Lawrence Hoffman

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Lawrence Hoffman

Lawrence Hoffman

@IntellProOrg

Executive Director / Institute For Intellectual Progress

Virginia, USA शामिल हुए Ekim 2016
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MaxedLuck
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@IntellProOrg @jorcar777 @FeelsGuy2003 is capable of comprehending an ordered universe, which would require that we possess a rational mind (Imago Dei). This also leads to Christianity, as this implies a personal relationship with God (this separates Science from mere Theism).
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@MaxedLuck @jorcar777 @FeelsGuy2003 To assert that Judaism “came from” Christianity is possibly the most laughable thing I’ve ever heard. The burden is on the Christian to heretically assert Jesus as the Messiah, lmao, not on Jews to assert he wasn’t 🤣🤣.
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MaxedLuck
MaxedLuck@MaxedLuck·
@IntellProOrg @jorcar777 @FeelsGuy2003 You may bring up Islam and Judaism, but they came from Christianity as has already been explained for Judaism, and I don't need to explain the origins of Islam I hope.
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Lawrence Hoffman
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@abr_atlas @FeelsGuy2003 Generally speaking, yes. According to your incorrect interpretation of my logic, Scientology would be closer to the truth than Christianity, but that wasn’t my argument.
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Atlas🇻🇦
Atlas🇻🇦@abr_atlas·
@IntellProOrg @FeelsGuy2003 I made no such argument, I’m using your logic that the further in time we come, the closer to the truth we come. So in the span of 800k years, 2000 years would certainly put us closer to truth. Anything beyond our experience now is purely speculative
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Lawrence Hoffman
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@MaxedLuck @jorcar777 @FeelsGuy2003 Just because something coincides with other advances in technology doesn’t equate to a causal relationship. The Agricultural and Industrial Revolutions were the main turning points. The agricultural revolution happened in multiple places around the world, irrespective of religion
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MaxedLuck
MaxedLuck@MaxedLuck·
@IntellProOrg @jorcar777 @FeelsGuy2003 Which is why Christianity has been the most important thing in history, naturally people who "could only seek peace in an afterlife" invent science (Francis Bacon), basically invent most important inventions (Christian Europe and the US which was Christian), and go to space.
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Lawrence Hoffman
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@abr_atlas @FeelsGuy2003 For some reason you must be assuming humanity is about to cease to exist? “To this point” is irrelevant given that there is a boundless future ahead. How would something occurring in recent history presuppose that it won’t be superseded in the future?
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Atlas🇻🇦
Atlas🇻🇦@abr_atlas·
@IntellProOrg @FeelsGuy2003 lol then I find it hard to reason how it disproves Christianity if the logic is that the longer time goes on, the closer to truth we come, when the truth that you state is idiotic has happened at the latter-most end of human history to this point
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Lawrence Hoffman
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@abr_atlas @FeelsGuy2003 That’s actually not what my point implies at all. I’d suggest actually trying to steelman the point correctly before creating your own straw-man argument 🤣.
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Atlas🇻🇦
Atlas🇻🇦@abr_atlas·
@IntellProOrg @FeelsGuy2003 Your point implies we would have discovered the truth much sooner yet only came to the realization in the smallest fraction of human history, which obviously isn’t true. You either have flawed reasoning or have no idea what point you’re making.
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@MaxedLuck @jorcar777 @FeelsGuy2003 The messianic prophecies were not fulfilled 🤣. Christianity is literally mass produced goyslop Salvation created to humor a shackled populace who could only seek peace in an afterlife.
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MaxedLuck
MaxedLuck@MaxedLuck·
@IntellProOrg @jorcar777 @FeelsGuy2003 Judaism literally ceased existing, the second temple was destroyed just as Jesus predicted and modern Judaism is literally about how God apparently put a bunch of loopholes in his laws. Modern Judaism is a heresy of Christianity.
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Lawrence Hoffman
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@MaxedLuck @jorcar777 @FeelsGuy2003 Actually modern Christianity is a heresy that branched from Judaism 🤣. Hence why we still have Jews today, since they clearly existed during the time of Jesus yet didn’t believe him to be the Messiah.
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MaxedLuck
MaxedLuck@MaxedLuck·
@IntellProOrg @jorcar777 @FeelsGuy2003 Actually long before that, Christianity is the continuation of Judaism (modern Judaism is a heresy than branched from Christianity). Judaism pre-dates written history, a fact acknowledged by all historians, which to be frank oral traditions are impossible to truly date.
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Lawrence Hoffman
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@TheKarusa15 @FeelsGuy2003 Nope, but Australopithecus and Erectus, sure. Tool use -> taming fire, etc. All technologies that humanity iterated on.
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@TheKarusa15 @FeelsGuy2003 Alright that includes neanderthals then. Their DNA is within the genetic code of most modern humans of European and Asian descent.
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Lawrence Hoffman
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@TheKarusa15 @FeelsGuy2003 According to your logic, the “specificity” in the term H. sapiens is lacking. Use specific Ethnic groups instead. It’s more functionally useful.
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Karusa - (The Macedonian)
@IntellProOrg @FeelsGuy2003 Yes but they are not humanity today. That's H. sapiens. I couldn't care less about your point, I care about your intrusion into humanity's credit, and the fact that you starting slinging insults over it like a right Jew.
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Karusa - (The Macedonian)
@IntellProOrg @FeelsGuy2003 It's specificity vs lumping. When you mention us discovering something, only one of "us" were here to do that. Which is us, human beings. Not the blokes in the ground.
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@TheKarusa15 @FeelsGuy2003 They are part of the iterative history of humanity and the point being made is that Christianity, like other “discovered knowledge”, was never the *apex* of truth as history progressed.
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Karusa - (The Macedonian)
@IntellProOrg @FeelsGuy2003 Would you like a banana with that you big brolic eyebrow ridged baboon? Don't argue semantics when your comment was flawed from the start, cunt. If you want to argue about Christianity, at least get your science right, fucking idiot.
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Lawrence Hoffman@IntellProOrg·
@TheKarusa15 @FeelsGuy2003 Yes, if I say “us” and am referencing all human groups, then yes, that is logically consistent. Please explain how “us” wouldn’t include neanderthals if my terminology was referencing them within the “us” group to begin with. Jfc.
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Karusa - (The Macedonian)
@IntellProOrg @FeelsGuy2003 Hey champ, when you try to lump Neaderthals as humans to make your 800k point, and then use 'us' in the same comment saying we figured it out 2k years ago, you're including Neanderthals with -us- humans, when it's two different lineages you fucking shit for brains.
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Lawrence Hoffman
Lawrence Hoffman@IntellProOrg·
@TheKarusa15 @FeelsGuy2003 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ >make post debating Christianity >Genuine autistic fggot makes the debate about anthropology. It doesn’t get more sperged out than this.
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Lawrence Hoffman
Lawrence Hoffman@IntellProOrg·
@TheKarusa15 @FeelsGuy2003 “Goalpost shift”. How dense are you? I used a colloquial term in a Christianity debate and you’re splitting hairs over archaeological terminology. Are you genuinely autistic?
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Karusa - (The Macedonian)
@IntellProOrg @FeelsGuy2003 If you wanna goalpost shift to the wider fossil record and lump Neanderthals with us humans, which is what we mean by 300k (H. sapiens) then sure, goalpost shift. If you wanna be an underdeveloped fucking neanderthal, be my guest bro.
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