
Doc Sulo
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Ozempic works by making you eat less not by making you metabolically healthy



I agree that carnivore diets can help as an elimination diet (removing refined processed foods and even for certain people the plant foods they may not tolerate). However, I don't believe it's accurate to say "non got scurvy." There are 24 published case reports of scurvy on either all meat diets or ketogenic diets, which was reversed with vitamin C supplementation. Additionally, even if a carnivore doesn't develop scurvy, in most cases their serum vitamin C levels will likely be in the insufficient range (i.e. < 28 umol). 1. Florid Scurvy in an Autistic Child on a Ketogenic Diet - Willmott NS, Bryan RAE. *Pediatr Emerg Care*. 2018;34(11):e211-e213. doi:10.1097/PEC.0000000000000972.[](pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30461672/) - Summary: This case report describes a 5-year-old autistic child who developed scurvy while on a ketogenic diet for neurological disorders. The child presented with symptoms including petechiae, gum bleeding, and bone pain due to severe vitamin C deficiency. The authors highlight scurvy as a rare but serious adverse effect of the ketogenic diet, especially in restrictive contexts, and emphasize the need for vitamin C supplementation or careful dietary planning. 2. Case Report: Scurvy in an Epileptic Child on a Ketogenic Diet with Oral Complications - **Citation**: Willmott NS, Bryan RA. *Eur J Paediatr Dent*. 2017;18(3):201-204. doi:10.1007/s40368-017-0287-2.[](pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18793598/) - **Summary**: This report details a 9-year-old girl with epilepsy and developmental delay who developed scurvy after three years on a ketogenic diet. Symptoms included bleeding gums, a petechial rash, and persistent socket bleeding after tooth extraction, with a vitamin C level of 0.7 µmol/L (deficiency: <11 µmol/L). The diet, initiated in 2003, reduced seizures but lacked adequate vitamin C sources. The case highlights oral complications (e.g., inhaled tooth) and the need for pediatric dentists to recognize scurvy risks in ketogenic diet patients. The authors recommend routine vitamin C monitoring and supplementation. Even with a reported vitamin C intake of 73 mg/day (above the RDA of 45 mg for age 9–13), the patient developed scurvy, suggesting possible malabsorption or increased vitamin C needs in ketogenic states. 3.) Scurvy due to restrictive diet in a child with autism spectrum disorder: case report pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30204999/“We report a case of a 4-year-old male patient with a diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder, which developed scurvy secondary to a long-term selective eating habit without fruit or vegetable intake.” 4. No Longer a Historical Ailment: Two Cases of Childhood Scurvy with Recommendations for Bone Health Providers Alten ED, Chaturvedi A, Cullimore M, et al. *J Bone Miner Res*. 2022;37(4):e0256. doi:10.1002/jbm4.10622.[]( pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31901946/ This article reports two cases of childhood scurvy, one of which involved a child on a restrictive diet potentially overlapping with low-carb principles (details are limited). The authors discuss scurvy’s re-emergence in modern contexts due to dietary restrictions, including ketogenic-like diets for medical or behavioral reasons. Recommendations include screening for vitamin C deficiency in children with restricted diets and ensuring adequate supplementation. Available on PubMed: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31901946/ 5. In children treated with a ketogenic diet: “A significant increase in bruising or other minor bleeding was reported and/or observed in 16 of 51 patients (31.4%)” pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11198302/ 6. An Old Anti-Epileptic Therapy Meets an Ancient Morbidity: The Ketogenic Diet and Scurvy aesnet.org/abstractslisti… “The ketogenic diet (KD) has been used since 1921 to treat children with medically refractory epilepsy. Early side effects of the KD include dehydration, acidosis, and hypoglycemia; growth failure, decreased bone mineral density, and nephrolithiasis may occur later. The International Ketogenic Diet Study Group recommends supplementation with a multivitamin containing B vitamins, vitamin D, iron, & calcium because of limited quantities of vitamin- & mineral-containing fruits, vegetables, & grains in the KD. Symptomatic deficiencies of B vitamins and vitamin D, & also selenium, rarely have been reported in children given the KD. We report a case of a girl who developed symptomatic scurvy (vitamin C deficiency) while receiving the KD for refractory epilepsy, despite multivitamin & mineral supplementation thought adequate. Methods: A nonverbal 