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Jonathan Barrow (@PretendoNetwork)
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Jonathan Barrow (@PretendoNetwork)
@jondbarrow
Backend software engineer and API designer. Lead developer of @PretendoNetwork 🏳️🌈
Florida, USA Beigetreten Haziran 2017
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@wanderwilled @jjohnjohnjohnjo Genuinely just a skill issue on your part. I started my software developer career over a decade ago as web dev. This isn’t anywhere near as hard as you make it out to be
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@jondbarrow @jjohnjohnjohnjo I’m not saying they shouldn’t do it, alt text is very important to have, but thinking it takes less than 2 hours for one person to do is very wishful thinking.
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@zarslair @Abigail_Nitro @robotcocksucker You people are just being intentionally dense at this point the way you keep bringing up the hosting costs and such. I’m just leaving this here and if you still don’t get it, I can’t help you. Not worth my breath repeating the same stuff over and over again
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@_NattuNatNat @kurtcobainyaoi @austroraptorfan @Skunksprayz I genuinely can’t tell if you’re being intentionally obtuse about the actual issue or not. Not a single person here gives a shit about them raising money. Everyone knows the site needs money to run. The issue is acting like it costs $140k to add basic accessibility features
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@jondbarrow @Abigail_Nitro @robotcocksucker Your offer to cover their site hosting & business expenses is really sweet! Thank you for keeping Art Fight a free AND ad-free experience for us
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@zarslair @Clipart_Bear @robotcocksucker None of the site images (this is distinctly different from the UGC) have proper alt text, and what’s worse is some images do have the alt text attribute but it’s misused (such as on the “About” page where the first image just has the alt text “About.gif”). Which is not compliant
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@zarslair @Clipart_Bear @robotcocksucker Art Fight is not compliant. It’s not about navigation/image buttons/whatever, alt text should be present on all non-text content with few exceptions. You can read the guidelines here w3.org/TR/WCAG21/ specifically section 1.1.1
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@zarslair @Clipart_Bear @robotcocksucker As a general rule if your website offers UGC, you’re protected by safe-harbor rules. Meaning you’re generally not responsible for what users do, including these mandates. But you really should still mitigate this by just requiring alt text for upload where possible
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@Clipart_Bear @robotcocksucker That just strikes me as really predatory; what does meemaw's bird hobby blog need to be ACA compliant for? Legal trolls can truly be awful.
Here's a question: If a user fails to set their attack's alt text, would they get sued, or does Art Fight? I suspect user.
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@jjohnjohnjohnjo Are you stupid. I said 1 minute per image. Not 1 minute for 100 images. Alt text is just a description of the image for screen readers to use for the visually impaired. 60s per image is more than enough per image, literally just write what you’re looking at
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@jondbarrow @_NattuNatNat @WulfiiWuffs @robotcocksucker Writing new text for 100 images will take 1 a min? Are u serious? With no fatigue?
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@ster2lingus @robotcocksucker OpenDyslexia is freely licensed for both personal and commercial use
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@jablabats @Daisythecomic @robotcocksucker Dyslexia font is free online through OpenDyslexia. There’s only ~100 site images that need alt text which even at 1 minute per image is just under 2 hours for a single person to do. And I implemented gif auto play disabling in 6 minutes
This is ridiculous atp
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@Abigail_Nitro @robotcocksucker I timed this. 6 minutes and 8 seconds to implement in the most basic form. I'll take my $28,000 now (since I only added one of the five features that apparently takes $140k to implement) codepen.io/jonbarrow/pen/…
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@Daisythecomic @robotcocksucker no its insanely simple to implement, a single person could do this
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@Abigail_Nitro @robotcocksucker I timed this. 6 minutes and 8 seconds to implement in the most basic form. I'll take my $28,000 now (since I only added one of the five features that apparently takes $140k to implement)
codepen.io/jonbarrow/pen/…
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@robotcocksucker the crazy part is that all the text on the FAQ sites inherits from 1 section in the CSS file
so making another CSS file for dyslexic fonts is about as much work as adding dark mode LOL
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@_NattuNatNat @kurtcobainyaoi @austroraptorfan @Skunksprayz I genuinely can’t tell if you’re being intentionally obtuse about the actual issue or not. Not a single person here gives a shit about them raising money. Everyone knows the site needs money to run. The issue is acting like it costs $140k to add basic accessibility features
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@kurtcobainyaoi @austroraptorfan @Skunksprayz Opendyslexic i lietrally rhe worst fucking font to read on whole fucking globe bffr. Also btw site needs money to run, like all the time. You cant really add smth to site that dont work bc it has no money to run
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I don't really GAF if people are saying "it's not a paywalled thing it's fundraising for the site". These shouldn't be fundraising goals, this should have been implemented into the site in the beginning. Yes it is ableist to make accessibility features a stretch goal 😐😑😐
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@_NattuNatNat @WulfiiWuffs @robotcocksucker I don’t care about them raising money for general site running costs. Raise $1m for all I care if that’s what they think they need. But these accessibility features shouldn’t be tied to any sort of massive crowdfunding
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@_NattuNatNat @WulfiiWuffs @robotcocksucker I counted ~100 site images, even at 1/min per image that’s just under 2 hours for a single person to add the alt text to each site image (which is what they specifically say, site images not UGC)
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@barettorein @cirnochiruno @robotcocksucker OP is calling out that it doesn’t take $140k to implement these basic accessibility features, some of which are mandated by the WCAG, and they shouldn’t be behind any sort of “paywall/stretch goal” of any kind especially as an afterthought a decade after the site launched
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@cirnochiruno @robotcocksucker OP makes it seem like something it isn't. They're not selling features for 140 thousand dollars. It's like a kickstarter with donations and goals
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@WulfiiWuffs @robotcocksucker Artfight started in 2016. They’ve had a decade to implement these extremely basic features, and now it’s locked behind “if we reach this funding goal”. That’s ludicrous and deserves to be called out
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@WulfiiWuffs @robotcocksucker These are extremely basic changes that legitimately would take next to no effort to implement. Not only that, but accessibility features like alt text on images are mandated by the WCAG and enforced by the ADA. This shouldn’t be an afterthought, should have BEEN there
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@whitefrogjim @robotcocksucker A dyslexic-friendly font, alt text on images, and disabling gif auto-play are basic accessibility features. In fact alt text on images is a mandated by the WGAC and the ADA has enforced it before
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@robotcocksucker Since when is a page for art a basic need I’m sobbing
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@idonotlikethi12 @austroraptorfan @Skunksprayz My brother in Christ, the PHP doesn’t mean anything here. These are client side features. They have jack all to do with the backend. And given the fact that you tried to use “they use PHP” as an excuse for missing client side features makes me not really care about your take here
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@idonotlikethi12 @austroraptorfan @Skunksprayz artfight.net/donate these are quite literally stretch goals, just like on sites like kickstarter and such
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@idonotlikethi12 @austroraptorfan @Skunksprayz I have, I’ve read this and the goals page for this year. A breakdown of last year has literally no relevance here. I couldn’t give less of a shit how much money they raise, raise a $1m and do whatever with it. The issue is locking BASIC accessibility behind $140k is unnecessary
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