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i'm not accustomed to making the argument that peace is a moral good, so i'll make a practical argument there's no strong evidence that spanking works. granted, such evidence would be difficult to produce, but since people have a habit of erring wrt violence it's more prudent to avoid spanking when it's unnecessary, and it's always unnecessary i understand that "spanking is probably not good" is a different argument than "spanking is bad", but the former is good enough to guide my decision making
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@ded_ruckus @BigthinkerBig @VirtueinAbyss @punished_bobda @CristusVictor hm, i thought i was being clear spanking is violent, and violence is wrong are you asking me why violence is wrong? if so, as i previously indicated, i'm going to pull out any number of arguments in favor of pacifism that have been made in the past couple centuries
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@PreciousWizard you don't send a child to their room to cause pain, you do it to remove them from a situation pain is not a prerequisite for discipline
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WizardofPreciousPearls@PreciousWizard·
When you scold a child, you inflict pain. When a child feels remorse, they feel pain. When you send a child to their room, your goal is to make them unhappy. Every punishment causes pain, that’s the point. This logic naturally leads to no punishment and permissive parenting.
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If your child is too young to understand why their behavior is wrong, they're too young to understand why they're being spanked. If they're old enough to understand, then spanking them is both unnecessary and, at best, a shortcut around some other method that would actually help them understand. There's no real argument against this. Every single "valid situation" people offer is retarded. "My kid was going to run in the street/they were hitting their sibling/they were going to pull boiling water on themselves." All your fault, all your responsibility, whether they are old enough to understand why these things are wrong or not. If you fail to prevent these situations, you turn to your inability to correct your child without blaming them for YOUR mistakes. So many of you have been oneshotted by lead-brained Boomerism. You make retarded, invalid analogies to war or criminality. You imagine hypothetical scenarios in which you feel morally righteous about hitting your kids. It's no wonder so many of these people bought into COVID hysteria and have now become Talk Radio Americans with the intellectual depth of Clay Travis and Benny Johnson. You are failed normies who just want an opportunity to exert frivolous, unearned authority over a person with no ability to resist or counter you. You would be right at home in the HR department or the public school teacher's lounge or a civil rights law firm. You would be cozy and comfortable in the unempathetic, narcissistic Boomer generation, who just got done lecturing you about how you should eat saltines with a squirt of ketchup on them to save money and never experience joy so that you can afford a house in 20 years. And these people will call you a "liberal" for noticing.

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@fentanylbrownie if my wife gets unruly i'll pick her up and carry her to her bedroom, no need to hit
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tedious, man spanking is bad for the same reasons inflicting violence on a person (except in self defense) is bad. now take any garden variety argument for pacifism and there's the defense which, by the way, is why we have to keep using the terms hitting and pain and violence, because the pro-spanking crowd frequently fails to relate those terms
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Clive Ward@CliveWardauthor·
I could never really be friends with or spend any personal time with someone who doesn't immediately know the answer to this question. Sorry, but there it is. Not negotiable.
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emi@NoemiTitarenco·
@justalexoki i dont hit my kids BUT my daughter is exactly like me, headstrong, and reminds me of myself so much, I have often had moments where I realized how strong my parents must have been to not beat the shit out of me because DAMN.
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it must have felt so good to receive wisdom from your elders
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@punished_bobda @Alekillo10 @CristusVictor so fix them and dozens? you didn't learn after the first two or three? ever consider having your wife smack you with a rod from time to time?
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@2049er not sure what you get out of tone policing, but hitting your kids sounds bad because it is bad don't hit your kids
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Doomer@2049er·
You’re doing the liberal thing where you pretend not to understand the connotations of one versus the other. A spanking is very specific.,“hitting” is as vague as possible to make it sound abusive.
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@2049er what does the word "hit" mean, retard?

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@kenzietuff don't you know that hitting your kids is the based/trad/christian thing to do? i wish this could be the defining line between the retard right and the rest of us, but i'm seeing this take from otherwise intelligent people. a shame
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i'm not mad that the previous owners of my house deferred some maintenance i'm a little mad that the maintenance they deferred all involves water intrusion
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tantum@QuasLacrimas·
A few days ago I saw a tweet, which I can't find now, implying that using any sort of physical power to discipline your son (even to force him to go on time-outs etc.) makes him feel powerless and breaks his spirit. But in my experience boys who learn at an early age that they are powerless against their fathers and/or older brothers draw the conclusion that being strong is a really good thing, whereas boys who learn at a later age that they are powerless against strangers tend to resent strength and have moralistic complexes about it. Interested to hear which interpretation matches my mutuals' experiences.
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