@davidgross_man Like there’s support between Palestinians and Islamists? You’re playing games you will always lose.
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The Azur
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It's a coincidence, but I can't help but notice that this comes just after Tennessee signed its "Judea and Samaria" bill. It's almost like there's international support and solidarity between supporters of apartheid and disenfranchisement
The Associated Press@AP
Tennessee’s governor signs into law a new U.S. House map that carves up a majority-Black district in Memphis. apnews.com/article/redist…
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@GeffenAvraham PLO didn't demand Israel to recognize the Arabness of Palestine, but of course you see an issue in that Palestinians and Jews would be equals in Israel because you're a Jewish supremacist
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Besides anything, Israel didn't demand that Jordan, Egypt, or even the UAE recognize Israel as a Jewish state.
That demand is relatively new and is explicitly used only against Palestinians to stall the peace negotiations, *despite* the PLO having recognized Israel as a state.
David Grossman@davidgross_man
Just for the record, this isn't the question. Nobody asks if Israel "has the right to exist," which the PLO agreed to in 1988. The question is if Israel has a right to exist "as a Jewish state" without changing its legal framework of apartheid and Jewish supremacy.
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@DraidenForUtd @mastikim You’re the one thinks US is going to nuclear war with Israel. I think it’s clear to anyone who’s retarded, and it’s not me.
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the left genuinely believes israel can be dissolved by way of retarded virtue signaling. they’re unaware that israel has a nuclear triad, a thriving economy, an above replacement tfr & is in the vanguard of high tech innovation, or simply think they can magically wish that away
༄ cait 🪷@caitevergreene
normalising the mention of israel is harmful in itself, as she is giving them a chance to be recognised.
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@DraidenForUtd @mastikim How popular do you think Saudi Arabia or Qatar are with Americans?
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@BreeEsq @joshuarolson @GarySpedding Yes, most diasporic(!) Jews have a connection with Israel and support it, doesn’t mean it’s the exactly same thing. Ethnic Russians all have a connection with Russia, but are not “Russia”. What exactly is so hard for you to understand? Israel is not “the Jews”, but it is Jewish.
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If a left-wing group or organisation came together to organise a protest/march/rally against antisemitism while also ensuring that Israel advocacy was not part of such an event would it still receive broad support or would there be nasty sneering and wild comments?
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@DraidenForUtd @mastikim Ah yes, vibes and feels of the day, the corner stone of foreign policy since like, never. You do smart.
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@souljagoyteller Dishonest as always. Jews flocked to Israel because the world literally could not stop killing them, the end. Nobody reverse engineered anything. Zionism was a reaction, not an action.
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It’s so obviously reverse engineered to justify the existence of Israel. Imagine how people would react if, say, Assyrians did their own Nakba in Syria
Kamil Galeev@kamilkazani
The idea that you can "return" to your "ancestral homeland" after 3,000 years, killing and displacing its current inhabitants, is absurd and incompatible with the international peace. Being unacceptable as a general principle, it is unacceptable in this particular case as well
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@souljagoyteller Kosovo is actually worse. You should not be taken seriously.
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If you think that countries like Kosovo and Albania are “Muslim countries” in the same way Israel is a “Jewish country”, you immediately present yourself as someone that shouldn’t be taken seriously
Luai Ahmed@JustLuai
Jews have one country - and that’s a problem. Muslims have 57 countries - and that’s not a problem. In fact, Muslims are slowly turning Western countries Muslim - and that’s not a problem either.
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@DerekPederson3 Right-wing Zionists take Palestinians very seriously, actually. It’s right they see them as barbaric, but the consensus is not that they are impotent. Ineffective, yes, weak, no.
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I think the tendency to underestimate the Palestinians is a mistake made both by leftists (who see them as hapless, pathetic victims) and right-wing Zionists (who see then as stupid, impotent barbarians).
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@joshuarolson @GarySpedding Literally no Jewish person ever claimed that Jews and Israel are exactly the same thing, including Bibi. You’re full of shit and most likely a racist that feels it’s okay now to be a Jew hating cunt. Eat shit.
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@GarySpedding I'm sorry - you're saying that having a steady, incessant message from high profile Jewish leaders, the media and politicians that Jews and Israel are the same thing doesn't have any impact on antisemitism?
