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The Sovereign Life

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Joe Thomsett
Joe Thomsett@joethomsett·
Best post I've read on X in an age. Game theory applied to 'should I stay in my m&a job or buy a business.' But applicable to corporate with capped payoffs Vs entrepreneurship with uncapped payoffs more generally. Instant follow.
moneyfetishist@moneyfetishist

I am not going to motivate you because if you need motivation from a stranger on a plane the answer is stay but I will give you the game theory your corporate M&A gig is a repeated game with diminishing marginal returns. year 1 you learn everything. year 2 you refine it. year 3 you are executing pattern recognition. year 4+ you are being paid more to do the same thing with slightly larger numbers. the learning curve flattens but the golden handcuffs tighten because every year the comp goes up and the opportunity cost of leaving gets more painful on paper this is a classic status quo bias trap. the payoff of staying is known and comfortable. the payoff of leaving is uncertain and scary. so you stay not because staying is optimal but because the asymmetry of regret is lopsided. you can imagine regretting the leap. you cannot as easily imagine regretting the years you stayed too long because that regret builds slowly and never hits you in one moment here is where game theory actually helps: in your M&A seat you are playing someone else's game. the firm sets the rules, the deal flow, the comp structure, the promotion timeline. you optimize within their framework. you are a very well-compensated player in a game you did not design. your upside is capped by whatever the partnership or MD economics look like. your downside is protected by a salary. that is the trade owning a local business flips the entire payoff matrix. you design the game. you set the rules. the downside is real and unprotected but the upside is uncapped and compounds in ways a salary never does because you own the equity. a $2M EBITDA business bought at 4x and grown to $3M EBITDA over 3 years is worth $12-15M on exit. no M&A salary trajectory produces that kind of wealth creation in that timeframe unless you are a founding partner the Nash equilibrium of your current situation: you and every other M&A professional are competing for the same promotions, same deal credit, same bonus pool. the competition is fierce because the players are identical. same schools, same skills, same hours. you are in a crowded equilibrium where everyone works 80 hours to stay in the same relative position local business ownership is a different game with different players. the competition is a 62-year-old owner who stopped innovating in 2014 and a 35-year-old who inherited the business and does not want to be there. you walk in with financial sophistication, deal structuring experience, and the ability to read a balance sheet faster than anyone in the room. you are overqualified for the game which is exactly where you want to be. the best strategy in game theory is to play games where your existing skill set gives you an asymmetric advantage over the other players the timing question is about optionality. every year you stay in M&A your financial optionality goes up slightly because you save more. but your operational optionality goes down because you get further from the reality of running anything. the M&A guy who leaves at 28 adapts to operations in 6 months. the one who leaves at 38 has a decade of habits built around delegating to analysts and reviewing decks, and managing a P&L feels foreign in a way it would not have 10 years earlier but again. if you need me to motivate you, stay. the people who actually do this do not need motivation. they need a spreadsheet that shows the math works and then they cannot NOT do it. if you have the spreadsheet and you are still asking strangers for motivation the spreadsheet is not the problem

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Joe Thomsett
Joe Thomsett@joethomsett·
@moneyfetishist @eachtras Best post I've read on X in an age. Game theory applied to 'should I stay in my m&a job or buy a business.' But applicable to corporate with capped payoffs Vs entrepreneurship with uncapped payoffs more generally. Instant follow.
