Roger Thornhill
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Roger Thornhill
@ChipHomme
No, I didn't borrow Laura's Mercedes
North Dakota, USA शामिल हुए Temmuz 2015
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Here is a good analysis of the IAEA report right before the current strikes started. You don’t need private intelligence. This is all public.
Key items:
•Iran can convert its current stock of 60 percent enriched uranium into 233 kg of WGU in three weeks at the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FFEP), enough for 9 nuclear weapons, taken as 25 kg of weapon-grade uranium (WGU) per weapon.
•Iran has no civilian use or justification for its production of 60 percent enriched uranium, particularly at the level of hundreds of kilograms. Its rush to make much more, quickly depleting its stock of near 20 percent enriched uranium, which has a civilian use in research reactors.
- From the IAEA report: “The significantly increased production and accumulation of highly enriched uranium by Iran, the only non-nuclear-weapon State to produce such nuclear material, is of serious concern.”
isis-online.org/isis-reports/d…
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@APosoukh @AGHamilton29 When the alternative is a million plus dead its an alternative. Especially considering the bomb was a new weapon.
Youre an idiot
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@ChipHomme @AGHamilton29 Lol. Defensive war is not an excuse to use nuclear weapons
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@ChipHomme @Eb_V4_Pelt @Devon_Eriksen_ Germany was never an existential threat from which Europe needed saving. Communism was.
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Europe's disease is not a disease of America.
It is a disease of World War 2.
In 1946, after we rescued them from themselves and each other, Europeans crawled out of the rubble they had made of their continent, looked around at their mess, wept for a bit, and then formed the wrong conclusions.
They decided that ethnic nations are bad.
That patriotism is bad.
That supporting your tribe, in preference to random strangers, is bad.
They decided that these things had led to the horrors of global war and genocide in Europe itself, and so all vestiges of loyalty to one's own people must be stamped out.
Nations were, forever afterward, to be post-ethnic, post-cultural legal and economic units filled with... well, anyone, really. A bunch of people who didn't, in fact shouldn't, share values, goals, morals, customs, or even a common language.
Nations were to be mere fiefs, their boundaries determined by which set of political elites controlled them.
America, having not been smashed to rubble in WW2, did not share this view. We saw WW2 as an expensive adventure in bailing out Europe, which we spent our treasure and our blood on (including my own grandfather's life, and his chance to ever see his grandson) precisely because we shared cultural and ethical values with the people we were rescuing.
But they hate us for it.
They see our patriotism as fascism precisely because they see all patriotism as fascism.
Psychologists have long understood that humans respond to favors with gratitude only up until those favors become so great that they have no hope of repaying them.
At that point, their gratitude turns to resentment.
How dare we believe we did them a favor?
How dare I believe that my father gave up his father so Europe could be safe, peaceful, and free?
Don't we know that, because ${ELABORATE MENTAL GYMNASTICS}, we didn't do them any favors by fighting that war?
Don't we know that, because ${ANY PATRIOTISM = HITLER}, our love of our country and favoring of its interests makes us fascist and problematic?
Well, no. I don't know that.
I don't think any European nation is our ally any more.
Certainly, we have shared interests, but how much does that really matter, when they refuse to act in those shared interests, because they have come to believe that acting in your people's interest is bad?
They hate us too much to work with us.
They resent every ounce of the burden which they are asked to share.
Our support has made Europe into a pack of idle welfare recipients, complete with sense of entitlement and self-destructive behavior.
But if we didn't defend them... who would?
Their native populations have been purged of all patriotism, and who would blame them if they didn't fight for ruling elites that hate them?
Their imported third-world barbarians won't fight for them. The very idea is laughable.
What's left?
And what will make them wake up and think about these questions?
Perhaps they need to dig themselves out of the rubble of another war.

Landeur 🏴@Landeur
@CynicalPublius Please just take your bases and leave. Europe needs to stand on its own two feet, for sure. We outsourced our security to America. But that outsourcing was a catastrophe. The entire continent has been invaded and destroyed under your 'protection'. For the love of God, go.
