Zenith ☧

@iam_shwa Protestants definitely have us beat on evangelizing, they also have us beat on community cookouts, prot cookouts go super hard.

Catholics! Say one NICE thing about Protestantism Protestants! Say one NICE thing about Catholicism

@Ferrus_21 @Deppeken @PostLibCatholic @pureMetatron As long as you affirm the office and ascribe official matters of faith or morals, you're not in schism. You can reject his personal opinions on non dogmatic matters, dislike his personality, and believe his ways are in error otherwise. Disliking the pope is pretty catholic..

@Zenith481 @Deppeken @PostLibCatholic @pureMetatron You are in fact wrong good sir not me.

Says the disproportionately wealthy man.

@Ferrus_21 @Deppeken @PostLibCatholic @pureMetatron That's not how Catholicism works...

@Deppeken @PostLibCatholic @pureMetatron Which by definition makes him not a Catholic. What the Pope says goes.

@maklelan @RacistAlchemist It's not 'ableist' because he's not discriminating against people with actual mental handicaps. I'm willing to bet he wouldn't call someone with down syndrome retarded. He's telling someone who's not actually retarded that they're being retarded. Only low I.Q. libs think this. .

@RacistAlchemist @Zenith481 Oh, ableist slurs aren’t tolerated around here. Tschüss.

The Shroud of Turin is clearly––for many different reasons––a medieval forgery & the first ecclesiastical authorities who dealt with it in the 14th century even said they found the guy who did it & he admitted to it.

@clownmalenko @maklelan I literally gave you Three pieces of counter evidence and there's alot more. There's a reason it's debated by secular sources. Look at the STURP researchers findings and views..

@Zenith481 @maklelan There is no actual "counter evidence". Again, the evidence is overwhelming, from several different perspectives and fields of study.

@clownmalenko @maklelan But it hasn't, you're ignoring the counter evidence and implying a one age test is good enough despite all the issues with that...what are we doing here? You obviously have a biased lens. So yeah man, believe whatever you want.

@Zenith481 @maklelan Look man, believe whatever you want. Historically and scientifically it's been proven to be a circa 14th c forgery. Scientific analysis done the shroud showed *it was painted*. The physical proportions are not right but consistent with gothic art renderings of humans.

@clownmalenko @maklelan You have the wrong lens here. Yes, material on the fabric was dated to around the 14th century. But it could have been a contaminated piece, that's normal and why there's usually multiple test's from multiple area's. But that was not done with the shroud. And what technique hmm?

@Zenith481 @maklelan Cool, I guess. Anyway, no study has shown the 1988 tests to be incorrect and you can't answer as to why it was woven with a technique that did not exist before the 1300s.

@clownmalenko @maklelan The University of Padua did Raman spectroscopy on the shroud which dates it to between 200BC to 30AD. Italy's Institute of Crystallography dated it's "Aging Parameter" to around 55AD. Also pollen was found on it that traces to plants only known in the Judean region.

@Zenith481 @maklelan There is no evidence that shoes it could be from the 1st century. It has been radiocarbon dated to the late 13th/early 14th century and was woven in a technique that was invented in the 14th c. There are no mentions of it before the 14th c. It is medieval.

@maklelan The STURP researchers would strongly disagree...

@Zenith481 It can & has been recreated & precisely by painting it & then heating it to make the paint deteriorate, leaving the cellulose of the linen discolored. Also, pigment was discovered on the shroud.

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@TheBasedTrinity I require a link to this test my good sir

It do be like that.

"The closer one approaches to God, the simpler one becomes." - St. Teresa of Avila

@Templarpilled How the Christians he persecuted really looked like;

@BibleInContext1 Agree, we should pray for the salvation of the Jewish people...by them joining the new covenant that Christ made. Paul wanted them to become Christian. But they reject the messiah. They are now no different than pagans, Hindu's, Atheists ect. Pray for them, but they arn't special

Christians should pray for the salvation of the Jewish people! If the apostle Paul, who is an example of a New Testament saint, prayed for Israel then so shall we continue to do so today! “Brethren, my heart’s desire and my prayer to God for them is for their salvation.” (Romans 10:1) This is not just Paul’s words, but the word of God! Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: “May they prosper who love you. (Psalm 122:6)

@Orthodavec @ATradCatholic How I've always felt;

@ATradCatholic We have our disagreements and they aren’t meaningless, but I always side with my Catholic brothers and sisters.

They’re coming for all apostolic Christianity. East and West must stand together.

@pureMetatron "Looksmaxxing" is actually super feminine. We had another word for it back in the day..

There is nothing masculine about caring so much about your "perfect look". This is vanity, which isn't a masculine trait.

@hdpayens Brother, if you ever wrote a book. I would genuinely buy it.

Protestants say asking saints to pray for us is "talking to the dead." Scripture says something very different. Revelation 5:8: "The twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints." Read that carefully. The saints in heaven are actively presenting prayers before God. They are not sleeping. They are not unconscious. They are participating in the heavenly liturgy right now. This is not necromancy. Necromancy is conjuring the dead for hidden knowledge, condemned in Deuteronomy 18:10-12. Asking a saint to pray for you is no different than asking your pastor to pray for you. The only question is whether the saints in heaven are alive and aware. Christ answered that directly. "He is not God of the dead, but of the living, for all live to him." (Luke 20:38) The early Church understood this. Origen wrote around 233 AD that the saints in heaven intercede for us, calling them "allies in prayer" who stand before God on our behalf. If you ask a friend at church to pray for you, nobody calls it necromancy. But when Catholics ask someone in the direct presence of the Lamb to pray for them, suddenly it becomes forbidden? The real question is this: why would you limit your prayer partners to only those on earth, when Revelation shows the saints in heaven already doing it? Follow for daily apologetics that go straight to the text.

@Cinaboncrusader Can't decide between the two..

Who is your favorite saint? Mine is St Bernadette.

@ATradCatholic @Sola_Requiem You are correct. My wording was poor describing his 'emptying'. I jumped the gun and was really talking about the veiling of his divinity. Not a loss of it.

@Zenith481 @Sola_Requiem Closer, but it’s better to say Christ didn’t limit His divinity. The Son assumed a real human nature and freely lived according to it. The ‘emptying’ in Philippians is taking the form of a servant, not restricting the divine nature.

What does it mean when Christ “emptied himself” in Philippians 2:7?

@ATradCatholic @Sola_Requiem Relinquished was the wrong word to use. But no, I wasn't inferring that he lost any of his divinity. Christ is 100% divine and 100% human. He basically set limits to himself within his own structure to assume human nature. Or is my take too Orthodox?

@Zenith481 @Sola_Requiem Kenosis doesn’t mean Christ stopped possessing divine prerogatives. The verse defines the ‘emptying’ as taking the form of a servant. He didn’t lose anything of His divinity; He humbled Himself by assuming human nature.