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moneyfetishist@moneyfetishist·
I am not going to motivate you because if you need motivation from a stranger on a plane the answer is stay but I will give you the game theory your corporate M&A gig is a repeated game with diminishing marginal returns. year 1 you learn everything. year 2 you refine it. year 3 you are executing pattern recognition. year 4+ you are being paid more to do the same thing with slightly larger numbers. the learning curve flattens but the golden handcuffs tighten because every year the comp goes up and the opportunity cost of leaving gets more painful on paper this is a classic status quo bias trap. the payoff of staying is known and comfortable. the payoff of leaving is uncertain and scary. so you stay not because staying is optimal but because the asymmetry of regret is lopsided. you can imagine regretting the leap. you cannot as easily imagine regretting the years you stayed too long because that regret builds slowly and never hits you in one moment here is where game theory actually helps: in your M&A seat you are playing someone else's game. the firm sets the rules, the deal flow, the comp structure, the promotion timeline. you optimize within their framework. you are a very well-compensated player in a game you did not design. your upside is capped by whatever the partnership or MD economics look like. your downside is protected by a salary. that is the trade owning a local business flips the entire payoff matrix. you design the game. you set the rules. the downside is real and unprotected but the upside is uncapped and compounds in ways a salary never does because you own the equity. a $2M EBITDA business bought at 4x and grown to $3M EBITDA over 3 years is worth $12-15M on exit. no M&A salary trajectory produces that kind of wealth creation in that timeframe unless you are a founding partner the Nash equilibrium of your current situation: you and every other M&A professional are competing for the same promotions, same deal credit, same bonus pool. the competition is fierce because the players are identical. same schools, same skills, same hours. you are in a crowded equilibrium where everyone works 80 hours to stay in the same relative position local business ownership is a different game with different players. the competition is a 62-year-old owner who stopped innovating in 2014 and a 35-year-old who inherited the business and does not want to be there. you walk in with financial sophistication, deal structuring experience, and the ability to read a balance sheet faster than anyone in the room. you are overqualified for the game which is exactly where you want to be. the best strategy in game theory is to play games where your existing skill set gives you an asymmetric advantage over the other players the timing question is about optionality. every year you stay in M&A your financial optionality goes up slightly because you save more. but your operational optionality goes down because you get further from the reality of running anything. the M&A guy who leaves at 28 adapts to operations in 6 months. the one who leaves at 38 has a decade of habits built around delegating to analysts and reviewing decks, and managing a P&L feels foreign in a way it would not have 10 years earlier but again. if you need me to motivate you, stay. the people who actually do this do not need motivation. they need a spreadsheet that shows the math works and then they cannot NOT do it. if you have the spreadsheet and you are still asking strangers for motivation the spreadsheet is not the problem
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moneyfetishist
moneyfetishist@moneyfetishist·
bored on a flight. AMA PE, M&A, deal structuring, operational stuff, Mittelstand, AI in boring industries, tax structures that make your accountant nervous, how to not get fcked when selling your company, game theory applied to literally anything, European vs American business culture, why your restaurant is bad, or whatever else you want to know no topic off limits besides to my person. ask
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Karun Pal
Karun Pal@karunpal·
Intelligent people aren’t loud. They don’t demand attention. They don’t need to prove anything. But when you’re around them, you feel it. To your bones. You feel calmer. More like yourself. They ask deep questions no one asks. They notice small things. Real intelligence isn’t looks, clothes, money, status. It’s in the way someone thinks. The way they see the world. It’s quiet. Intelligent people make you feel understood, not impressed.
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Karun Pal
Karun Pal@karunpal·
Don't chase money, status, or titles. Seek what your soul actually longs for. Chase meaning. The kind of life that feels right even when no one else is watching. It will give you everything you desire. Trust me. But first, know yourself. Your needs. What makes you happy. What makes you peaceful. Find work that feels like play. Create a rhythm of life that feels true to who you are. That’s how you build a life you can’t wait to wake up to.
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Stack Hodler
Stack Hodler@stackhodler·
You look at the United States today and of course you don't believe they put a man on the moon in 1969 But go watch the Apollo 11 documentary on Amazon What you'll see is an entirely different country full of people that basically no longer exist today A serious, focused, rational, and united people with a common goal They had a pack of tin foil and less computing power than a microwave oven... But they understood physics They knew how to build things And most of all, they had belief Why wouldn't they? They were from the country that invented flight itself If two bike mechanics from the midwest could accomplish something that even the great da Vinci only dreamed of... Why couldn't a team of the brightest minds in the most powerful country in the world come together to put a man on the moon? As time goes on, fewer people believe that the scientists and engineers of the 60's actually put a man on the moon But that says more about our own time than theirs Go tour the Mont Saint-Michel in France and you'll realize that progress isn't always linear They built that place 500+ years ago, but no one could imagine us building it today Yet no one denies it's there. It sits there as a high watermark in architectural history, reminding us what we are no longer capable of. The moon landing is a lot easier to deny. You can't see it with your own eyes. And what you do see with your own eyes makes it hard to believe it was possible.