I'm engaging with you in good faith, but you can't possibly be serious.
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"we love b-mbing israel!"
> both live in Canada
> both pay taxes in support of Israel
> Yemen got turned to dust
> both would cry like dogs if they were sent back to their countries
Hasan 👁🗨@flackospalace
Helped out a Yemeni customer at work and I said “I love Yemeni people because they bomb Isr*el” and he looked at me like this
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Look at the replies to this tweet. A good chunk of the left now has rhetoric indistinguishable from groypers. There is no world in which anyone can say “it’s just antizionism not antisemitism” anymore, that is simply untrue. Much of the left just hates Jewish people.
Brian@Is_Not_Brian
I thought this was a joke man I had to see it for myself.
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@Lux_Stella_ At a certain point Western leftists will have to confront the fact that Palestinians do not want to stop the conflict unless that involves the eradication of Israel.
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at a certain point liberal institutions will have to confront the fact the only way to stop the israel-palestine conflict from poisoning western politics is to stop the israel-palestine conflict
J Street@jstreetdotorg
Two things can be true: Protests that glorify violence, wave Hezbollah flags and chant for the destruction of Israel are wrong. Using our synagogues to promote home sales in West Bank settlements is also wrong. We can simultaneously reject incitement and the occupation. We can stand for the safety of Jewish communities and the rights of Palestinians. nytimes.com/2026/05/05/nyr…
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@mehdirhasan Poll after poll literally show that Palestinians do not favor either of the two. Can you just not lie for once?
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Total lie here. Palestinians have a multiplicity of views on whether a Palestinian state should exist as part of a two state solution vs, say, a binational state in which Jews and Palestinians live side by side in one state etc.
John Aziz@aziz0nomics
Polanski's argument that all people have a right to exist, but no state has a right to exist is cribbed from Francesca Albanese. But I am confident both would say that Palestine has a right to exist. They'd get shouted down by their own supporters if they said Palestine doesn't.
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@jakesgoodopines @AmirFraiberg Jewish friends and family all around me are discussing about Aliyah and it’s all about safety, so this is out of touch.
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@AmirFraiberg and North American/Anglosphere Jews who move to Israel tend to be the most psychotic of them all, since they’re generally moving for pure political/religious motivation and not for quality of life/money/safety
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yeah it’s getting increasingly difficult to criticize any part of protesting these
Rosa Goldensohn@RosaGoldensohn
The real estate show at Park East synagogue featured promotions for multiple settlements in different locations across the West Bank. Brochures:
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@jakesgoodopines You think it would fly to protest in front of a mosque because of literally anything? Come on, let’s be real. Furthermore, nothing illegal about it according to US law.
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Framing Palestinians liberation as being essential for "Jewish safety" is disgustingly racist.
Israelis will never, and should never feel safe until the occupation of Palestine is dismantled.
If liberation comes at the expense of their jewish captors, then so be it.
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@3mbxr @SPG_UKDK @Hezbolsonaro Majority of Jews in Israel are descendants of refugees escaping Europe, North Africa or the Middle East you demented nitwit.
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Correct. Palestinians have the right to self-determination. Whether they choose an independent Palestinian state, or to be part of a Greater Syria project, or a united Arab republic, or any other arrangement, is up to them.
Mark Wallace@wallaceme
So, er, Palestine doesn’t have a right to exist? Am I doing this right?
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@3mbxr @SPG_UKDK @Hezbolsonaro The Zionist project was to escape from ghoulish freaks like you that want to kill Jews and call it justice, you uneducated ignorant cunt.
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@SPG_UKDK @Hezbolsonaro The goal of the Zionist project was to pull Jewish people out of the diaspora and create a united people for the purpose of self determination. The problem is that this was done on someone else’s land and was legitimized do to European settler colonialism and the holocaust.
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@DraidenForUtd @mastikim Sure, when Palestinians have something to offer as an ally except death, hate, Islam and chaos. Any minute now.
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@mastikim Agreed that dismantling Israel isn't viable.
Which is why instead a future anti-Zionist US admin will use the full might of western liberal civilization and it's military industrial complex to flatten Israel's cities until it agrees to a 2SS on the 67 borders.
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