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@thrillhouse01

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thrill@thrillhouse01·
@BUT_I_SAID_THAT you seem to be conflating an argument for getting fair compensation, which i agree with vs the argument based in the reality that the way she went about it was objectively dumb as fuck. but it feels like im going back and forth with a 5th grader so not surprising.
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ADUDEHASNONAME@BUT_I_SAID_THAT·
@thrillhouse01 lol just a bunch of dick mumbles… bootlickers should be aggressively ostracized in a business trying to make art adjacent product dude… get bent, maybe join an IA union, work a decade, and get a valid perspective
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ADUDEHASNONAME@BUT_I_SAID_THAT·
I’ve producer or managed over 30 features, and TV shows, many with studios, and I can say on ULB features (I have done around 8), you can negotiate ways to make people feel taken care of… back-end was offered on a project we did for 400k because rates were 400-550 /day
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thrill@thrillhouse01·
@BUT_I_SAID_THAT i mean i didnt even argue the sentiment, just because you and her seem to possess the same inability to voice your opinion without being an insufferable prick doesn't mean itll magically work in your favor. but maybe im wrong, im sure you'll hire her on your next project 🤷
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thrill@thrillhouse01·
@DerlisAGonzalez @Hwdgfly id put the odds of money in her pocket significantly higher prior to her blacklisting herself from the industry by crying exploitation and expressing regret in not torpedoing the entire production.
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Derlis A. González | Composer
Derlis A. González | Composer@DerlisAGonzalez·
@Hwdgfly If you believe the success of the movie somehow guarentees her a stream of steady jobs for years to come you're more delusional than I thought. The only guarantee is, as Harlan Ellison once said, "money in my pocket."
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Hollywood Gadfly@Hwdgfly·
The insanity of publicly wishing you’d flip a Blumhouse production after it becomes successful is something I still struggle to understand.
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thrill@thrillhouse01·
@itsbrujabitch i think there's having the conversation to encourage backend or bonuses vs framing the whole production as exploitative, and expressing your regret in not 'flipping the production' which would of threatened to torpedo the entire project
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happy pride especially to bis, trans, & aces
happy pride especially to bis, trans, & aces@itsbrujabitch·
She literally said she wanted to open a dialogue about wages/compensation. I feel like everybody forgot how to read. They skim and respond to something they think they read
Matt Jarbo@mjarbo

What exactly does Sally Choi want here? The OBSESSION art director/set decorator says she made $300 a day and less than $7,000 total on the film, which is now heading toward a massive box office run. I get why that stings. But OBSESSION was a $750,000 indie movie. Nobody knew this thing was going to blow up. Nobody was working on a guaranteed studio hit. That is how indie films work. People wear multiple hats. People take lower rates. People gamble on the credit, the experience, the relationships, and the hope that the movie becomes something bigger. This one did. And yes, it sucks when a movie explodes and the below-the-line crew does not share in that upside. But who is supposed to cut the check now? Curry Barker? Focus Features? The producers? The distributor that bought the movie after it was already made? If the ask is backend for indie crews after acquisition, say that. If it is bonus pools, say that. If it is better minimums, say that. But vague “we need to turn this industry around” posting without a clear ask can backfire fast. She did good work. She should use OBSESSION to get better-paying jobs immediately, because that is usually how this business works. But everyone on that movie was gambling. The difference is the gamble actually paid off.

