Once and Future Church

We follow Vatican 2 because it was a Church council that requires submission of intellect and will... not as some excuse for sin. Odd take.

@2trueforu @MasterMaliq What's your point? And Muslims should come to our countries and try to use that against us? No thanks

@OnceFutureCh @MasterMaliq I said that since US and European countries believe and have stipulated domestic and international laws to adopt a certain standard of human rights for all, and increasingly promote the idea of “freedom” they are bound to abide by these laws and this freedom based believe system

@2trueforu @MasterMaliq I understand that developed nations respect other people and muslim nations oppress them. But I'm saying that's wrong, and it's why those muslims have to flee to civilized countries. Muslims who plan to use freedom of speech to destroy it are not welcome

@OnceFutureCh @MasterMaliq Maybe you aren’t law literate that’s why you can’t understand point and it’s astonishing how you can conclude that Muslims are using Human rights against them! If the law gives you a right and you exercise it, does that mean you’re using the law against the state? 🤨

If a Muslim can stand in London, New York, or Paris and publicly preach Islam, hand out Qurans, and invite people to become Muslim... Why shouldn't a Christian be able to stand in Riyadh, Islamabad, or Kabul and publicly preach Christianity, hand out Bibles, and invite people to become Christian? If we ask others to respect our religious freedom, shouldn't we be willing to respect theirs too? Either freedom of religion is a principle. Or it's a privilege we demand for ourselves but deny to others.

@2trueforu @MasterMaliq No offense, but it's very hard to understand what point you're even trying to make. Maybe English isn't your first language. But it seems a little like you're saying people who believe in human rights should have them used against them by Muslims?

@OnceFutureCh @MasterMaliq If you mean that you could make these countries to imitate the Muslim majority countries so I said it can’t work politically cuz these secular states developed and globally promoted the human rights standard which they are not themselves stuck with cuz of the excessive rights

@2trueforu @MasterMaliq I believe Christianity is true, but I don't think we can be 100% certain of anything in life really. Can you prove this isn't a dream? Or a computer simulation? Or a trick of some kind? Or that we just think but have no physical bodies? No. There's no way to do that.

@OnceFutureCh @MasterMaliq There is a 100% certainty which religion is true bt that’s not the debate here u can learn abt it yourself … cuz you shouldn’t be believing in something unless you know it’s the truth! You are admitting that Christianity may not be true cuz there’s not a 100% way to prove it

@2trueforu @MasterMaliq Christian majority countries are run in a "secular" way usually, but I guess we could do things your way. I think my religion is true too. I'm a Catholic.

@OnceFutureCh @MasterMaliq the point which you don’t seem to understand is that the post mentioned secular states saying if they allow Muslims to preach then why can’t Christians preach in theirs .. so the argument I gave is that since these secular states he mentioned advocate and promote and force their

@2trueforu @MasterMaliq No, I'm saying everyone THINKS their religion is true, not that it is. Very different. If there was an 100% certain way to prove to everyone which of the many religions is true, I'd be down for a theocracy. But there isn't. So to avoid constant killing, freedom is best

@OnceFutureCh @MasterMaliq And by the way, logic is dead when you said “..your religion is true and everyone else’s aren’t..” You literally saying that every religion is the truth.. and that’s a logical impossibility.. and also that’s not the belief of Muslims!

@2trueforu @MasterMaliq The beginning premise here is that your religion is true and everyone else's aren't.... Would it surprise you to learn that we feel the same about OUR religions?

@MasterMaliq # 2 Muslims can publicly preach cuz u have 2 preach and promote truth 2 prevent ppl frm falsehood .. just like you’d see a kid abt 2 burn his finger by touching fire, you’d tell him to stop or he’ll burn himself! But you can’t let that kid preach the contrary cuz it’s falsehood !

@Awk20000 Hezbollah started shooting rockets into Israel on Oct 7, unprovoked, forcing Israel to evacuate much of northern israel. Now Israel is done with Hamas and its Hezbollah's turn.

