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ɱųʑŋąɧ (abel’s wife) 🇿🇦🇸🇿
Otherwise you would need to show which parts of his speech were strictly AAL and which were English. Which words, grammar and vocab were AAL and which were English? If the only thing you can point to is “be speaking”, then that is not at all equivalent to distinct languages lol
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ɱųʑŋąɧ (abel’s wife) 🇿🇦🇸🇿
kev did not shift in and out of anything, he spoke one consistent, VALID English dialect, AAVE. He didn’t “weave between standard North American English and AAL”, he is speaking ONE dialect that has a unique tense not found in other dialects.
Thandekile Moyo@Mamoxn

I understand the defence mode and I too was a bit defensive before fully engaging the argument and understanding what was being said. ​In this instance, South Africans are sounding just like Americans did during the Tyla issue. No matter how much people explained that Coloured is a distinct identity in SA, Americans wouldn't hear it. ​Now, African Americans are trying to explain that moving between English and AAL is a legitimate shift from one language system to another, Just like a South African switching between English and isiZulu. And South Africans are refusing to understand that exact same nuance. ​Just because Tyla looks Black to an external observer who doesn't understand the context of South African history and cultural identity, It doesn't erase the fact that she is Coloured. In the exact same way, Just because AAL sounds like English to an external listener who doesn't understand the socio-political history and linguistic identity behind it, It doesn't erase the fact that it operates as a completely separate language system. What started as a celebration of how fluidly characters move between languages in The Polygamist, Has unfortunately turned into two sides arguing past each other from completely different standpoints. While the argument for AAL is about language, power, and defending its autonomy against erasure, The pushback is from those defending the beauty and complexity of South African multilingualism. Both of these truths can coexist. We can praise a unique linguistic landscape without using it to dismiss the validity of another.

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What is Car in AAL?? 🙄
Thandekile Moyo@Mamoxn

I understand the defence mode and I too was a bit defensive before fully engaging the argument and understanding what was being said. ​In this instance, South Africans are sounding just like Americans did during the Tyla issue. No matter how much people explained that Coloured is a distinct identity in SA, Americans wouldn't hear it. ​Now, African Americans are trying to explain that moving between English and AAL is a legitimate shift from one language system to another, Just like a South African switching between English and isiZulu. And South Africans are refusing to understand that exact same nuance. ​Just because Tyla looks Black to an external observer who doesn't understand the context of South African history and cultural identity, It doesn't erase the fact that she is Coloured. In the exact same way, Just because AAL sounds like English to an external listener who doesn't understand the socio-political history and linguistic identity behind it, It doesn't erase the fact that it operates as a completely separate language system. What started as a celebration of how fluidly characters move between languages in The Polygamist, Has unfortunately turned into two sides arguing past each other from completely different standpoints. While the argument for AAL is about language, power, and defending its autonomy against erasure, The pushback is from those defending the beauty and complexity of South African multilingualism. Both of these truths can coexist. We can praise a unique linguistic landscape without using it to dismiss the validity of another.

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9/10 African nations at the 2026 World Cup have advanced to the knockouts. Incredible 👏🇨🇻🇸🇳🇨🇮🇬🇭🇲🇦🇩🇿🇪🇬🇨🇩🇿🇦
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Mehdi Hasan
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Maybe the Europeans should have thought about all that back when they were colonizing Africa in the 19th century.
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Cured Catfish Claudia
Cured Catfish Claudia@Nomaswazi_11·
My issue is, if we were to translate the conversation she’s having, then we’d be discussing the validity of Tsotsi Taal in relation to isiZulu only and THAT is code-switching. What we do is beyond that, and the American lens will never capture that because it doesn’t go that far
.@naledimashishi

This is a long standing linguistic debate tbf. Often times the difference between a language and a dialect has more to do with politics than anything else. It’s why Balkan languages are all considered different languages even though they’re mostly mutually intelligible

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ɱųʑŋąɧ (abel’s wife) 🇿🇦🇸🇿
Naaahh, you could argue that what is white supremacist is saying that when black people have a dialect that has slight grammar quirks (like a large amount English dialects do), that those dialects needs to be sectioned off and considered a distinct language to keep English “pure”
PremSoonCome@IsItXolani

South Africans are engaging in white supremist rhetoric unknowingly. AAVE is a language just as Xhosa and Zulu are language. If you want to argue it’s a dialect, that same argument can be used for both Xhosa and Zulu.

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Sibulelwa
Sibulelwa@Sibulelwa269195·
@_muznah @IsItXolani The same system that elevated one deliberately suppressed the other. That’s the point.
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ɱųʑŋąɧ (abel’s wife) 🇿🇦🇸🇿
@Sibulelwa269195 @IsItXolani I have agreed that linguistic categorisations have been applied unevenly, but the problem is that neither of you have outlined your own criteria besides political consideration. In a conversation that started with a professor who USED those very same criteria you’re both
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Sibulelwa
Sibulelwa@Sibulelwa269195·
@_muznah @IsItXolani Afrikaans formed organically through contact and mixing, just like Tsotsitaal, and then got elevated through political will
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