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thrill@thrillhouse01·
@indystryfilms @CBSMornings I would never advise a young artist to utilize AI in their workflow because they'd never gain the necessary skills and expertise of the craft. and I'd never advise an existing expert to use it because you'd ultimately be replacing jobs/tasks required for young artisans to learn.
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CBS Mornings@CBSMornings·
Kane Parsons, the 20-year-old director of the box office-topping film “Backrooms,” is “absolutely not” going to embrace AI, explaining that he doesn’t “see the value in, like, outsourcing” the making of art.
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thrill@thrillhouse01·
@indystryfilms @CBSMornings you can pretend you're an expert costume designer, and spend spend days toiling over a costume prompt. but if you have no fundamental understanding of why one iteration is good or bad beyond vibes then its going to fall flat, and be called slop.
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thrill@thrillhouse01·
@indystryfilms @CBSMornings if you've achieved a level of mastery in anything, the take away should be that there is an incredible level of nuance to learn in every field and take years of mastery. once you cede that to AI what you are left with is arbitrary decision making that lack a nuanced understanding
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thrill@thrillhouse01·
@indystryfilms @CBSMornings the argument you made assumed that you are acutely aware of what is and isn't an "arbitrary' decision. my argument is that an expert of a craft is going to make 1000s of decisions you may otherwise deem arbitrary simply out of ignorance.
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IndyStry@indystryfilms·
Nobody is debating the fact that creating a movie in a room by yourself and a computer is lonely and deprives you of the wonderful feeling that is collaborating with other talented human beings. That wasn't the point I made in the last message but oh well. We were talking about the levels of arbitrary choices that happen to a director vs deliberately choosing every single thing in your frame. I am not in the AI space as my end goal to make films solo but as a place to practice being a shitty storyteller telling bad stories faster so I can maybe one day know enough about telling a story visually that other people want to collaborate with me to make a real film one day.
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thrill@thrillhouse01·
@indystryfilms @CBSMornings i would argue that a wouldnt trust the judgement of a director to make that call if they cant see the value other artists bring. you dont get any of the movies you love without all of the contributions that together result in something far beyond that of a singular vision.
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IndyStry@indystryfilms·
They don't receive arbitrary chaos but they operate in reality where they aren't controlling every aspect of what makes the frame. Some like Kubrick might be crazy fixated on controlling everything and some other generic director might accept what the first version of something was and move on. The level of intent behind choosing what makes the final frame, like in his case, he mentions someone used generative fill to replace a background, I argue that how much of that background matters to that shot and to the character is important. If its a hero element in the background that you replaced with genAI fill, then you have the choice to keep tweaking it until you get the exact thing you wanted but if it is a random garbage can that didn't look period accurate and you used genAI fill to turn it into period accurate garbage can and accepted the first version that came out, that is completely ok.
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thrill@thrillhouse01·
@indystryfilms @CBSMornings except directors don't receive arbitrary artistic chaos, they direct a symphony of talented artists each bringing their own artistic decisions and expression with a level of expertise and insight to their craft far beyond what the director could manage alone.
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IndyStry@indystryfilms·
And while I love this guy and backrooms, the fallacy in his argument lies in that very final line. Thinking generative anything = arbitrary. If anyone spends a decent amount of time with it, you realize it is your role as a director to take the arbitrary chaos of art and focus it through the lens of your vision and build your narrative. Whether you take the infinite possibilities of what a 3D cube in Blender could turn into or what the infinite latent space of any genAI model could turn into. As long as YOU decide and not the machine, then you can continue using it as a tool. But yes, the day you accept the arbitrary outcome of any medium of art (throwing paint on a canvas and accepting the outcome AS IS without modifying or changing it to your vision), then you are contributing to slop and not story.
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thrill@thrillhouse01·
@StatiQfit mfs really out here thinkin they socrates for saying shit like, "dont let your girl fuck someone else, they might leave you."
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thrill@thrillhouse01·
@yeehaw214069210 @ImperiumFirst i like how the defense for every fuck wit maga cuck is, "the party I hated and revolted against did it so its cool if we do it."
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Camden@Camden_Cash·
@peterk0578 Respectfully disagree. Both players swipe down with their arms. Towns is in his shot motion. Wembanyama is contesting. Contact from both. At that point, it should be a no-call. However, Wemby’s arm follows through and connects with KAT’s face. Clear foul. Call should have stood.
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Camden@Camden_Cash·
This was originally called a defensive foul on Wembanyama. The Spurs challenged the call and won, and the refs called Towns for the offensive foul here. That’s a bad review, imo. Arms getting tangled up is marginal. The forearm/elbow to the face is not.
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UMA PALMA@umapalma01·
@Racerz86 this is u doing tricks for a complete stranger
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thrill@thrillhouse01·
@nofacee_b imagine being this performative 😂
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nofacee@nofacee_b·
yeah fucking deadass. @mayahiga is deadass too you clout chasing selfish inconsiderate piece of shit
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thrill@thrillhouse01·
@Edsunnn @hanbee_8 i mean hate all you want just have a reason that doesnt make you a retard or a hypocrite its pretty simple 🙂 have a good one
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hannah@hanbee_8·
I do agree this was a bad content idea. I dont think Jason calling Maya had the malicious intent of shoving it in her face. This was just ignorance and stupidity tbh His mind was probably “ANIMALS = MAYA” without really thinking of the negative connotations, so GROSS is too much
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thrill@thrillhouse01·
@Edsunnn @hanbee_8 "just let me hate on bro for shit i cant be bothered to prove😩" yall got it. actual twitter drone. go read a book or get back in school gang. ur brain aint fully baked yet.
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Edson@Edsunnn·
@thrillhouse01 @hanbee_8 he’s not on fucking trial. he’s not going to die because i criticized his actions towards maya and renting a petting zoo. the fact is a majority of petting zoos are harmful - even if it’s not all them. so it’s valid to critique him for renting one. go take a shower
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