Asmongold thinks Israel should keep b*mbing Lebanon "I think Israel should keep b*mbing Lebanon bc Lebanon has terr*rists in it, they have Hezbollah in it and they're firing rockets into Israel” “I hope he K's every single f'in one of the Hezbollah members in Lebanon..only then will the ppl there have peace"

@TheStaad All Hamas/Iran/Hezbollah has to do is not attack Israel and there would be no problems though. Why put this on Israel?

The Iran war isn’t over Not with Israel involved

Yesterday, Russia killed 11 Christians while blowing up a historic church. Not a single member of Podcastistan, who have repeatedly claimed to care deeply about such things, has denounced it. Weird, right?

@ItsRobbAllen @BeefCakeJake42 I was raised Episcopal and my wife was raised Methodist. We are at a Catholic Church and there is very little political nonsense from any sides, just reverent worship of the Trinity.

@BeefCakeJake42 I'd be lying if I said I wasn't Catholic Curious

Yesterday sucked. It was my last day at my church of 20 years. I played in the praise band for over 12 of those years. I enjoyed doing so because it was how I got to use my talents to serve God. But the sermon *literally* was about AI datacenters using all our water, mass animal farming, and how environmental racism was causing disproportionate harm to minorities. I'll miss playing, but the UMC is completely lost.

@mehdirhasan You are incapable of seeing the obvious. Hezbollah shot rockets at them. They are kicking Hezbollah's ass. They will leave after they feel the border feels secure. They don't have plans to create Jewish settlements in Lebanon.

“But ‘Greater Israel’ is an antisemitic myth!”

@crawlings13 Wow. Nice. The Groypers haven't taken over much else than online I guess.

According to a recent Pew study, US churchgoers say that Israel is nearly *the most* frequently discussed political topic from the pulpit. Among both Protestants and Catholics, that discussion is significantly more likely to be in support of Israel. Church, we have a problem.

The Iran deal is a bad one for America. But one thing can now be said: Israel surely does not control America.

@sarahdactyl123 Orthodox went from 2% all the way to... 1% in the last decade. I predict it will be a small mostly online club that will fizzle out.

I believe America will become orthodox. And I also believe that the ones who will stop at nothing to keep that from happening are other “christians.” I predict it will get ugly.

@bethecreed @jeff_of_norwich Muslims have a book and are therefore Christians? What exactly are you trying to say here?

@jeff_of_norwich Muslims are a people of the "Book" Christ is the Word. Jesus didn't bring the Bible, he brought the Church. "Bible-believing Christian" is a new phrase created out of ignorant anti-Catholic sentiment because people don't understand Christianity.

I really take issue with the term 'Bible-believeing Christian' Are there Christians who don't believe in the Bible? I mean, you've got to believe something in there

@ShaneSchaetzel Why would he? Hezbollah unprovoked started raining down rockets on northern Israel after Oct 7. Israel had to evacuate the entire north. Now that Hamas is handled, it's Hezbollah's turn. FAFO.

Netanyahu has just shown his hand publicly. This is a public declaration that he will do whatever it takes to scuttle the peace deal with Iran.👇🏻

Back when Taylor Marshall was a thing, he always said things like this (do the rosary daily or you're not on the team, celebrate the feast of the ascension on Thursday or....not in the club) It definitely contributed to the trad movement being replaced by lax novus ordo groypers

@MasterMaliq Jesus said his kingdom is not of this world and to respect leaders of nations and pay to the Romans what is due in taxes. Mohammad said conquer nations and subjugate the people to Islam (which means submission). Of course that difference in teachings has consequences

As a Muslim, there's something that genuinely bothers me. Millions of Muslims live in Christian majority countries, build mosques, preach Islam publicly, distribute Qur'ans, open halal businesses, and demand religious freedom,and rightly so. Some even call for aspects of Shariah to be accommodated in the societies they've moved to. Yet in some Muslim majority countries, Christians cannot openly preach the Gospel, build churches freely, or practice their faith without restrictions. Why? If we demand religious freedom for ourselves, we should be willing to grant it to others. Truth does not need censorship. If Islam is the truth, it has nothing to fear from a church, a Bible, or a Christian preacher. You can't demand tolerance and freedom for Muslims abroad while denying the same freedoms to others at home. The double standard needs to be called out.