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@tonofdunks @middott1 @cameron_arcand @townhallcom The Gulf dictatorships are paying Iran hundreds of billions in protection money because America got spanked.

@legitbrittFLA @middott1 @cameron_arcand @townhallcom No, if I were that I'd be doing things like posting bad Grok screenshots.

@Tildiditagain2 @middott1 @cameron_arcand @townhallcom Are you retarded

A SENIOR UNITED STATES OFFICIAL HAS READ OUT THE IRAN MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. @townhallcom WAS ON THE CALL: - The United States of America, and Islamic Republic of Iran, and their allies in the current war, by signing this MOU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and other provisions of this paragraph. - The United States of America, the Islamic Republic of Iran, undertake to respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity, and to refrain from interfering in each other's internal affairs. - The United States of America, and the Islamic Republic of Iran commits to negotiating and achieving the final deal in maximum 60 days – extendable with mutual consent. - Immediately upon the signing of this MOU, the United States of America will begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and will fully end the Naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic of vessels will be in proportion to the numbers of pre-war traffic being restored by the Islamic Republic of Iran, the United States of America, further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the final deal. - Upon the signing of this, MOU, the Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge for 60 days only from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman, and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start in considering the needs for removing the technical and military obstacles and de-mining by the Islamic Republic of Iran will be initiated within 30 days, the Islamic Republic of Iran will conduct dialogue with Sultaness of Oman to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Homruz discussion with other Persian gulf [...] states in line with the applicable international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz. - The United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of a final deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers, and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America. - The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council Resolution, i.e. IAEA Board of Governor's Resolution, and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, primary and secondary, and an agreed upon schedule as part of the final deal. The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The United States of America, and the Islamic Republic of Iran, have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpile enriched material, pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon, in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph 7, with a minimum methodology to be down blending on site, under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to the economical public of Iran's nuclear need, based on the satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final deal. The final deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph.  - The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran, acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues above mission, and express their attention to immediately address these issues in the negotiation in order to achieve mutual agreement on them. - Pending the final deal, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree to maintain the status quo. The Islamic Republic of Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program, and the United States of America will not impose any new sanctions and will not deploy additional forces in the region. - The United States of America undertakes, but immediately upon the signing of this MOU, and until the termination of sanctions, the U.S. Department of Treasury will issue waivers for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products and derivatives and all associated services including banking, transactions, insurances, transportation, etc. - The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use, the frozen, or restricted funds, and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of the MOU, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will usually agree on the procedures related to the relief of these funds during the negotiation. Such funds, whether retained in the original accounts or transferred, government may be fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designated by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all necessary licenses and authorizations accordingly. - The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree that an executive mechanism will be established to monitor the successful implementations of MOU and the future compliance of the final deal. After signing the MOU, and subject to the beginning of the implementation of paragraphs 1, 4, 5, 10, and 11 of this MOU, and the continuing implementation of these measures, the United States of America, and the Islamic Republic of Iran, will start negotiations regarding the final deal exclusively on the other paragraphs. - The final deal will be endorsed by a binding [United Nations Security Council] resolution.

@PincherMartin8 @wildlowerwolves No, it really isn't. All this "will" talk is just copium.

@Tildiditagain2 @wildlowerwolves Ability is the easy part; it's mustering the will to properly do it that's difficult.

To those of you who are upset at what Trump is (apparently) agreeing to with Iran, what do you want him to do? Trump just hit Iran as hard as any U.S. president ever has over the last fifty years. In fact, he hit it harder than the six presidents before him combined. But the regime is still in power and still not giving us anything. So what's your plan? If Trump extends the blockade, the global and U.S. economies will both continue to weaken and there is still no guarantee, nor even the likelihood, that an extension will get any positive results. All you will have done is extend the status quo of economic pain, probably to the point of contraction, for no tangible purpose. On the other hand, if Trump goes to war to overthrow the regime, he needs public support, congressional authorization, and allied help in the region - all three of which he is highly unlikely to get without a massive mobilization and perhaps not even then. Would you support him in achieving those aims? Because that would require you to become permanent lobbyists on behalf of the Trump administration over the next several months. I highly doubt many of you have it in you, since I know most have supported his administration even less than I have. I warned you when this war started that your lack of preparation showed you were hoping for a fortuitous outcome that was out of our control. And that's exactly what you got.

@SteveSCurry @bonchieredstate You're hallucinating.

