
Jake
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Jake
@WhtPrl95
Member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, husband and father
Beigetreten Nisan 2018
193 Folgt24 Follower

@gregstier So much incorrect in this. Don’t recommend taking anything he said here seriously, if you want to know what we actually believe, come and see, all are always welcome
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What Mormons Believe vs. What the Bible Teaches:
Mormonism (LDS)
• Church: The Church of Latter-day Saints is the only true church, restored through Joseph Smith after all others became corrupt
• God: God was once a man who became God; has a physical body, along with a Heavenly Mother
• Trinity: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three separate beings (three gods)
• Jesus: A separate god from the Father; created as a spirit child and considered the “elder brother” of all people. His body was created as a result of a sexual union between God the Father and Mary. His death on the cross does not pay for the sins of all people
• Scripture: Bible is accepted “as far as it is translated correctly,” along with the Book of Mormon and other LDS writings
• Salvation: Faith in Christ + obedience and good works → exaltation (becoming like God)
• Afterlife: Most people go to one of three kingdoms of glory; only a few go to outer darkness
Bible (Christian Teaching)
• God: Eternal, self-existent Creator—never created, never a man (“I AM”)
• Trinity: One God in three Persons—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
• Jesus: Fully God and fully man; conceived by the Holy Spirit, not created. He died for the sins of all humanity on the cross and proved he was God in the flesh through his resurrection
• Scripture: The Bible alone is God’s complete and authoritative Word
• Salvation: A free gift of grace through faith in Christ alone, based on his finished work on the cross—not earned by works
• Afterlife: Eternal life with God for believers; separation from God for those who reject Him in hell
Things to Remember When Talking With a Mormon
• Be loving, kind and truthful. Many LDS members may not know or fully agree with official teachings
• They often use familiar Christian terms—but define them differently
• Stay focused on understanding, not just debating, then share the simple Gospel as laid out in John 3:16
Helpful Questions to Ask
• “What do you mean by salvation?”
• “Who is Jesus?”
• “Do you believe faith alone in Christ alone is enough to save?”
For more information on Mormonism and other worldviews check out dare2share.org/worldviews

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@MarkRome17 @EricCMeadows Not saying it’s proof it’s true, spiritual truth only comes from the spirit, gotta seek that out yourself, but you make it sound like what he did is pretty easy. If what you claim is true, I think he would be the greatest literary genius of all time
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@WhtPrl95 @EricCMeadows He did have 5 or 6 years to prepare to dictate the BoM. They lived in a time when story telling was much more prevalent and people could memorize a lot more than we can today. Plus, Mohammad was uneducated too so I guess that means the Quran is from God.
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Inspired scripture:
Song of Solomon 7:1-3
1 How beautiful are thy feet with shoes, O prince’s daughter! the joints of thy thighs are like jewels, the work of the hands of a cunning workman.
2 Thy navel is like a round goblet, which wanteth not liquor: thy belly is like an heap of wheat set about with lilies.
3 Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins.
Demonic:
2 Nephi 25:26
26 And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins.
Am I understanding this correctly?
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@MarkRome17 @EricCMeadows Crazy how Joseph with so little education was able to “come up with” 188 unique names and not have a single one break Hebrew grammar rules. Plus all the various timelines that are contained and never once contradict each other. Would love to see if you could do it
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@EricCMeadows It's not demonic. Not angelic either. It is just Joseph Smith rehashing themes in the KJV and adding in his spin of ancient civilizations. Joseph's Fables as I like to call it.
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The April 2026 edition of the World Report from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is now available to watch on the Church Newsroom YouTube channel. The program is available in 11 languages across Church YouTube channels.
This edition opens with the calling of Dallin H. Oaks (@OaksDallinH) as the 18th president and prophet of the Church, the calling of two new Apostles and a tribute to the life and legacy of President Jeffrey R. Holland.
The program also takes viewers around the world to learn more about global news events of the Church from the past six months, including the ministries of Church leaders, wildfire relief in Chile, aid in Jamaica after Hurricane Melissa, the recovery of ancient petroglyphs and other inspiring stories.
Watch the April 2026 World Report below:
youtube.com/watch?v=8lxZgO…

