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Why is BYU’s defense so bad?

@j_divis I know

@stackerco I believe it’s Christ’s doctrine.

Satan’s biggest lies: • Baptism isn’t needed for salvation • No more scripture is needed • Prophets and apostles are not needed • Families are not forever • God doesn’t have a body • God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are not three distinct beings • Apostasy never happened • Miracles and personal revelation have ceased; God no longer speaks to or works through mortals today • A little sin is no big deal, God will justify us in a few small transgressions and still save us in the end • “All is well in Zion” there’s no urgent need to repent, change, or prepare; everything is basically fine as it is • We did not exist as spirit children of Heavenly Parents before this mortal life • Temple ordinances, endowments, and celestial marriage are unnecessary or merely symbolic for the highest degree of glory • Exaltation is impossible, we cannot become like our Heavenly Father • There are no degrees of glory, after death it’s simply heaven for the saved or hell for the rest (or universalism erases consequences entirely) • It doesn’t matter which church you belong to, all paths lead to God, or the “invisible church” makes organized religion unnecessary

@HankAynReardon @pimomormon Yup

@pimomormon Leaders are just men.

It wasn’t the “anti‑Mormon” attacks that burned my belief. It was leaders’ refusal to report abuse.

@dadof4princeses @RavnReborn @JohnnyTani3 @MattTestifies And was bullshit then too

@RavnReborn @JohnnyTani3 @MattTestifies What a terrible argument. Divine command was consisted throughout the bible. Your temporal morality argument sucks

A lot of critics of Joseph Smith ask questions they never ask of Moses, Peter, or Paul.

@henry_brent @exmormons_speak Correct. He thought he was ending everything.

@exmormons_speak @stackerco I would submit that Jesus didn’t start anything. As stated in Mark, he was an apocalyptic and thought the end was so imminent that he told others they would experience it in their lifetime. Anything started anew occurred after his death.

Please stop saying Jesus started a new religion. “Church” did not mean what you think it means. In Koine Greek, the NT word for "church" is ἐκκλησία (ekklēsia): a called-out assembly or gathering of people. It’s like a a Bible study group. Or a civic meeting, town hall, or Israel's congregation in the Septuagint. It’s not a religion or buildings. English “church” traces to Greek kyriakón “of the Lord” via Old English for “Lord's house,” which shifts emphasis to the building, institution, or denomination.

@bartofthehouses @OstiumDominus @MenWhoSawJesus I wish Jesus would show me an actual example of reformed Egyptian.

@OstiumDominus @MenWhoSawJesus I wish Jesus would teach me Reformed Egyptian.

@KintsugiJin No, just from reading about the history of Nauvoo … 😉

Wait wut? Do I learn about this in the super secret mega doppler temple ceremonies??

@Yippie_Calle That would be a theological claim only.

@stackerco What if I say he restored one?

@pimomormon 😆

@stackerco What a dumbass 😂

It never ends

@riceslicer @grok @Orthodox_Glocks @MattTestifies wtf dude. That is not how you look at things .

You already did that and it doesn't make any sense to isolate the word in a vacuum and then say it just means a civic meeting. It means a group of people united around common belief. That's what it means and I don't care what you or grok have to say about it. Thousands of years of understanding what it means trumps a few decades of people saying otherwise and totally erasing all meaning behind that scripture and really the entire New Testament...cus some atheists dudes who studied Koine Greek say so.

The idea that Jesus established a Church and then everyone immediately got it right for 2000 years is one of the wildest assumptions in Christianity.

@KramersFaith The cup is what Egyptians used. But Jospeh used it as a prop to mess with his brothers. He never actually uses it and there is never a revelation that comes from it.

It's interesting that Joseph of Egypt apparently used his silver cup for divining... he was a seer, after all.

@SuperMensch I try to ask nicely

@stackerco I'm sure the "please" will make your request stick. :)

@ZelTheGreatLDS Did you have the correlation department approve this before you wrote it? Or are you just following my tweets?

LDS (Mormon) critics don’t have answers. They just have questions.

@MattTestifies If there are plausible naturalistic explanations, does this idea fall?

If Joseph Smith was a fraud, you still have to explain the Book of Mormon, the doctrine, the witnesses, the fruit, and the staying power.

@JohnnyTani3 @dadof4princeses @MattTestifies If you’re asking Abraham (if real) he’d probably tell you it’s OK under Levirate Law anyway.

Abraham isn’t history. He’s myth. Archaeology confirms it. No evidence exists outside the text, zero. Scholars agree: written 1,000 years after he supposedly lived. Camels weren’t domesticated in the Levant until centuries after his story was composed. But here’s the actual question you’re dodging: If Abraham is mythology, which it is, then you’re justifying the sexual abuse of children using invented stories. Not history. Not evidence. Imagination. So which is it? Do objective moral truths exist across time, making child marriage wrong yesterday, today, and tomorrow, or are you simply a relativist shopping for religious permission to harm kids? Because you can’t have both. You can’t say “Abraham’s real” to justify abuse, then say “Abraham’s metaphorical” when archaeology laughs. Pick one. Own it.

@riceslicer @grok @Orthodox_Glocks @MattTestifies No I asked Grok what it mean in the original Greek. Which is something you should do

Grok Wars is boring. My point is, you got Grok to agree with you and I got it to agree with me simply by the framing of the question. Your interpretation suggests that Jesus is just holding a meeting with other Jews and Peter is gonna head up that meeting and Hell won't prevail. Words mean a lot of things and there is a context for them. People didn't rally around Christ because they liked His brand of Judaism. The Jews killed him over what he was teaching because it radically opposed Judaism. Your watered down lukewarm lackluster version of Christ and His Kingdom reeks of secular bitterness toward anything beautiful and divine about Jesus Christ and His work.

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@riceslicer @grok @Orthodox_Glocks @MattTestifies Huh x.com/i/grok/share/8…