@bonchieredstate The Iranian regime is going to fall probably in 2 or 3 years. They were weak before the war and are much weaker now. The USA was never going to do a ground invasion. This is a process.

One thing I'll agree on about the $300B fund for Iran is that it's unlikely to fully happen. Countries and "investors" aren't lined up to sink billions into a terror regime that can seize their investments at the drop of a hat. What that means for some "deal," who knows.

@bonchieredstate The Gulf monarchies already have their checkbooks out. Iran is getting that money.

@lagrangecreek @realRelaxBuddy @cameron_arcand @townhallcom America lost the war, buddy. The loser doesn't typically get much.

@realRelaxBuddy @cameron_arcand @townhallcom How is it not? We got nothing. Zilch. Nada. 12 of 14 points begin with "The United States commits". Iran committed to nothing.

@middott1 @cameron_arcand @townhallcom America got spanked and has to pay reparations.

@cameron_arcand @townhallcom This is insanity... "United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran."

@PincherMartin8 @wildlowerwolves No, I don't believe it. I think Iran's stockpile is higher than that, because they've been doing drone and missile assembly in their underground military facilities.

@Tildiditagain2 @wildlowerwolves CENTCOM said they are not accurate. Are you suddenly a believer in U.S. intelligence claims or only when they ride shotgun with your delusions?

@PincherMartin8 @wildlowerwolves I'm not going to explain basic strategy to you. Are you saying you doubt the US Intelligence estimate that Iran still has around 70% of its pre-war missile stockpile and mobile launchers?

@Tildiditagain2 @wildlowerwolves Settled in for a long war? If they have stockpiles of their magic weapons, why would they need to skimp on in week four?

@PincherMartin8 @wildlowerwolves I'm not a rube who believes in all those fables about accidents. Sure, some were. Some. Not sure why you think that 13,000 number is relevant.

Not over Iran, we haven't. But if you want to be comprehensive, we have lost 42 planes altogether, including to friendly fire and non-hostile accidents. We have over 13,000 military aircraft in our inventory, so Iran would have to triple its tally to get to one percent of our military aircraft.

@PincherMartin8 @wildlowerwolves 1. We've lost more aircraft than that. 2. We've been using standoff ammunition from a safe distance, and the stocks of such are low. Getting closer is going to result in planes being shot down. 3. The threat against desalination plants renders the Gulf states impotent.

You clearly don't understand what escalation dominance is. Hitting desalination plants in small Arab kingdoms who aren't even directly involved in the war ain't it. "And you'd likely end up losing a lot of aircraft." LOL! We've lost like two aircraft to hostile fire over Iran.

@PincherMartin8 @wildlowerwolves Iran's attack rate diminished because they settled in for a long war. They've destroyed billions in US military equipment that can't be easily replaced. Once they utilized the Hormuz Weapon, there wasn't much of a need to pound anyone other than in retaliation.

@wildlowerwolves That's not it. Iran's missile and drone attacks diminished significantly over the course of the war, even against both U.S. military bases and other assets and Israel.

@PincherMartin8 @wildlowerwolves No, it really isn't. Yes, you could hit those things in Iran and hurt them, but they hold escalation dominance. That's how they won this war, after all. And you'd likely end up losing a lot of aircraft.

@Tildiditagain2 @wildlowerwolves Sure it is. If Iran starts hitting civilian infrastructure in non-belligerent states, then their power plants, dams, bridges, irrigation systems, water supplies, etc., can be hit, too, and quite easily.

@PincherMartin8 @wildlowerwolves Nameless leaders? WTF are you talking about? Iran is a modern state with institutions, not some medieval monarchy. Do you think the ghost of Khamenei is imposing these humiliating surrender terms on Trump from beyond the grave?

@Tildiditagain2 @wildlowerwolves LOL! Which nameless leaders, who you can't identify, are imposing these terms because their predecessors are all dead?

@CCantonii @PincherMartin8 You're hilarious. Feel free to charge that beach yourself, Private Ryan.

@PincherMartin8 Invade and occupy the Iranian side of Hormuz. Yes it would be difficult but it's so much better than total defects

@PincherMartin8 @wildlowerwolves No it isn't. Iran won this war handily, and the surrender terms being imposed by them reflect that.

@Tildiditagain2 @wildlowerwolves I've been paying attention and your characterization of the conflict is full of shit.

@PincherMartin8 @wildlowerwolves You don't seem to be aware of how utterly dependent the Gulf nations are on fragile desalination plants, without which which many of those states would be essentially uninhabitable. That's not the case for Iran.

