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@MrKrisMcD @DreyfusJames Of course not all change is good but generally the bad changes get removed over time. I think drag humour now can be every bit as entertaining as drag from the past.

@ffenics @DreyfusJames So 'change' is always good, without question and without exception? If you'd been a Victorian - "get with the times mate, small kids are SUPPOSED to clean chimney. Don't be such a dinosaur".

Danny La Rue was a female impersonator. Barry Humphries played Dame Edna as a comedy character. Les Dawson & Roy Barraclough played Cissie & Ada as comedic tributes to the women of their times. Kenny Everett played Cupid Stunt as an OTT American starlet character. Again not drag. Hinge & Bracket were old-school musical vaudevillians. Harris Milstead (Divine) was a character actor & part-time drag queen, whose act wanted to be taken seriously. Lily Savage (Paul O’Grady) was an old-school drag queen, whose act was based on the tough women he grew up with. Regina Fong (Reg Bundy) was another old-school vaudevillian, whose act was camp, very funny & inventive, relying on repetition of a routine that the audience would know & emulate. They’d join in. None of these performers exhibited a deep-rooted loathing for women, & yet are now tarred with the same brush as modern day “drag queens”. You CANNOT compare these artistes with the talentless, runway, slut-dropping, sashaying wannabes, that people refer to as “drag queens” today, many of whom lampoon & degrade women in deeply misogynistic ways. (See Ru Paul’s Drag Race). They are not the same thing. Style-wise, they have much more in common with the various Houses (LaBeija, ‘68, Corey, ‘72, Xtravaganza ‘82, Ninja, ‘82, Ebony ‘78) & the Tea Dances & later the Ballroom Dances of New York, where gay men would dress up & “throw shade”. Learn the difference.

@fifi_ay @DreyfusJames Being able to be out in public and it being more accepted. Compared to 50’years ago people can be out much easier in most western countries. As more drag is shown, more people will decide to do it. It all means more visibility overall.

@ffenics @DreyfusJames What are the “more freedoms” you’re referring to? Also not sure what sort of oppression you’re talking about in a topic about drag queen acts.

@lincologist @HelenWebberley That’s hilarious. You poor thing. I kinda feel sad you are that gullible.

@ffenics @HelenWebberley Tell that to the sodomites! The actual site has been found, it's just not well publicised coz they don't want us to know it's real. Even still got the brimstone.But I'm just trolling now so I'll stop. You win. The fairy Godfather can deal with you. I wish you luck in your crusade

Honestly, what a disgusting photo. Can you imagine being associated with that 🤢🤢

@Tuuula @DreyfusJames Sure you may not like that humour but some do. Drag race isn’t a kids show.

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@lincologist @HelenWebberley Gods a fairy tale! Do you still believe in fairy tales?!

@ffenics @HelenWebberley I didn't, but since you asked, God dealt with Sodom and Gomorrah for their perversions. Maybe you should listen to His message seeing as how I am beaten. Remember....you win.....

@lincologist @HelenWebberley I don’t tell you how to live your life so don’t tell me how to live mine, or anyone elses! There is no such thing as indoctrination into the LGBT+ community. You either are or not. If you aren’t sure, thats down to a lack of information you understand.

@ffenics @HelenWebberley Indoctrination is not education. But anyway, you win, I'll just crawl back into my straighto cis man bigot hole and stfu.....

@lincologist @HelenWebberley You are the issue here, not trans people.

@ffenics @HelenWebberley Are you stupid? All I was trying to say all the way through is that lesbians and gays are at risk of being dragged into a political pushback against this alphabet retardedness. And if gay people do not distance themselves they will only have themselves to blame.

@lincologist @HelenWebberley And I say thats due to people like you, not trans people. We need to distance ourselves from people like you that wish to discriminate based on ‘something you read on the internet’. Or your aversion to a minority group celebrating its existence,

@lincologist @HelenWebberley Everyone makes their own path through life. Poor education is responsible for a lot of people making poor decisions. I advocate for better education. We are all individuals. There is no group of LGBT+ people, we just exist as LGBT+.

@ffenics @HelenWebberley I actually have a very good friend. Normal, not gay. He one day went full on trans, dick off, the works. Now he is just a sad lonely soul. You seem to have missed my point. The alphabet soup does not speak for everyone. Nobody can keep up anyway. Now they include battered women??

@JohnBarrowman Love this!

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@lincologist @HelenWebberley So you are saying you want a gay man that supports trans poeple to be put back in the closet? I think that says more about you than me, snowflake! Are you that concerned you might fancy a trans person or something? Why does that scare you?

@ffenics @HelenWebberley Well 'buttercup' keep up your agenda. The time may come when your ilk will not just be regarded as a harmless freak show but be hunted back into your closet. As I said we mostly tolerate your indulgences, but keep pushing at your peril. Nice chat tho. Good to have a lively debate

@lincologist @HelenWebberley When trans people have been your friends for over 40 years then you aren’t so keen to dump them as you seem to indicate. And no, the very fact trans people can’t change their genotype is what makes them trans. Nobody changes anything, they just are. Trans woman are trans women.

@ffenics @HelenWebberley What am I misinformed about? That a man doesn't become a woman because he says he's a woman? No I don't want to split the alphabet soup. I don't care. My point was IF I was gay, I would vociferously object to being lumped in with many of these letters or pluses.

@lincologist @HelenWebberley If you don’t like Pride, don’t go to Pride events and if seeing a rainbow flag offends you, imagine how seeing heterosexual imagery everywhere feels to us LGBT+ people. Grow up buttercup.

@ffenics @HelenWebberley There is literally thousands of videos of trans people in schools, In parades (globally for a month), libraries, literally anywhere and everywhere often at the behest of councils and boards. And people are fed up with it. Why does it have to be a month of this crap?

@lincologist @HelenWebberley Becuase in many countries LGBT+ people are still persecuted and even murdered for being LGBT+. When I can walk down the street holding my husbands hand without any snide remarks then we might be at a time when Pride is no longer needed.

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@lincologist @HelenWebberley Why do you want to split up the LGBT+ community? As I said, what you call the ++ are just internet trolls. We are being dragged into this, not by trans people but by gender critical people who are severely misinformed, like yourself.

@ffenics @HelenWebberley No they aren't. My point is they are the++ (unnameables)of the alphabet soup. Lgb need to distance themselves as when the inevitable pushback comes they may get dragged into the fight. Which was my initial point.

@lincologist @HelenWebberley Peoples sex lives aren’t on display in public, or at least should not be. Sure there are some extremes on show at places like the Folsom St Fair in San Fran but thats not exactly a public place but an adult event.

@lincologist @HelenWebberley Absolute rubbish. Nobody is trying to normalise pedophilia or beastiality. Pretty sure people who are into poo play aren’t breaking the law. What has someone’s (legal) sexual fetishes got to do with the LGBT+ community anyway. What are you trying to imply?

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