@Zonal_Marking@nickrossbrasil How can be two semifinals more than extra runners-up medal? How many quarterfinals that would be? How many group stage exits? That math does not add up.
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@NorthJaco41999@BritishTaiga@anon_opin Good. So expat is really just fancy sticker for emigrant or economic migrant as I thought. British doctor moving abroad for better pay is not economic migrant, it’s expat. Businessman moving to Dubai for better taxes, not economic migrant, expat. Thanks. Makes perfect sense.
When the UK is talking about them they are foreigners, immigrants, migrants, invaders, whatever you want to call them. It is up to the home nation from whence they came what they call them in that specific country. The word expat doesn't apply as they are already in the arrival category.
It's been said before, but bears repeating. If you're a UK citizen and live in Dubai/Spain/ anywhere not the UK, then you're not an "expat". You're an immigrant. Fucking double standard Daily Mail cunts.
@NorthJaco41999@BritishTaiga@anon_opin Ok. Understood now, all those who emigrated to UK, there are not emigrants or economic migrants. They are all expats.
@_between_this_@BritishTaiga@anon_opin Not true, we have a word for people who have left and people who have come.
To us, a french man who has left france for England is a expat of France and a migrant to the UK.
@NorthJaco41999@BritishTaiga@anon_opin It means both. It does not mean necessarily that it is by personal choice. Language change, but as I said, only Brits will insist that they are not emigrants BUT expats.
@_between_this_@BritishTaiga@anon_opin So refuse to return is not exile, it's personal choice. Thanks for clarifying you was wrong and that language changes.
@NorthJaco41999@BritishTaiga@anon_opin That original sense it’s still there. Expatriate is someone who can’t or refused to return.
But that word was hijacked by Brits who refuse to call themselves emigrants or economic migrants, so they can feel better about themselves.
@NorthJaco41999@BritishTaiga@anon_opin In original sense it means exactly that, someone who is exiled. You can look up etymology of the word. Modern British use is just fancy sticker for emigrant/migrant.
@_between_this_@BritishTaiga@anon_opin No it's doesn't it means they are no longer a patron of the country.
Someone banished from their homeland is exiled.
@BritishTaiga@anon_opin Brit living in Spain is not expat. He/she is emigrant or economic migrant.
Expat means someone who was expatriated, from latin ex+patria. Meaning he/she was banished from homeland and is forbidden to return.
@anon_opin Another person who doesn’t understand definitions and different points of view.
From British View
Brit living in Spain - Expat
Spanish living in Britain - Immigrant
From Spanish View
Brit living in Spain - Immigrant
Spanish living in Britain - Expat
@scottjwillis I think legally club doesn’t even know he was investigated. By UK law person under investigation can’t be named. It’s against law to discuss or link somebody name to investigation.
I have been asked several times what I would have done and I can honestly say I don't know. It is not my area of expertise, especially not being English and having an understanding of what is permissible under the law.
I can sympathize that this is not an easy situation to navigate for the club. This is a serious accusation but one where players are potentially also targets for false claims. It is a situation that is unfortunately, often one party's word against the other. On the outside, we have even less information to go on and trying to make the right choice is impossible and you can't make everyone happy.
I do still think that there are important questions that can be asked here of the club about this situation and about how things could be handled in the future.
- Has the clubs policy or contract language on these situations of a player being arrest for rape/sexual assulat/serious crimes been updated in the aftermath of this?
- Partey was not suspended by the club, was that considered at all? If so, why didn't the team go that direction?
- Would there be any situation that would have risen to the level that a suspension would have been the corrrect action?
- Has there been any additional teaching or guidence that the club has done now for players in light of this? Is there any additional support that will be given here?
- Did the club do any sort of consideration about how he was included in PR and club media after the arrest? Would they make any changes or different decisions on that now that they know the outcome? Will they update their policy going forward?
- Will the club consider making a motion to the Premier League to have a League set way of dealing with these kinds of situations? This specific case was about an Arsenal player but they are far from the only club where this has happened.
I am sure that there are plenty more that can be come up with and people would like to understand better. Just a quick list a bit off the top of my head.
Now that he can officially be named and talked about I do hope that there are more questions asked to the club about how they handled the situation with Thomas Partey. This cannot be just swept under the rug and forgotten about now that his contract as expired, especially with him seemingly very close to a renewal up to a few weeks ago.
I understand it was a delicate situation with legal landmines but it felt like it was not handled in a way that matches what should be expected from the club.