@ChrisbWells @gummibear737 Did you make that up yourself or did you read it in 4chan?
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Wayne Lance
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Wayne Lance
@WayneLance
An idiot can create more bullshit than you could ever hope to refute. - Fanelli
Chicago Beigetreten Mart 2011
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@gummibear737 We’re in a war for our civilization/way of life (China is helping Iran), anyone from our side against it at this point is traitorous…
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I listened to this interview and it's like we're living in separate realities
1) These are OG neocons and they sound exactly like Cenk and Tucker
2) They don't acknowledge the actual objectives (nukes/ICBM)
3) They judge the war on their invented criteria
4) Nonstop doomerism
The Bulwark@BulwarkOnline
" There's gonna be money to be made in all these countries running against the United States, which is going to turn everybody against us." Robert Kagan and Tim Miller discuss America's slide into global isolation.
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@cooperthedog17 @KeithOlbermann @AriFleischer No. Trump already said he doesn't feel compelled to honor article 5. And he's also threatened to invade them. And supported their enemies.
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When this is over, the western part of NATO will never be the same. Spain, England, France and Italy have sold us out, as they too often have a history of doing. Eastern European nations are the heart of NATO. They spend money on defense, know how to fight and love the US.
France particularly deserves fault and blame. From supporting China and Russia at the UN to denying Americans overflight rights, they’re doing what they’ve always done - showing weakness, while cutting deals with terrorists. (The reason the US has a Marine Corps and Navy is unlike France, we refused to pay a ransom to the Barbary Pirates. France is always happy to cut a deal.)
Wars have unintended consequences as nations show their true colors.
NATO will never be the same, and Western European weakness and acquiescence is the cause.
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@Acyn Biden made Trump tear up the agreement that allowed over 3000 inspections a year of Irans nuclear program...and he made Trump start bombing Iran without a plan?
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@AngryPatriotic @Doranimated What is the projection on loss of life?
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@Doranimated They have 48 hours.
He knows they will not comply.
We are going to take the strait.
It will henceforth be known as the Strait of America.
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A large group of C-17 military transport aircraft of the US Air Force is crossing the Atlantic and heading towards the Middle East, according to data from Flightradar24.
C-17s are used for transporting personnel, heavy weapons, and armored vehicles. This is one of the largest aerial troop deployments since the beginning of the war. Trump is not about to exit the conflict.
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@JonahDispatch One word that paints the opposite picture as more likely. Mullin!!!
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I have to think there are enough Republicans senators with self respect that this won’t happen.
Republicans against Trump@RpsAgainstTrump
Fox News reports that among the people on the shortlist to replace Pam Bondi as AG are Jeanine Pirro and Alina Habba. Habba, a former Trump attorney and former U.S. attorney for New Jersey who was disqualified by a judge, appears to have launched a campaign for the job. Yesterday she posted a photo of herself with Donald Trump and JD Vance in the Oval Office, writing: “Always an honor 🇺🇸” No idea who the next AG will be, but they’ll probably be worse than Pam Bondi.
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@pronounrespectr @ka_grieco @matthewstoller YOU don't know. Other do, and those people are not unburdened like you with lack of knowledge coupled with incredible confidence.
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@ka_grieco @matthewstoller We do not know the size of the prewar inventory, this is fake news.
Could be true, could be not true. But this retard is trying to tell you a number like it’s fact because she has a narrative she’s trying to tell, not actual analysis.
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US sending nearly all JASSM-ER cruise missiles to CENTCOM, leaving "only about 425 JASSM-ER out of a prewar inventory of 2,300" for other contingencies.
When does the US lose conventional deterrence against China? We're edging dangerously close.
bloomberg.com/news/articles/…
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@JohnCleese Ari is beholden to Trump and must speak lies, embrace immorality and look the other way at the massive grift. He is part of the grift.
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This Ari works for Fox news
No need to refute him...
Plamen Neykov 🕷️🇪🇺🇩🇪🇺🇦#FBPE@plamen_neykov
Why are you lying? The US has long sold and betrayed Eastern Europe - Stoltenberg admits negotiating with Lavrov in '21 (with US blessing) for NATO to return to 1997 borders. United States voted against a resolution condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2025. Trump stopped ALL aid to Ukraine. Trump accepted ALL russian demands for peace. Etc, etc, etc
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@KeithOlbermann @AriFleischer I suggest we stay in NATO, and when someone attacks one of those countries, we do the same, "this is not our war".
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@AdamKinzinger @AriFleischer The problem with anyone who supports Trump, being reasonable, logical, and principled is, it is not an option. The virtues must be forgotten, while pretending on the surface they still matter.