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@APosoukh @AGHamilton29 You're going to drag Hiroshima into this?
You mean a defensive war that defeated the Imperial Japanese that attacked us and caused millions of deaths in China.
Your false moral equivalence is pathetic.
Move to a country that isn't a democracy
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@ChipHomme @AGHamilton29 This was a counter to Boco Haram reference. Otherwise, yes “democracies” have destroyed middle east and the only parties who used nukes - since this is where we started the discussion
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@ChipHomme @_A_Reader_ @neontaster You've misunderstood what I wrote, apparently. Here's the mockery you're trying to counter, as a reminder: "'yay, we sank an unarmed parade boat and left the sailors to drown'. That's winning in someone's world, I guess."
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@oslandd @_A_Reader_ @neontaster You clearly don't know how this works.
A military ship, regardless of how much munitions its carrying, isa legitimate target.
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@ChipHomme @_A_Reader_ @neontaster So unless the Iranian ship is believed (based on no reported evidence anywhere) to have gone elsewhere and filled full of ammo before the attack, it's an unarmed ship. But there's no convincing you, so I'll stop wasting my time.
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@APosoukh @AGHamilton29 And your puking up left wing nonsense from Brown University.
Pray tell how many "indirect deaths" are caused by the conflicts i listed.
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@ChipHomme @AGHamilton29 Lol. ME interventions by UN member nations destroyed multiple countries, killed 4 million, displaced 10 of millions - let’s worry about Boko Haram.
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@ChipHomme @_A_Reader_ @neontaster True, but "Visiting ships...usually do not carry a full combat load of live munitions, unless scheduled for a live-fire drill... Even during the sea phase, when drills and live firing take place, ships carry only tightly controlled ammunition limited to the specific exercises."
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@APosoukh @AGHamilton29 Wiping out terrorists is a net positive to the world. But go ahead keep puking up your antiwestern nonsense.
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@ChipHomme @AGHamilton29 Destroying countries is a cool line of business
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@APosoukh @AGHamilton29 You're the babbling about democracies causing the most carnage over the last few decades. That is objectively false.
Ukraine, Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, Congo, Ethiopia, Yemen, Myanmar, Boko Haram in Nigeria have caused far more suffering than anything democracies have caused.
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@ChipHomme @AGHamilton29 This has just since 2001. I can mention Korea, Vietnam etc. Which part of illegal in international law you don’t understand?
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@APosoukh @AGHamilton29 Apple meet orange. I was referring to direct deaths. And those types of "indirect" deaths are highly suspect.
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@APosoukh @AGHamilton29 Ummmm...no.
Do you just make stuff up?
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@ChipHomme @AGHamilton29 Ok, American wars in the ME killed over 4 million as far as I recall. Feeling better? If dictatorships are so bad, why not bomb UAE and Saudi?
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@APosoukh @AGHamilton29 You're the one babbling about how democracies are the big warmongers.
That is objectively false.
The Ukraine war has will over a million casualties.
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@ChipHomme @AGHamilton29 What about Russia? Russia commits its crimes, “democracies” commit theirs - Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya etc.
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@APosoukh @AGHamilton29 Violence is significantly down in Syria.
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@ChipHomme @AGHamilton29 Recent massacres of alawites, Kurds and Christians are proceeding along in a stable manner
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@oslandd @_A_Reader_ @neontaster That's pure Iranian propaganda.
No warship sails unarmed ffs.
Keep drinking the Iranian Mullahs koolaid.
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@ChipHomme @_A_Reader_ @neontaster They were literally participating in the International Fleet Review, with no ammo onboard as per the terms of the Review. But sure, I'm the idiot. Have fun with the no new wars president, in the notawar.
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@ChipHomme @_A_Reader_ @neontaster "yay, we sank an unarmed parade boat and left the sailors to drown". That's winning in someone's world, I guess.
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