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@JoelMCurzon @turf_supreme Just ask grok, the data is available and clear, members of the Church of Jesus Christ rank highest in most all metrics of happiness, charity, love, service, biblical knowledge and study, have stronger families, etc
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@turf_supreme I reject the notion that their adherents are necessarily happier or better off, though fairy tales can be comforting. But look around the world: there are many such cases. The Catholic Church, for instance. One of many.
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@GenuineRex @EricCMeadows No, when understood in their full scriptural and historical context, Joseph Smith’s prophetic statements did not include any that failed to come to pass in the specific timelines he claimed—because the ones critics highlight as “failed” were conditional commandments or promises,
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Many Christians say the Book of Mormon is not true because they don’t think it’s “God breathed.”
Do they think the Song of Solomon is God breathed?
Eric Meadows@EricCMeadows
I have never read the Song of Solomon. Am I a bad person?
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@GenuineRex @EricCMeadows Sorry I have typos in this, John 10:41 says John didn’t cause any miracles
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@GenuineRex @EricCMeadows With that standard, Joseph is a much better fit for a prophet than John the Baptist and Jonah. We have many extant witnesses and written testimonies of miracles and prophecies from Joseph Smith Jr, but John the Baptist made no prophecies (John 10:14), Jonah’s prophecy didn’t come
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@ChristLifeInc1 @JustintheN3rd So the other side would be you worship satans creator?
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As members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, we believe in the Godhead.
We worship one God - God the Father, the Most High God.
Because of our sins, we have to approach the Father through His Son, Jesus Christ, who is the great Mediator and our Savior.
In addition to scripture, we are taught, guided, and sanctified by the Holy Ghost.
So while we do not understand ‘one God’ in terms of one substance or essence like the traditional Trinity, in practice our worship is directed to the Father, through the Son, and by the Holy Ghost, with all 3 working together for the salvation of God the Father’s children.
We believe that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are three distinct divine persons, perfectly united in will, love, and purpose.

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@wingsnut86 @GuyInco15542744 LDS doctrine claims Jesus is the eternal God, creator of the heavens and earth, that he lived, died on the cross, and rose on the third day. I think that is in the Bible as well, which would be pro LDS
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@JasontheLayman @GuyInco15542744 If Hebrews 1:1–2 meant ‘no more prophets ever,’ the entire NT prophetic activity—including apostles and associates receiving revelation to write the NT books—would be invalidated. That’s self-refuting for the cessationist reading.
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Because of many things, but even how it starts denounces your false prophets: "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son."
Before Jesus walked on this earth, He spoke through prophets, but for the last two thousand years, we have the actual message from Christ Himself.
Everyone after John the Revelator who claimed to be a prophet has been proven to be a liar.
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@RandomLDS If there was no apostasy, then why do we have 45,000+ denominations all professing belief and authority in the Bible and all disagreeing on what it actually means?
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@Samuraijrussell @ThoughtfulSaint You asked if these things were ever taught in seminary, the answer is yes, many times throughout my life. Those that taught me were able to learn it for themselves somehow as well
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@WhtPrl95 @ThoughtfulSaint Are you honestly trying to claim that the church has never attempted to whitewash its own history (or certain events)?
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I am now in my 40s.
You did not grow up in an entirely different religion.
Stacker confuses his personal experience with culture and religion.
stacker@stackerco
If you're Mormon and under 30, don't lecture people on the church, church history, apologetics or anything else. You grew up in an entirely different religion and are ignorant to what we experienced and to the church's past in general. Thank you for your understanding.
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@Samuraijrussell @ThoughtfulSaint D&C year of seminary with my teacher Brother Pond actually. Also learned it from a Sunday school teacher at church before high school. Just cause it didn’t happen for you doesn’t mean it didnt happen ever. Also had lots of lessons from my mission president about things like this
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@ThoughtfulSaint How many times were you taught about the seer stone in seminary, or that it was the exact rock Joseph Smith used for his treasure hunting endeavors? Never.
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@stackerco Over 30 here, and I disagree, same core doctrines are all still there. Gotta stop living in the past and keep up with where the Lord is taking His church in preparation for His return.

