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ZenBeav🦫

@ZenBeav

OSU Alum. Meditator. Smile, Breathe, and #BuildTheDam 🦫🙏

Beaver Dam Beigetreten Aralık 2017
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Oregon State Baseball
Oregon State Baseball@BeaverBaseball·
On the board first thanks to an RBI double by Paul Vazquez!
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Stephen Schoch
Stephen Schoch@bigdonkey47·
Dax Whitney reached 200 career strikeouts tonight in 118.2 innings of work. Dude is elite
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Welcome to Beaver Nation Coach Lippi! 🦫🏀 #GoBeavs
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Oregon State Track & Field / Cross Country
Golden state of mind ☀️ The Beavs kick off a three meet weekend in California! The Mike Fanelli Distance Carnival starts at 9:00 am with the 5,000 meters and the Stanford Invitational starts with pole vault at 10:30 am. 🔗 linktr.ee/beavertfxc?utm…
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Yeah man, this is good for the P12, just not in the way you’re framing it. MW was never trying to block all discovery. They were trying to narrow it. P12 was never getting everything, and they knew that. The judge split the difference, but P12 got the more meaningful win (+2) because MW now has to include board/officer docs, which MW had to know was a real possibility. Discovery in a case like this is way more than emails/texts. A lot of the important stuff is boring stuff like spreadsheets, draft agreements, board materials, and internal financial docs. The nerd-fight is whether the poaching penalty gets treated as a naked restraint that’s illegal on its face, or as ancillary enough to get full rule-of-reason treatment. What they get in discovery helps build that record and could shape what the judge decides on summary judgment. I don't think they're primary goal is to try and discover communications between individual people that would determine the outcome of the case, although that would be really helpful. They knew they're would be some restrictions on that. The financial data they need to make their case showing the fees were not tied to scheduling output or actual harm could be and often is just as impactful.
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THE Ram U
THE Ram U@CSURamT·
@ZenBeav @TBM_JY Really dude? The documentation. You mentioned is the MWC communications. The judge just determined who is considers included in that. We are saying the same thing. You are arguing semantics. The MW didn't want to turn over anything. They must now.
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THE Ram U
THE Ram U@CSURamT·
I missed this yesterday, but the MWC has lost its dispute to limit the PAC12 discovery and must turnover all their paperwork and communications regarding the poaching fees, scheduling agreement etc., allowing for deep discovery for the PAC12. Could be a big loss for the MWC.
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"must turnover all their paperwork and communications regarding the poaching fees, scheduling agreement etc., allowing for deep discovery for the PAC12" That's not true. The judge did not order the MW to turn over anything. The judge ordered that the MW must include the documentation held by it's Board Members and Officers, buy not Athletic Directors, in response to inquiries raised during discovery. All documents from member-school executives that are not part of the Board have to be pursued by subpoena. It's not a slam-dunk victory. The MW did gain some protection in their efforts to resist discovery exposure. I do agree with you that the fact that the MW is putting up a fight to try and limit the scope of discovery is likely telling. But I'd also do it regardless if I was guilty of something or not. It's just good strategy. 🤷‍♂️ Dismissing the fraud counter-claim is a +2 win for the P12, but the other claims that survived are a +1 win for MW. Losing discovery protection for the executives that were board members and officers for the MW is a +2 win for the P12, but shielding the rest of the member-schools executive leadership is a +1 win for the MW.
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THE Ram U
THE Ram U@CSURamT·
@ZenBeav @TBM_JY Maybe you both missed where I said "could be". It is a big loss if things are found in the additional documents that support the PAC12's case. What is meaningful is the MW tried to block that from happening and yet lost that so must turn over some items.
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@TBM_JY @CSURamT You're both spinning a bit. It’s a meaningful loss for MWC, especially after losing the fraud counterclaim. Real fight is over merits of the penalties, but we don't get into summary judgement territory until late 26' or early 27'.
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JY@TBM_JY·
@CSURamT It is not a "big loss". It is the discovery process. This is about process, not some made up conspiracy theory about "hiding documents" or a "cover up".
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Oregon State Football
Oregon State Football@BeaverFootball·
Setting the Dam Standard on & off the field 👏📚
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