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Amit Patel

@bloopmit

Tokenmaxxer trying to figure out the future of work and markets. Slopfed engineer @finchlegal

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Amit Patel
Amit Patel@bloopmit·
@Aella_Girl @avi_eisen So your ideal direction for society was “smart people who steer in the correct direction”? Isn’t that just a tautology? Obviously we would hope the people who run society make good decisions
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Aella@Aella_Girl·
1. Smart people are often, if not usually, very irrational. I grew up with a mid-140s-IQ-tested dad who believed in Biblical literalism. Intelligence is just a powerful engine, it says very little about your ability to steer. 2. Most prestige in our civilization is built around powerful engines. You get good test scores, pass hard classes, you are 'smart', and we stamp you with phDs and titles like Economist or whatever. 3. (Having well-rounded skills can help but does not save you. You can be a charming top-tier artist who still falls for a crypto scam). 4. Our civilization has very little explicit study into being *rational* - which is, imo, something like 'holding true beliefs'. You might be like 'well 'true' is relative', it's people just disagreeing about values all the way down - but I think this is wrong! There *is* such a thing as 'correct' - you can do things like cure cancer or lift people out of poverty, those are real things! 5. If we want to optimize for people steering in correct directions, we might do things like "have them make predictions about the way things will go, and then track how accurate they are." We might force them to "make beliefs pay rent", where you regularly put your beliefs into positions with high stakes so you can't just conveniently 'not notice' when you're wrong. There's a *ton* of stuff to do in this domain that is completely abandoned by people in academia (though you can find it in stuff like investment funds where they actually end up hurting if they're wrong). 5. When I say smart *and* rational, I mean people who are very good at steering in correct directions, with enough power to get there. I don't think most people in this culture even have a conception of these as meaningfully different!
Aella@Aella_Girl

If all the smartest+most rational ppl got their own civilization on it would be LEAGUES better than this one, just more functional in ways we can't even imagine, and like 90% of it would be downstream of their ability to understand incentives and ripple effects

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Amit Patel
Amit Patel@bloopmit·
@nico_laqua @karrisaarinen Is that why you spent your entire interview self-mythologizing instead of talking about the insurance industry?
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nico laqua@nico_laqua·
The bigger problem with startups and the culture of innovation in general is that there’s a pervasive nihilism that nothing really matters, that companies and technologies can’t do good or make the world better, that chasing money is the solution. And that’s expressed in the visceral reaction that people have to going all in, to trying to be ambitious, to trying to do important work. It’s a bit like de-growth as a philosophy, which might be pretty zen, but isn’t the way that the world becomes a better place.
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nico laqua
nico laqua@nico_laqua·
Maybe that culture is fine for you at linear, and it looks like it’s working great for you! You’ve created something worth over a billion dollars in 7 short years, that’s something very few people on the planet have done before. But sometimes there are big problems that need solving, and there is more creative thinking, not less, that happens with contact with the big problems. In our case, creating the financial operating system that owns the creation, transfer, financing, and investment of risk, using AI to automate the paperwork of the most regulated entities to make every business and person a little more profitable, waste a lot less time, and be more protected, is a big problem. Maybe there were super geniuses at the Manhattan Project working 1 day per week like zen masters. I doubt it though, because if you’re obsessed with a problem, you work hard. Nowhere did I or do I glorify lack of sleep (I always think sleeping right and exercise are very important), and different people have different visions, cadences, and ways they want to run their companies. And that’s ok, but you attacking our style based upon sound bites when we are solving a really important problem, by market sizing probably the biggest problem large language models can solve, isn’t it.
Karri Saarinen@karrisaarinen

The fallacy of this is that more creates more. More hours, more hiring, more something. And it is true in a sense. If you put in more work, more work will happen. But I think for most startups, the leverage is really in how differently you approach the problem, how well you cultivate your team, and the strategy. Any large company can outspend you on hours. They have thousands or tens of thousands more people, spending more hours. If hours worked were the metric, every large company and government organization would always win and do the best work. More hours, better output. This thinking is often representative of younger founders, where the startup becomes their identity and life. They have a hard time doing anything else, and cannot understand that your work is not the person that is you. But activities outside of work can grow you as a person too and make you do better work. I’ve never worked this way. As a designer, I always saw the need to take a step back, to take a break. At times, I might work 12 hours or 16 hours, or whatever amount was needed, but it wasn’t the norm. You just can't grind design, you need inspiration. But taking that step away from the work, would give me more perspective, inspiration and I could approach the problem differently or I could just see the solution. Grinding is never good for any creative problem, and startups or creating new products are often mostly about creative problem solving. Grinding works ok for email jobs, or where you just executing on very clear playbook. With Linear, we’ve never worked this way. We work reasonable hours, 5 days a week. All of us founders have families. Many of our employees have families. I personally stop every evening, spend time with the family, cook dinner for the family, eat dinner together, and focus on things outside of work. Sometimes I work in the late evenings or weekends, but to me the pride is that I don’t need to. Company should be succesful without it. My goal is to build a company that is sustainable in the long term, and doesn’t require heroics or personal sacrifices every single day. There are times when our team is heroic. Launches, incidents, some other work that just needs to be done. They will work late into the night because they know it is the right thing. But we don’t require that every day or every week, and the more this happens, the more I think it is a failure of our company and leadership. The team and the leaders should always keep a reserve to use when something is needed. Our thinking was also that quality, which we value, doesn’t emerge from working more or stressing people more. It emerges when you create the conditions for it to emerge. Often it is the appreciation, space, time, and how the person feels. A person who is rested will do better work. I wouldn’t attribute much of our success to working a lot. The success came from having clear thinking, ideas, and focus to do the right things. I sometimes wish we could move the culture more toward a Zen master. Real mastery is not exerting the most effort. It is achieving the outcome with the least necessary effort.