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@JasminRappleye @TheGermanicist I’m stoked for this change as a current EQ Pres and how this will help us prepare better lessons that have more meaning and impact in a shorter span. A time to make some positive changes and a fresh new chapter
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@joyinbecomingp1 Also make sure your RS Pres and Bishop know how you feel and what your experience has been. And of course, know you are loved and welcome and part of this! You are seen and needed. Keep the faith!
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@joyinbecomingp1 Why wait for the church to do something? Why not form and start your own groups, like a book club, make a Come Follow Me Study Club, you dont need church permission to do this. Make your own FHE group, dont wait for the church to do it for you.
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I am literally terrified .....literally I want to cry and fall apart because I am so SCARED!!! Because I know what this leads to ....it leads to one hour church time ....it leads to ppl like me being lost and forgotten. I haven't felt supported since we had 3 hour block time for church. It just feels like the focus is those with families at home and that no one else matters. Apparently we didn't learn the lessons of covid did we? Or maybe this is how they want it. Maybe those of us that don't have families aren't welcome and they don't want us to be involved? Because apparently I don't matter or have worth anymore.
Jonathan Plumb@jonathanplumb
FIRST BIG CHANGE DROPPED! Beginning September 6, all classes (but Primary) will be 25 minutes, and ALL classes will be held each week. No more EQ/RS one week, Sunday School the next. We all know the first General Conference of a new Prophet is always a banger. Buckle up. It’s about to get spicy!
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@ATIF_Podcast @stackerco Ultimately this just points to the beauty of continued revelation, as more light is received more understanding is gained. Continue to grow in the light, or end up hating it I guess?
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@ATIF_Podcast @stackerco Couldn’t the pioneers basically say the same thing? “You dont know what it’s like to have your house burnt down and to move time and time again because of your faith. Kids these days dont know the real cost of Mormonism…”
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These younger Mormon apologists are coming from a completely different environment. A different Mormonism really.
They’ve grown up shaped inside apologetics and polemics, so these reinterpretations feel normal to them.
They haven’t really experienced lived Mormonism as it was, what you might call Bruce R. McConkie Mormonism of certainty and hard claims. They haven’t lived through the church calling things anti Mormon that turned out to be real history.
Instead, they’ve inherited something thinner, more flexible, more abstract, more surface level where they can ignore deep doctrines and past teachings and prophets that teach things they don’t like. And that’s all they know.
They are trained to creatively resolve problems instead of confronting them.
Their informative years were based on “doubt your doubts” while we were raised with Hugh B Browns’ “We must be willing to give up cherished beliefs if evidence and truth require it.”
So when contradictions show up, the instinct isn’t to question the system like it was for many of us Gen Xers. Their instinct is to reframe it. That’s what they believe is the best way to find truth.
The Stick of Joseph podcast is an example. A couple guys in their 20s. If you watched that interview with John Dehlin, it’s hard to miss the combination: confidence without context and arrogance.
But it’s not just indoctrination. This social media thing has given them more incentive.
In-group platitudes and shallow statements get likes and views and praise. Their identity, platform, and status are tied to defending the system so their reasoning is motivated, not neutral. They haven’t had a chance to think for themselves. And now with social they cannot.
You can see these apologetics have changed from guys like Hugh Nibley to apologetics that just try to soften problems.
Ward Radio, Stick of Joseph, all these shows have zero depth. They’ve shifted from Hugh Nibley claims to how do we create ambiguity so anything could be allowed to be true? It’s the only way to survive modern scrutiny, by making everything unfalsifiable.
So now they’re arrogant. They think they’ve figured it out better than us old guys. Because they’re “more nuanced” and “intellectually mature” than the past generations.
They don’t get caught up in minor things like polygamy, race in the priesthood, anachronisms, Book of Abraham translations like us old idiots do. And it’s our fault we didn’t research this stuff and just believed the church when we were growing up.
Really the generations have grown up in entirely different religions and cultures. And while we may have been trained to think more black and white, the younger generation has been trained against thinking critically.
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