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Watching the self destruction of @AriFleischer is crazy. I used to think he was reasonable but maybe i just didn’t pay attention
Jonah Goldberg@JonahDispatch
Sorry, Ari. I just saw your response. I think it is hilarious that rather than actually respond to my point, you simply opted to double down on your practice of carrying water for Trump like a modern-day Gunga Din. I think it's great that NATO is spending more on defense. I think Trump can be commended for encouraging it (though the turd-polishing of some folks on this front is often embarrassing. He primarily didn't do it to "save" NATO or even to make it stronger). But all of this is irrelevant to the point you dodged. If you think Trump has handled the transatlantic alliance well since being elected to his second term, say so. Own it. Don't deflect. But if that is your position, that's pure idiocy or dishonest spin. Our NATO allies *should* step up. It would be in their interest. But Trump has made the politics of that near-impossible by threatening Greenland, claiming that our allies didn't really fight in Afghanistan and Iraq, (not Vance's Munich performance, dicking around with Ukraine) etc. Even the far right (outside of Hungary) parties hate Trump now. Then, when Trump launched this war on Iran he said he didn't need any of their help because we already won. Now, he's asking for help, but he can't concede error or even ask nicely. So he implies their all cowards who need to muster "delayed courage." Defend that Ari. Hell simply acknowledge it.
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Wayne Lance retweetet
The President starts a war with Iran.
Now, his family looks to profit from it.
The corruption is enough to make you sick.
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@LindseyGrahamSC @POTUS Cool. What are you going to propose after we spend the next few weeks "reigning hell" down on them and we are are still in the same place? More hell? Pack up and go home? Scold Europe?
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I just had a great conversation with @POTUS. I totally support his ultimatum to the Iranian regime to open up the Strait of Hormuz and to do a peace deal.
A massive military operation awaits Iran if they choose poorly.
This regime has been severely crippled through Operation Epic Fury. Their reign of terror against the region and the world needs to come to an end, hopefully through a peace deal.
After speaking with President Trump this morning, I am completely convinced that he will use overwhelming military force against the regime if they continue to impede the Strait of Hormuz and refuse a diplomatic solution to achieve our military objectives. If it’s not clear to Iran and others by now that President Trump means what he says then I don’t know when it will ever be.
Choose wisely.
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@UmlandAndreas It's worth asking a similar question but more broad than simply defense. Is the US ready for a world where they are not leading like minded nations to achieve like minded objectives?
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In a worst-case scenario, is Europe prepared to accept the loss of the U.S. as a security guarantor, at least in the short term?
With Minna Alander in THE KYIV INDEPENDENT kyivindependent.com/how-should-eur…
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@RYP__ What is he going to do when raining hell down on them doesn't change things? Rain more hell down? Yell at Europe? Pack up and go home?
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Crazy ex-girlfriend president is back on the deadline thing. Can't Iran just give him his records back and take down those nasty social media posts?
OSINTdefender@sentdefender
U.S. President Donald J. Trump states that Iran only has only 48 hours remaining of his 10-day ultimatum to “MAKE A DEAL or OPEN UP THE HORMUZ STRAIT - before all Hell will reign down on them.”
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@DA_Stockman Two questions. How do you put the genie back in the bottle? What would/should the central bank do under recessionary circumstances like a 2008?
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@ianbremmer what is Trump going to do when he rains hell down on them and nothing changes? Rain more hell down on them? Chastise the EU? Give up and go home?
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if you’re counting, president trump with third unilateral 48 hour ultimatum to iranian govt that refuses to negotiate or reopen strait.
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@JonahDispatch No country can trust Trump. He is unreliable and self serving, he favors Russia to allies, and rather than cooperation and negotiation he expects subservience. He will leave them holding the bag and they know it.
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I’m not going to deal with all of the idiotic replies. But pretending that Trump didn’t threaten to invade a NATO ally is just more hackery.
LibertasFanatic@GiveAllLiberty
@JonahDispatch He poisoned the alliance by calling out their own failings in this first term. The media harangued him for calling them out, making the truth seem bad.
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Wayne Lance retweetet
July 1987, Moscow, USSR — Trump, 41 years old, flies to Moscow at the invitation of Soviet Ambassador to the U.S., Yuri Dubinin.
Upon returning from Moscow, the bankrupt Trump suddenly receives loans from 16 banks and, without negotiation.
1/n
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Let’s triple the defense budget to celebrate!
Kevin Malone@Malone_Wealth
BREAKING: For the first time in history, the average pound of ground beef is higher than Federal Minimum Wage. Everything is not fine.
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Wayne Lance retweetet
Notice how quickly all that bullshit about liberating Iranians disappeared, and now it's all about bombing them back to the Stone Age, destroying their bridges and universities, poisoning their air and water, and stealing their oil.
ALX 🇺🇸@alx
New from President Trump:
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@Indio68227435 @Microinteracti1 Trump confirmed when campaigning that he would not honor article 5. Europe already knows that the US under trump is an unreasonable partner and can't be trusted.
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@Microinteracti1 He is a great former General, who “gets it.” Our supposed “allies,” who need Iranian oil, told us to pound sand. No problem. Wait until Europe needs our help again. Hopefully we give the middle finger 🖕 We should invest in our own hemisphere and divorce ourselves from Europe
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NATO just told America: not through our skies.
A furious US general went on Fox News and confirmed it. Italy. Germany. Spain. France. Every single one of them. Airspace closed. Bases locked. Go find another way.
The empire built 75 years of alliances for exactly this moment. And when the moment came, the allies watched from the window.
Fighting alone. In the Middle East, nobody cares.
Gandalv / @Microinteracti1
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