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Joe Thomsett
Joe Thomsett@joethomsett·
@pmddomingos You already did by causing this mess and walking away from it.
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Pedro Domingos
Pedro Domingos@pmddomingos·
Europe needs to reopen the Strait of Hormuz way more than America does, but refuses to help America do it. And Europe is within range of Iran's missiles, unlike America, but refuses to help America get rid of them. Maybe it's time to abandon Europe to its fate.
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dr. alicia andrzejewski (she/her)
your could ask AI to help you brainstorm ideas for novels or you could do it the old fashioned way: long walks, post it notes, dreams, daydreams, conversations with other writers, staring at the wall, free-writing, visual arts, meditating, lots of reading, & living a full life.
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Joe Thomsett
Joe Thomsett@joethomsett·
@Bushra1Shaikh Hardly a surprise given the constant flip flopping and outbursts of the current leader
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Bushra Shaikh
Bushra Shaikh@Bushra1Shaikh·
I've been informed - off the record - Europe planning for a future with reduced American security guarantees, driven by increased perceptions of the U.S. as an unreliable ally. Boom 💥
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Joe Thomsett
Joe Thomsett@joethomsett·
@karunpal Sounds like bliss. Do you ever feel compelled to do more than that? Ever?
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Karun Pal
Karun Pal@karunpal·
I live a slow life. A life unbothered by anything. I wake up. Make a coffee. Listen to the birds. Go for a walk. Work at my desk for a few hours. Read Tolstoy (War & peace). Eat a simple lunch. Listen to some classical music. I'm at peace. I'm a simple man. That's all I want.
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Эррол Хан
Эррол Хан@ErrolTostigson·
Cortez, with 500 men, subdued and destroyed an empire of millions. Pizarro had 168 men to conquer the Incas. A few good men with the will to act are worth more than entire races, cultures and religions of conservatives who believe nothing is or should be possible.
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Mark Slapinski
Mark Slapinski@mark_slapinski·
I'm looking for a tidbit of clarity: Why is America at war with Iran?!
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Floro S.
Floro S.@sflorimm·
@lessdumb_dev Unmatched intellectual heritage, absolutely. But unfortunately, existentialism doesn't lower your cloud compute costs or train a 100B parameter model.
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Floro S.
Floro S.@sflorimm·
USA has ChatGPT USA has Grok USA has Claude USA has Gemini USA has Llama USA has Copilot China has DeepSeek China has Qwen China has Ernie China has GLM China has Kimi China has MiniMax Europe has?
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Maximilian Leopold Aurelius H.
@sflorimm @lessdumb_dev bro Europe literally formalized the math your 100B model runs on, Turing was British, the transformer architecture came out of Google Zürich, and DeepMind sits in London but sure existentialism is the takeaway here lmao
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Joe Thomsett@joethomsett·
@krassenstein At the moment he's the boy who cried wolf and even his biggest fans are getting fed up with him. I liked some, not all, of what he has tried to do before this. But this is tedious and looks deranged and the delivery increasingly lacks class.
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Brian Krassenstein
Brian Krassenstein@krassenstein·
TRUMP: “The world respects us right now more than they have ever respected us before.” - France: closes airspace to our military - Italy: closes their airbase to our military - Spain: closes their bases to our military - Poland: refuses to provide missile batteries to us. Trump doesn’t understand what respect means.
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Joe Thomsett@joethomsett·
If an ally pokes a bear and smashes infrastructure to your detriment, without briefing you, for their gain, are they an ally in that moment? Good faith question...
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