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Amit Patel
Amit Patel@bloopmit·
@blc_16 @AnthropicAI Please regale us with stories of working 7 days a week producing an unprecedented amount of slop!
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Ben Cohen@blc_16·
I’ve decided to leave @AnthropicAI Never thought I’d say this so soon. The pursuit of AGI has truly been my life’s work but something more important has emerged. In 1942, hundreds of America’s best scientists made huge sacrifices and joined the Manhattan Project to protect this nation against immense evil. Today, America faces a similar danger. Over the last few years sparks of AGI have been felt across the world. In order to protect this great nation against the threat of AGI ending up in the hands of evil, I have decided to join the modern day Manhattan Project. I’m excited to announce that I’ll be joining (and moving into the office) @UseCorgi as a sales development representative!
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Amit Patel
Amit Patel@bloopmit·
My favorite part of this whole controversy is how little time (literally 0 - it seems) was actually dedicated to insurance in this interview. If insurance is why you work 7 days a week/20 hours a day, you'd think it would be more of an interview topic? Why not talk about what you want to fix instead of hagiography and "Alexander and Napoleon"? I think what people responded to negatively here wasn't "I work hard" it was "I work hard for the sake of talking about working hard"
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Harry Stebbings
Harry Stebbings@HarryStebbings·
"If you are not working 7 days per week, you are going to lose". Corgi Insurance is the most intense workplace culture in startups. - The company works 7 days per week. - Founder (@nico_laqua) lives and sleeps in the office. - He built a cafe in the office because there was no local cafe that was open 24/7. - 2/3 of the first 30 team members have the Corgi logo as a tattoo. Today I went behind the scenes with Nico, who has used this culture to scale the company to a $2.6BN valuation in just two years. My condensed notes below: 1. If You Are Not Working 7 Days Per Week, You Are Going to Lose: Whatever you can get done in 5 days, you'll get more done in 6 and 7. If you are trying to solve the world’s hardest problems, a standard 5-day workweek will not cut it. 2. Work Trials Repel the Mediocre: Corgi forces candidates into mock work trials over the weekend. If seeing a full office on a Saturday scares them, they don't belong. True intensity acts as a natural filter to attract killers and repel clock-watchers. 3. Lead from the Front Lines You can’t demand 7-day weeks while sitting on a yacht. Nico sleeps 3–4 hours a night on a mattress inside the office. If you want your troops to bleed, you have to be in the trenches with them. 4. Culture Only Means One Thing: Winning Forget superficial jargon like "hackers" or "ex-founders." Strip away the corporate fluff. A great startup culture is aggressively optimized around one single word: Winning. 5. Lifespan vs. Victories Building something world-historic requires radical sacrifice. When asked if he'd rather build a trillion-dollar company and die at 50, or fail and live to 80, the answer was easy. "I would rather measure my lifespan in victories." 6. Reject the Comfort of "Quiet Quitting." If you are operating in a hyper-growth environment and your days off happen to be Saturday and Sunday every single week, you are quiet quitting. To win, you must deliberately bypass the off-ramps of personal comfort and low volatility. Corgi isn't for everyone—and that’s exactly the point.
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Amit Patel
Amit Patel@bloopmit·
@martin_casado doesn’t this sort of assume that training an equal quality model isn’t getting more efficient over time? The whole point is that the same capability that costs $2B now might cost $200M in a year
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martin_casado@martin_casado·
Can someone explain to me how open source models can keep up if ... - pre-training isn't saturated - it costs $2-4B to train a current gen model - distillation is increasingly hard as access to the most powerful models gets blocked .. ?
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Neil Sachdeva
Neil Sachdeva@neil_sachdeva·
In two weeks the eng team at Finch is transforming our office into a speakeasy with great drinks, wonderful company, and a little Gatsby-esque glamour. We are always looking to meet and talk to talented folks, so bring your engineering friends along! Help us find our next Daisy! (RSVP link in comments)
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Amit Patel
Amit Patel@bloopmit·
@TMTLongShort @pmarca Isn’t a lot of housing a permit / intentionally exclusionary thing? Like US housing supply sucks because homeowners want to protect their bags. Would love it if AI could solve that but wonder if people’s need for artificial scarcity is something we can automate around
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Just Another Pod Guy
Just Another Pod Guy@TMTLongShort·
We are going to deflate the cost of the following things on a like-for-like basis over the next seven years by roughly 90%: Healthcare Education Housing Transportation Sex If we still have socialism at the end of this something has gone horribly wrong.
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Amit Patel
Amit Patel@bloopmit·
This is a strange tweet from someone who used to be at a quant firm and is now making an exchange designed for quants to trade on. Genuinely curious - would you not want Optiver or Jane Street to support and use your product? What purpose do perps serve besides facilitating more speculative order flow for quants to trade against?
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ak0@annanay·
Quant is the new IB. Eager to please type A’s coached through ‘finance clubs’ who update their LinkedIn with ‘incoming Optiver Spring Intern’ before their first class (in the description, headline just says ‘Optiver’) abound. It reminds me of this glorious article about when IB went the same way leveragedsellout.com/2008/10/rememb…. Meanwhile quant firms have given up the comedy of ‘liquidity as a service’ and brazenly profit off index manipulation and ‘flows’ trades. It’s an open secret on the street who ‘flows’ trades benefit and who loses out. This is not to mention the societal loss of such a talent pool doing utterly useless work.
Iain Dunning@iaindunning