No, it wouldn't. You exaggerate the potential leverage because any such attack would result in the same thing happening in Iran, but on a more massive scale and with less ability for the Iranians to quickly repair the damage. And you're flat out wrong about Iran's nuclear program. ACCORDING TO THE IRANIANS THEMSELVES, they began enriching uranium to 60% in 2021, a level which has no civilian purpose. Such HEU can be used as a crude nuclear weapon if delivered in a cargo container or the like. This stockpile of what is not half a ton of material supposedly buried in the desert was the spark that eventually lit the ongoing war.

@PincherMartin8 @wildlowerwolves Raw damage isn't the issue. And maybe you haven't been paying attention, but Iran just gave a decisive conventional answer to not one, but two nuclear-armed powers.

@wildlowerwolves This is completely wrong. One weak but well-placed nuke would do a lot more damage than all of Iran's 6,000 missiles and drone attacks launched over the last several months. There is no conventional answer to a solid nuclear deterrent, which explains why Iran seeks it.

@PincherMartin8 @wildlowerwolves You can have all the REASONS you want. ABILITY is what's lacking.

@wildlowerwolves But why isn't that more region to remove the threat now?

@OferIdels @amirtibon You're delusional. People criticize and hate Israel because it's a genocidal rogue state that constantly commits crimes against humanity and is filled with bloodthirsty ethnosupremacists who push for Lebensraum through ethnic cleansing and extermination.

@amirtibon ועדיין יש עוד מדינות. כן. נתניהו כושל. הרסני וחסר אחריות. אבל הביקורת או השנאה לישראל היא בעיקר שיקוף של משברים פנימים במדינות שונות. שלא לומר אנטישמיות.

הישראלים שמתגוללים עכשיו על טראמפ, פשוט חיים בסרט ולא מודעים למציאות. טראמפ, תאהבו או לא, הוא המנהיג המשמעותי היחיד בעולם כולו שעדיין תומך בישראל. האחרון. הוא בסבירות מאד גבוהה גם הנשיא האמריקאי האחרון שיתמוך בנו בלי הסתייגויות ודרישות. כמו שביידן היה אחרון הדמוקרטים הפרו-ישראלים (ועדיין חטף ים קללות והשמצות מהתנועה הביביסטית הבורה) גם במפלגה הרפובליקאית יש שינוי עמוק ביחס לישראל. אפילו מרקו רוביו הפרו-ישראלי הזהיר את טראמפ לפני ההרפתקה האיראנית שנתניהו משקר לו. על ואנס אין צורך להרחיב. טראמפ הוא האדם היחיד שעומד בין ישראל לסנקציות בינלאומיות קשות וכואבות על רקע המלחמות הארוכות, ארוכות מדי, בעזה ולבנון. מלחמות שלא הביאו ביטחון לא בדרום ולא בצפון, ולא השמידו את חמאס וחיזבאללה, אבל השמידו ועוד איך את המעמד הבינלאומי של ישראל והפכו אותה למדינה בלי חברים ובלי תמיכה, חוץ מאיש אחד, מבוגר וקצת הזוי, שעדיין שבוי בתפיסות ישנות של ישראל כמדינה פופולארית וממשיך לתמוך בנו. בינתיים. אז לכתוב ולשדר כמה הוא נורא ולוזר וכדומה זה פשוט מעשה אובדני. מי יגן על ישראל בזירה העולמית, סטארמר? מקרון? אפילו מלוני החצי-פשיסטית כבר מאשימה אותנו בפשעי מלחמה. גם הממשלה השמרנית בגרמניה מראה סימני ייאוש ומיאוס. האסטרטגיה הכי כושלת של נתניהו, יותר אפילו מ"חיזוק החמאס" שהביא עלינו את טבח אוקטובר, היא אסטרטגיית "טראמפ ואין בלתו". נתניהו שרף את כל הגשרים לצד הדמוקרטי באמריקה; ירק בפרצוף של היהודים האמריקאים עשרות פעמים; הפקיר את זירת התודעה בארה"ב ובעולם כולו; עלה על העצבים לכל מנהיגי אירופה כולל הימנים ביותר; איכזב את מנהיגי המדינות הסוניות שלקחו הימור על התקרבות לישראל; והשאיר אותנו לבד, לבד, לבד, עם טראמפ בלבד. אותו טראמפ שהחסידים הטיפשים של נתניהו מקללים ומשמיצים עכשיו. "אחריי המבול".