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@AnihSammy mid acting

This is why it is very important to not drink and drive. That 1 wrong decision can change not only your life but everyone involved 😭

@MartinTweats so because your god is more powerful than us, his standard reigns supreme? many of the things he considers sin, like homosexuality, are harmless and are only sin because they're an "abomination" - aka, God finds it "gross". it's all subjective, then. What if God liked torture?

By what moral standards are you (a finite being) judging the moral standards of God (an infinite being)?

@Clearpath__ @Dulloldguy there is no such thing as "evil".

@Dulloldguy Okay. If justice is defined as consequence for evil, shouldn't everyone pay for the deficits they create? How exactly does a finite entity like yourself pay an infinite cosmic debt? If you can't balance the ledger, your worldview has no solution for justice.

Atheist: There are thousands of religions, which one is true? Me: The only one that fully addresses and solves the problem of evil/sin.

@PaulBrunne49189 @ScottMatte @AtheistPhoenix by that logic we also follow programs. our neural networks are just constructed via biological means over time via evolution, as opposed to being designed by humans. We're just more advanced in conparison to the AI, until means develop to improve it further.

@c3wavy @ScottMatte @AtheistPhoenix All computers follow programs. How are the networks constructed? And "to attempt" means we're hoping. It's fine. But all that just means we're trying to make it work better. Not cognitive function. When you read those books it's all Hope & conjecture. "If we can just...."

There is zero evidence for a soul I’ll wait for your empirical evidence

@PaulBrunne49189 @ScottMatte @AtheistPhoenix AI doesn't just "follow programs". You should read a book about AI to learn more. long story short, AIs use neural networks to attempt to provide an optimal output after receiving input. if it's off, it tries again, until it learns. Read Deep Learning by John D Kelleher.

@c3wavy @ScottMatte @AtheistPhoenix AI can only follow programs, even programs that teach it programming. That's not cognitive function - despite movies it can't reach independent thought. It can however learn programming to program that could be detrimental to us. But your answer has potential!! 😉

@PaulBrunne49189 @ScottMatte @AtheistPhoenix what makes you so sure that AI will never teaxh cognitive function? The only reason i don't believe we'll get there is that I think we'll destroy the planet by the time the technology is advanced enough.

@c3wavy @ScottMatte @AtheistPhoenix That's not cognitive function. I doubt it'll ever actually reach cognitive function. At the end of the day, still programs and coding. Duplication yes, origination? Meh. It would be cool but no.

@danytocytosis @KumarRahul65453 @NatureUnedited AI slop, that's what it means

@KumarRahul65453 @NatureUnedited What the fuck does this even mean

Rabbits show dominance by demanding to be groomed, while cats show dominance by grooming the other. A perfect relationship

@beckaliciouss_ @grok @grok is there actually shit in the anus???

hey @grok is this actually true ??

@IamPaulyne2025 @Ghostlight_15 @Talon77752 @UgoCannon not freely, anyway.

@Ghostlight_15 @c3wavy @Talon77752 @UgoCannon Saying that as if religious people actually think.

If God planned Jesus crucifixion from the beginning, Why blame humanity for carrying out the plan?

@Talon77752 @Ghostlight_15 @UgoCannon it would be objectively better for us to be happy but controlled than "free" and punished for it

@c3wavy @Ghostlight_15 @UgoCannon free will. if he did that we would be slaves and not His children.

@Talon77752 @Ghostlight_15 @UgoCannon what's the difference between automatically correcting behavior you don't like and punishing it with eternal damnation??? that's exactly how slaves worked, they were punished for doing things their owners didn't like.

@Ghostlight_15 @UgoCannon @Talon77752 as an all powerful god, if your creation is behaving in a way you wouldn't prefer, why wouldn't you just correct the behavior without punishment? or can he *not* do that, the same way he can't stop evil in the first place?

@c3wavy @UgoCannon @Talon77752 So you're saying all evil should go unpunished?

@ScottMatte @PaulBrunne49189 @AtheistPhoenix it actually says a lot. brain activity in a specific area means that the person is thinking (making a mental representation) of the thing that area relates to. so, in inverse, if we hooked you up to an fMRI and saw activity in the FFA, we'd infer you were thinking about faces.

@c3wavy @PaulBrunne49189 @AtheistPhoenix That doesn’t say exactly what the brain is doing.

@Ghostlight_15 @UgoCannon @Talon77752 why did punishment need to be administered in the first place?

@UgoCannon @Talon77752 He took the punishment for all of the sins of humanity.

@ScottMatte @PaulBrunne49189 @AtheistPhoenix ...by measuring brain activity. we have methods of recording activity from individual neurons up to entire clusters in the brain. for example, if someone were to watch a movie under a brain scanner and see a face, we'd see activity in the fusiform face area (FFA) of the brain

@c3wavy @PaulBrunne49189 @AtheistPhoenix Yes, we can measure brain activity, even during dreams, but what exactly is the brain doing and how do we know?

@ScottMatte @PaulBrunne49189 @AtheistPhoenix we can actually perform brain imaging scans to see brain activity during dreams. they're no different than normal everyday thought.

@c3wavy @PaulBrunne49189 @AtheistPhoenix You could consider dreams. You can’t open up the skull in a sleeping patient and find a dream in there. They have a dream body with a dream brain they experience the dream with.

@ScottMatte @PaulBrunne49189 @AtheistPhoenix No. But to compare the human mind with a tv show, you would first need to prove that the human mind is continuously running elsewhere and that the brain is just a window into its operations. there's no evidence for that, though.

@c3wavy @PaulBrunne49189 @AtheistPhoenix When you turn a radio or TV off, there is no activity. The activity is absent. Does that mean the music or TV show stopped?

@ScottMatte @PaulBrunne49189 @AtheistPhoenix scientists are already replicating cognitive functions in AI (decision making, face recognition, sentence construction, etc). we're simply organic intelligence with a remarkably efficient memory system which allows us to learn through experience

@c3wavy @PaulBrunne49189 @AtheistPhoenix My understanding is that neurologists aren’t able to stimulate any part of the brain to cause cognitive function. They can touch one place and cause an arm to move, touch somewhere else and cause a smell. But they can’t touch anywhere and cause a mathematical problem to be solved

@ScottMatte @PaulBrunne49189 @AtheistPhoenix therefore, if all patterns of behavior/thought can be linked to brain activity, and behavior as a whole is absent when brain activity is subsequently absent, we can conclude that the "mind" is a concept related to the brain, and not to the soul.

@c3wavy @PaulBrunne49189 @AtheistPhoenix What I was asking is if you can prove that “your ‘mind’ is just a system of thought that exists due to your brain shooting out electrical signals everywhere. once the brain stops, the mind stops too”. Don’t turn it around on me. You can either prove it or you can’t.