Heard that some firms already making QR intern offers for summer 2027. I'd suggest if you're in that situation, first of all don't let them pressure you. Second, if you're a "rising junior" and you want an HRT offer, get in touch. Willing to talk early for exceptional candidates.

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Amit Patel
Amit Patel@bloopmit·
@garrytan Won’t it just be AI talking to other AI? why do people believe in ASI while also shoehorning in unnecessary human participation in that scenario - feels like it has to be one or the other to me
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Garry Tan@garrytan·
The real AI whitepill is: There will always be a market for translating what the 200 IQ people and agents make down to everyone else
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shift
shift@joinshiftX·
Today, we're launching shift. We're starting by cleaning your apartment in New York City, for free. Here's how it works. Book a shift cleaning. A vetted shift operator comes to your home wearing one of our devices. They clean. They leave. You pay nothing. In exchange, we record the cleaning. Robotics is being built on data about how people do daily tasks, and the value of that recording is what funds the service. Anything personal in it is anonymized before the recording is processed. By now, you have heard about the shift to AI more times than you can count. About the shift toward you, the part where you actually feel it, you have heard almost nothing. Shift is what starts to make it concrete, in specific cities, with specific services. Today, cleaning in New York. Soon, handymen, repairs, and errands across the globe. And this is just one side of shift, with more on the way. Comment “shift” and we’ll send you an early access link.
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prinz
prinz@deredleritt3r·
Anthropic revenue (annualized): - January 2025: $1B - May: $3B - June: $4B - August: $5B - October: $7B - December: $8B to $10B -February 2026: $14B -March: $19B -April: $30B -May: $47B
Anthropic@AnthropicAI

Earlier this month, our run-rate revenue crossed $47 billion. This growth has been driven by organizations across many industries deploying Claude in their core operations, and by a growing number of people using it for their everyday work. Read more: anthropic.com/news/series-h

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hope hopes hoping
hope hopes hoping@hopes_revenge·
twinks have been disappearing in buenos aires .
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Amit Patel
Amit Patel@bloopmit·
I thought the @GavinSBaker take on this during invest like the best was great - they’re raising under their real value to generate momentum with investors and talent - much better than getting ahead of their skis and suffering a write down (even though that’s hard to imagine right now)
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litquidity@litcapital·
Every Anthropic funding round be like
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Amit Patel@bloopmit·
@GrantStenger Bull case is really: Jane street indicates they will put their talent to work at both trading and a more scalable business (AI research / infra? Something else?). In which case, ya I could see an astronomical value
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Grant Stenger (hiring)
Grant Stenger (hiring)@GrantStenger·
@bloopmit Fair, though tweet says 15x. Agreed that it’s rich vs Virtu/Flow who trade publicly at ~10x. But JS is higher margin and faster growing. Seems reasonable but I’m open-minded.
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Grant Stenger (hiring)
Grant Stenger (hiring)@GrantStenger·
Jane Street reportedly grew net trading revenue from ~$10B in 2023 to ~$20B in ’24 to ~$40B in ’25. With reported net margins around 65%, a ~15x multiple implies a ~$400B public-market value. Mega-cap territory, growing fast, one of the most incredible businesses of all time.
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