Dave

@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith Just scrolled through your Tweets and saw that you're also a creep and probably an incel. Blocked.

@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith I even clarified myself repeatedly and you just arrogantly charged on repeating an assertion I never made.

America, I love you dearly, but you need to sort your sockets out. Never once have I plugged something in in Britain and seen a spark.

@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith No, an induction coil, the first practical type of transformer.

@Chipzilla2k4 @mikeysmith A solenoid?

@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith Britain was behind in implementation due to more stringent regulations/politics. It's a fact that the work of UK based engineers like Gaulard and Gibbs was the direct catalyst for American pioneers like Westinghouse, who used and developed upon their patents and AC transformers.

But it’s not the only element. Developing the principle of a changing flux inducing a voltage is not even the only element that’s important for transformers. The UK didn’t do everything for commercial electricity and then just stumble, letting Americans steal everything to cross that line first.

@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith I felt the implication was clear that when I said invented key elements I was talking about high level initial inventions, as I gave two examples in which that was the case, it's not like I am denying any historical facts or timelines.

@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith Something is invented before it is physically made, and typically long before it is commercially viable. The transformer was a key element required for commercial electricity invented in the UK, regardless of whether it was made commercial practical in the UK, which it mostly was

@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith The iron core in the middle is open linear in the sense of being a straight cylinder, the toroid describe the arrangement of the coils around it.

@Chipzilla2k4 @mikeysmith How do you have a closed loop toroid with an open loop? Or in a linear orientation for that matter?

@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith Almost every development that happened between Faraday and practical AC power transmission, happened in the UK first, even if all the elements didn't come together as we know it today there.

@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith Even if you want to distort the definition of invention like that, Gaulard was working in the UK with Dixon-Gibbs when they designed the first AC transformers practical for power transmission, while the first public power source was slightly earlier in Surrey.

@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith A way to say that something is similar to a toroid. Or a ring donut. As opposed to the square core common of most modern large scale transformers.

@Chipzilla2k4 @mikeysmith And what does toroidal mean?

@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith I never said practical transformers first came from the UK though, I completely accept there's a difference between inventing the elements of something and engineering it into a viable commercial product.

@Chipzilla2k4 @mikeysmith I’ll say the UK assisted in transformer development. It’d be inappropriate to say practical transformers came from the UK, though.

@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith It's an induction coil that has an open linear core made of iron, rather than a closed iron loop or any later alternative core topologies, those were descriptors rather than part of the name.

@Chipzilla2k4 @mikeysmith There’s no such thing as a toroidal open linear iron core induction coil.

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@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith You said "I’m not sure the UK had anything to do with transformer development." And I'm saying that's not true, several of the key innovations, discoveries and developments that went into practical AC transformers came from the UK, even if not initially used for AC transformers.

@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith laminated wire cores had already been implemented in commercial induction coils, British engineer Alfred Apps had already perfected sectional winding. British advancements in dielectric insulation for induction coils were later ported over to transformers by Elihu Thomson.

@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith The first AC transformers were still toroidal open linear iron core induction coils, just with the mechanical interrupter required for DC use removed. By that point Callan's designs had already been scaled up to large elegant models for X-Rays, radio, etc. Key features like...

@MrNickFortune @mikeysmith Ireland was specifically part of the UK, unlike the rest of the empire, but yes I never said Faraday had everything ready? I said that the transformer was invented in the UK, and disputed your claim that the UK had no involvement with later AC models.

Ok? He can be the first to demonstrate transformer principles with a test, and if you want to call that the first real transformer, ok. And of course they operated on the same principles. It’s electricity. That doesn’t mean Faraday had everything ready for practical transformers, nor does it mean that the UK, even if you include half the world’s population as “British citizens”, had everything ready for commercial electricity.