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Anything about these hr actors that I know are against my will. I’m just here for Hollanov. Don’t stan men irl.

i knew this conversation was going to lead back to discussions of genre but the adoption and use of certain iconography and aesthetics in "alternative spaces" is not something that is beyond criticism

@yurayurayuraxd 粉男人风险就是高啊，还好我只搞纸片人，hollanov从不让我失望

我现在就是极度的恶心+愤怒。我无法原谅c也无法忍受知情还继续粉c的人。

I just want non Chinese or non Koreans to stop using 731 in their art like our suffering is not your transgressive art. TIL this day there are no reparations or consequences for the heinous acts committed. I don’t see how it can bring change so STFU 差不多得了别他爹的用艺术当借口

@bewildered_bi These music are not art that aims to provoke discomfort like a picture of the shoes worn by the holocaust victims or the empty beds in unit 731. The songs make victims uncomfortable but actual n**is and fascists will not feel discomfort listening. How is that activism?

@bewildered_bi Is it not reasonable that as an Asian person, I don’t wanna see ppl mentioning unit 731 on my tl? It’s a painful period of history for me and my ppl. I’m just on twitter for some fun and why do I see ppl sharing and defending it in the name of art and activism?

anti-art, anti-intellectual, puritanical people doing the work of the surveillance state all by themselves just so they can say ‘your fav was found guilty of a thoughtcrime’ and somehow thinking they aren’t parasocial ????

@powerfulwizerd I thought u meant oura rings and i got kinda offended for a sec lmaooooooo

I hate those fuck ass wedding rings that tech bros wear. You know the ones

Do I think they are nazis? No Do I think they have bad intentions? No Do I think they should be cancelled? No Do I think the way ppl are defending them are causing a lot of harm and they should STFU? Yes Do I think we should just focus on Hollanov? Yes

@d2244222 @fleurqts The translation is probably not good so I can only infer what you are saying. I’m not even making comments about C bc I don’t know his intentions. However, what’s truly maddening is the extent ppl go to defend the “art” that he is linked to and dredging up all these hate.

@jujuzzhd @fleurqts Ну все чел я плохая ты хороший, рот от гнева перекошен. Я считаю, что в песне этл может быть использовано как эффективный анти нацисткий прием (не говорю про эту) ты считаешь что в этом формате это невозможно. Ок Разайдемся на том что быть национальной плохо и точка

mind u the songs are about activism lmfao

@d2244222 @fleurqts ? U do understand this is a song and not an essay on nazism? It cannot go deep enough into disecting hate speech especially when it’s something like hitler’s. I already said quoting an in power dictator can at least be an act of defiance. What’s the point of quoting a dead one?

@jujuzzhd @fleurqts Я вроде раз 5 сказала, что мой тейк не про эту песню, а про идею в целом. Нет как раз для того чтобы убирать культ личности, нужно эту личность разбирать в том числе его речи. А у нациков именно культ личности гитлера.

@d2244222 @fleurqts Not sure that’s the same thing Hitler speech is doing as speaking against putin’s lies. Everybody knows what hitler said is just hate. Using the speech is just hurting ppl who are affected when you could’ve just use the evidence of holocaust to “make ppl uncomfortable” for art

@jujuzzhd @fleurqts Речь путина это не про неповиновение, а про то что он врет, противоречит себе и тем самым обесценить его слова, также можно вполне использовать в теории речь гитлера, опять же я не за эту идею.

@ftmcage Ok you are just clowning now. Sure Jan

@jujuzzhd ah yes and you sound like a white supremacist using "snow flake"

shut up pussy

@d2244222 @fleurqts I’m repeating this again: the Hitler speech doesn’t make nazis uncomfortable. It incites and encourages them actually. It only makes victims uncomfortable. If that is your idea of not supporting nazism, then idk maybe you should change

@jujuzzhd @fleurqts Повторяю еще раз, это вполне себе может быть использовано если ты буквально дальше деконстрируешь. Я не уверена что подходит под активизм, и я даже не говорю про этот трек. Я про истерику, что любое использование речи гитлера поддержка нацизма. Это дешёвый и тригерный трюк

@ftmcage Yea you are for sure the victim here. You claim to be poc but sure sounds like a fragile white snowflake.

@jujuzzhd congratulations, calling a brown person a nazi for not being illiterate like u♡

@d2244222 @fleurqts The problem is also that hitler’s speech is brainwashing ppl for fascism. If you just want to be provocative and make ppl uncomfortable, then include the atrocities of n*** Germany. What’s the point of using some hate speech? Who are you making uncomfortable? Cuz the nazis arent

@jujuzzhd @fleurqts Ну если вы в своей песни включаете речь Гитлера для того чтобы показать убогость его убеждений, это в какой-то степени активизм. Приём дешёвый, но идея базовая. Есть отличная песня, которая начинается с речи путина и при этом вау не поддерживает его

@ftmcage Does calling other ppl names make you feel good about yourself? I guess you can go on w your “provocative” art and fake activism. I will be here actually working on initiatives that defends vulnerable groups from violence these art actually incite from ppl like you.

@jujuzzhd there's nothing to defend because there's nothing worth calling out idiot. music that challenges the status quo and doesnt sugar coat fascism has existed for decades and youre a reactionary liberal

@ftmcage @Itsmeimbxtches Lmfao u guys crack me up w the projecting and the cowardice. Just block me and move on if you cannot take discourse

@Itsmeimbxtches @jujuzzhd like put down the coke pls 🙏

yall get so scared when real leftism gets introduced to yall in music, like real hard-core activism with controversial themes

@ftmcage Projecting at its finest. If anyone else does this shit you wouldn’t be at the front line defending it. You are only defending this bc someone you like is linked to it. Who doesn’t have a backbone now? I’m actually a fan of the show but enough is enough w the excuses my god.

@jujuzzhd you are a pussy with no backbone ‼️

@ftmcage Calling ppl monkey is suddenly not a slur now? And the audacity to say some underground song with Hitler speech is “protest”? Just listen to them and stfu if you like depraved art. Don’t try to make it into something noble. You know hitlers speech is brainwashing propaganda right

@jujuzzhd slur is when I call you a baboon? thats not a slur, thats me calling you a dumbass which is what you are. protesting and activism should not be clean or pretty. it serves to make people uncomfortable. thats the point. to call out the past.