12-year-old girl with refractory epilepsy and developmental delays had received a gastrostomy tube-fed, invariant blenderized, 2:1 KD for 8 y without major complications. Mild chronic acidosis was treated with enteric sodium bicarbonate. She presented with an illness of 2 mo duration, with: progressive feeding intolerance; microcytic anemia (without depression of platelets or leukocytes); recurrent bilateral knee swelling; and edema of both legs. Radiographs, magnetic resonance & nuclear medicine imaging suggested suprapatellar bursitis or osteomyelitis, with gelatinous conversion of the bone marrow and epiphysiolysis of both distal femurs and proximal tibias. The sedimentation rate and C-reactive protein were elevated. After 3 wk of antibiotic therapy she worsened, developing tachycardia, tachypnea, a requirement for weekly red blood cell transfusions, abdominal distension, bruising, & bleeding gums. The diagnosis of scurvy was suspected; it was found that due to recurrent episodes of feeding intolerance, her specialized KD vitamin mix had been inconsistently administered for several months. Results: A critically low serum vitamin C concentration (<5µmol/L; normal range 23-114) was found; concentrations of vitamins D, E, copper, & zinc were normal. All signs and symptoms rapidly improved after receiving 500 mg vitamin C daily for 14 d, followed by 250 mg daily; at 3 weeks of repletion, her serum vitamin C was 55µmol/L. Conclusions: Vitamin C is an essential nutrient necessary for collagen and neurotransmitter biosynthesis. However, in industrialized countries, most physicians have not seen scurvy, resulting in delayed diagnosis and prolonged evaluation. Few US or Western European children with scurvy have been reported, mostly in children with limited self-restricted diets due to autism spectrum disorder. All of our child’s signs and symptoms, including gelatinous conversion of the bone marrow, were explained by vitamin C deficiency; both her erratic intake, and her bicarbonate therapy (which decreases ascorbic acid absorption) likely played a role. More intensive monitoring of vitamin C intake, along with other micronutrients, is important in patients on chronic KD therapy. Funding: None 7. When a diet is followed too strictly. Scurvy - An old disease in a modern gut: A case report pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40760540/ “The final diagnosis was scurvy, resulting from a chronic deficiency of vitamin C due to a severely limited diet that lacked fruits and vegetables.” 8. Scurvy in an Unrepentant Carnivore. A detailed case of an adult man who developed classic scurvy (perifollicular hemorrhages, corkscrew hairs, hemorrhagic gingivitis, ecchymoses, etc.) while eating an extremely restricted diet of only canned beef and cooked meats with virtually no fresh produce. Vitamin C levels were undetectable. He recovered with supplementation but relapsed when he stopped. This is one of the clearest documented cases tied to a near-carnivore intake. cdn-uat.mdedge.com/files/s3fs-pub… 9. After trying an all-meat diet for a few weeks, singer James Blunt says he developed signs of scurvy, a rare condition caused by a severe vitamin deficiency. After eight weeks or so, Blunt says he became “very, very unhealthy.” So he decided to see a doctor, who then told Blunt that he’d developed symptoms of scurvy and that he was “lacking in vitamin C.” self.com/story/james-bl…



Insulin resistance is nothing but carbohydrate toxicity driven by overconsumption of refined sugars and carbs It starts when your body has to deal with too much sugar too often, so it releases more insulin to keep blood sugar under control. Over time, your cells stop responding properly to insulin, like ignoring a signal that used to work. Because of this, sugar can’t enter your cells easily and begins to build up in your bloodstream. Your body reacts by producing even more insulin, trying harder to force the sugar into your cells. Eventually, this constant struggle disrupts your metabolism making it easier to gain weight and harder to stay healthy.


@ScottAppliedSci I don't see how someone can't see the black swans (someone resolving T2D eating a high carb diet) and come to the same conclusion. There are scores of people who have done this


Saturated fats are NOT essential Saturated fats are NOT essential Saturated fats are NOT essential Saturated fats are NOT essential Saturated fats are NOT essential Saturated fats are NOT essential Saturated fats are NOT essential If you disagree, you don’t know what ‘essential’ means.



Intense exercise reverses atherosclerotic heart disease



@WillDobud The ever growing market place of competing psychotherapies has led to the leveraging of concepts such as ‘real’ ‘pure’ & ‘true’ therapy to define what one does in distinction to one’s competitors.


















