it’s going to be a hard thing to solve!
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@sedkimic Sure but then you’d expect that to hurt rail and the bus somewhat evenly, unless you have data about downtown worker transit usage? It’s a factor for sure, but still think the challenge is 75% safety, 25% other forces at play.

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@leiftree Probably true that on the ground, the situation is better than the stats indicate. But one reason so many staff resources have been dedicated to the Blue Line is that conditions materially worsened on the system. Can’t expect people to return while MT’s stats say crime is up.
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Leif “on the chud’s list” Hawtdish
Leif “on the chud’s list” Hawtdish@leiftree·
@TCNewLibs I gotta push back on this thought here. I ride the blue line specifically. I see transit staff all the time. They are riding the trains, checking fares and yes, they are at my station, Lake-Midtown every single morning I arrive.
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Rhett Carlson@rhett_carlson·
@TCNewLibs Future I-94 BRT stations should get the fare gate treatment too.
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@sedkimic Sure but then you’d expect that to hurt rail and the bus somewhat evenly, unless you have data about downtown worker transit usage? It’s a factor for sure, but still think the challenge is 75% safety, 25% other forces at play.
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Michael Sedki
Michael Sedki@sedkimic·
@TCNewLibs Office workers into downtown were big drivers of ridership on the train. They still haven't returned. See downtown office building valuations as confirmation. Safety and/or perceived safety are very important. Just not a monocausal factor here.
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Either developers will take advantage of the extra space to build more units or lower costs, thus helping address affordability or they will insist on double staircases because of preference. No way to know without legalizing them!
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Still on for tonight folks! See you all at La Doña starting at 6:30. Check 511mn.org for latest road updates and plow tracking.
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Chapter meetup update! We will be moving our location of our 1/21 chapter meetup to La Doña Cervecería Brewery in an attempt to help boost local, immigrant run businesses impacted during the ICE surge. Still meeting at 6:30 on 1/21. Address is 241 Fremont Ave N.

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