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@JordanC25253124 @G1959Gary @EssexgoonerMr That doesn't have any relevance on the totals of the bill You can argue all your want. It is 55%. You just don't understand how math works

@drifter104 @G1959Gary @EssexgoonerMr 1/10 vs 2/10 is not 50%

Under Labour, someone WORKING on £35k salary is £1,400 worse off But someone NOT working with 3+ kids could get £81k a year of benefits This is becoming a DISGRACE Rewarded for not working & PUNISHED for working harder for less

@JordanC25253124 @G1959Gary @EssexgoonerMr Nope - 55% gov.uk/government/pub….

@drifter104 @G1959Gary @EssexgoonerMr No a 3rd is pensions not 50%

@JordanC25253124 @G1959Gary @EssexgoonerMr Yet again over 50% is pensions - Those working and claiming UC are also paying tax & ni.

@drifter104 @G1959Gary @EssexgoonerMr Either you are on benefits, claiming a pension, or you are an imbecile. Ffs trying to justify a £334 billion bill! Why the fuck should the upper working class pay for this BS. Including substituting labour from abroad as Brits won't do the jobs. bbc.co.uk/news/business-…

@FiveStepBeyond @sophielouisecc No it really isn't more complicated than that. The only time is if the 15% you have to pay of childcare equal more than your salary. Which is basically impossible and qualify for childcare

@drifter104 @sophielouisecc The benefits system is far more complicated than that, especially where the 55p deductions begin. However, it is possible for a family of 4 to be better off on benefits than working. Rare but it can happen and often depends on extra money claimed if a child is disabled

This is a straight up lie One million people in benefits are better off than a person working full time on the living wage

@centre_right_ You can't pay rent with vouchers or gas bills with vouchers

Shouldn’t Labour’s extra support for families be in the form of vouchers for food and kids clothes?

@Vocal_GenX You mean like topping up their pension with credits. Something we already do.

Why not grant 'benefits' to grandparents providing child care for their grandchildren?

@Maloogastwin Hardship funds don't require you to be on benefits. You made a claim. Prove it.

@drifter104 well I'm not yer mam but go and look for hardship payments and similar. All energy providers also have hardship funds to pay out at their discretion. I'm feeling like an adviser at the dole office. Also every doley I know has a car...every single one of them.

@G1959Gary @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr In what situation?

@drifter104 @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr So given all that what is the maximum you could get?

@Maloogastwin Show me what cheap utilities someone on UC can get

@drifter104 IQ 85 detected. Either that or you're just not doing the dole in the right way because you're IQ75?

@Maloogastwin @Cerberusbite83 @sophielouisecc You don't know Jack. Council tax discount is totally separate and varies Council by council. The only utility that "cheaper" is water but loads of people not on benefits qualify for that too. No free legal advice or dentists and everyone gets free health care

@Cerberusbite83 @sophielouisecc True, but we know for a fact the minimum. We also know all the other freebees amount to thousands a year. Cheaper utilities, no council tax, completely free healthcare and dentistry. Access to free legal advice and a career path to PIP and Motability cars!

@G1959Gary @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr Also carers allowance is deducted £ for £ from UC as it is treated as income. The replacement carers element isn't the same amount

@G1959Gary @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr Grok doesn't understand that to get dla you need to be able to provide 35hrs of care a week, but get pip number you need be on highest level pip & get the mobility amount. Basically you can't get both at the highest levels as one contradicts the othet

@yarwoodwilliam It isn't. We need family friendly policies to encourage more children. That is the only way the ever increasing pension burden will be covered

The welfare bill is set to be £406bn by the end of this decade. For some context, £406 billion is equivalent to the lifetime taxes of about 317,800 households. Total government expenditure is projected to hit over £1.5trillion, meaning 25.1% of all public spending will be swallowed by welfare by the end of this Parliament. Debt meanwhile is projected to stand at approximately £3.5 trillion by the end of the decade with hundreds of billions to be spent on debt interest alone. Meanwhile, the tax burden is projected to exceed 37% of GDP or reach 38% of national income by the end of the decade breaking the post-war record. I challenge anyone to explain to me how any of this is sustainable.

@G1959Gary @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr Let's say they can though. You do understand that a family entitled to 81k could then earn 30k on top and keep most of those benefits right

@G1959Gary @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr They can't. People have taken a number which had words in front of it that made the number mean one thing and changed words to make mean something else.

@JamesCarly98971 @BenGrahamUK @RachelReevesMP Except outgoing don't exceed income

@BenGrahamUK For God's sake,will someone get @RachelReevesMP from accounts a calculator, and explain if your outgoings exceed your income you will be broke. Oh and it's not your fucking money!

The UK has crossed a line. Welfare spending: £333 billion Income tax revenue: £331 billion We’re now paying out more than we bring in from workers. This is unsustainable.

@KEdge23 Now you have to decide, enough to eat or place to live? Which one you picking?

@KEdge23 So you have 3 children, you're on 70k a year. You don't get any help. You fall at work, bust your leg, months of rehab ahead but at least the gov will help with enough to make sure you can still afford your rent and to not starve. Oh wait you have 3 kids.

What’s so controversial about expecting parents to feed and pay for their own children? Benefits should be capped at two children. The two-child benefit cap was fair. It’s unfair on taxpayers that Labour have scrapped it. There goes £3 billion a year we can’t afford.

@G1959Gary @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr You completely missed the point here. This is all in response to the article saying you need to earn 71k. An article in which it compares a working 2 + 2 with a non working 2 + 3 with a child with disability. I'm pointing out that if you make them the same it's very different

@drifter104 @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr People who work don’t tend to claim any disability benefits and definitely don’t have 3 or more kids unless they can afford it