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@sereneisolation

Rivers and Lakes Beigetreten Kasım 2022
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Azu 🇿ulway, Cornucopian AGZ 📯𒀭
@pplsartofwar It really is revealing that people have what they want to do already in mind, but are looking for any authority, however thin, which will "objectively" give them the "you are so right and valid" answer.
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You can argue they’d be decentralized so they wouldn’t have to be concerned with management of the prior Russian state territory but that leads back into being unable to ward off imperialist invasions.
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I don’t see how an ultra-leftist outcome to the 1917 Revolution doesn’t end with councils unable to feasibly govern/manage a territory as expansive as Russia while simultaneously avoiding being carved up by centralized, imperialist nation-states.
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@JTommins I feel similarly at times since falling very ill once with pneumonia as a child.
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@TheRealVarnVlog Are they LDS or does Utah just contain some sort of energy that produces polygamist relations
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@gamergate2077 From what I’ve read it seems like if anything there was a belief that revolution in Western Europe was largely a prerequisite for successful/sustained revolution elsewhere.
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It's trendy to describe the Bolsheviks as third worldists for whom revolution in Asia was a prerequisite for revolution in Europe but they would not have sold the Turkish communists and the Jangali movement in Iran down the river in the way they did if that was the case.
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@apobac @TheRealVarnVlog Idk what the numbers are but I get the feeling many Americans don’t read much after high school.
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Eggbert Weeks@apobac·
@TheRealVarnVlog Is there a reason that Americans are so obsessed with crap they read in high school? This and the Great Gatsby make regularish appearances in the Twitter discourse.
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@PhilWMagness @lionel_trolling Is this not accurate? Was he well known outside of socialist/revolutionary circles prior to being heavily identified with the Bolsheviks?
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Phil Magness@PhilWMagness·
@lionel_trolling Just wait until you discover what Castro thought about Marx's stature, pre-Lenin...
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John Ganz@lionel_trolling·
haha castro was a frankfurt school conspiracy guy
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@lethic_econ As Vince Staples once said: "This is the place that everybody else is trying to get to. I'm FROM here, so I know it's hell. And if everybody else makes it to California, they're about to push me into the fucking ocean."
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@posta_octavian “The history of communism is just a long, very long list of copes to try to explain why the proletariat is not thinking rationally and isn't coming to the "correct" conclusion of communist revolution.” Is there any writing you know of that focuses on this idea in more detail?
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Octavian 🇪🇺@posta_octavian·
Marx struggled quite a bit with this. The basic assumption of communism is that there's a single, identical, collective interest of the global proletariat by virtue of their relation to capital (as propertyless individuals). The big question for communists then is why isn't the proletariat realising this collective international interest and why aren't they organising as such to pursue their interests as workers. In other words, why aren't they just thinking Rationally Enough to realise it? One problem for Marx was that the English and the Irish proletariat didn't unite or work together, mainly because the English proletariat sided with the empire and wasn't too keen to accept Irish nationalism and saw the Irish as competitors, and the Irish proletariat was on the other hand not too keen about being part of the British Empire. He outright says he expected them to work together, which then didn't happen. Look how he describes in a letter (first pic) to Engels that Irish needs to emancipate itself from the working class, so that the working class focuses on its struggle as the working class, but that he "cannot tell the working class" themselves. Basically, he, Marx, as the great intellectual, knows better than the working class themselves what's good for them, and his job now is to manipulate things in a way that is good for the working class themselves, even if they themselves are not aware of it. Basically he wants to be the catalyst for Hegel's Cunning of Reason. There's constantly all these factors that supposedly prevent the working class from thinking Rationally and doing what's Right (according to Marx). The classic "billionaires tell the English to hate the Irish to divide them" trope was actually thought of by Marx all the way in 1870. The history of communism is just a long, very long list of copes to try to explain why the proletariat is not thinking rationally and isn't coming to the "correct" conclusion of communist revolution. From Stalinist purges and de-kulakisation, to the Maoist cultural revolution, to Adorno and Horkheimer's Culture Industry, to Gramsci's "cultural hegemony"... it's all this. Over and over and over. They simply do not want to accept that there could be genuinely rational and legitimate reasons to not do communist revolutions and build "international solidarity".
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The notion that if everyone on Earth just thought Rationally™ hard enough, they'd all collectively arrive at exactly the same Conclusion is a fantasy that needs to die as soon as possible.

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The World Spirit in a sand-stained Toyota pickup.
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You’re not really excited.
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Passive aggressive exclamation point, self defense scenario.
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Feels similar to when people will bemoan the reserve army of labor and then mock someone for being unemployed. When people do this I think “oh this is just football for you.”
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So far as it means anything, being “normal” means to be more or less well adjusted to the current societal setup. There’s a potential conflict in simultaneously believing the current setup is deeply flawed and that one should be at home in it.
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Sebastian@totemic_·
@maoisthnvx_25 Idk why maoists arbitrarily add a k to America and at this point I’m afraid to ask
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@iycrtylph Reminded me of this
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Over-theorizing is still probably a preferable response to catastrophe than pretending that catastrophe hasn’t occurred.
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