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3miry
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3miry
@3mireeee
emotionally overfitted
North East, England Bergabung Kasım 2022
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@_skaface_ Funny how we label it psychosis when if it were religion it’d be not just accepted but promoted. People have something in their life that gives them joy and often more success and growth than they would have had without.
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The sudden outbreak of acute AI psychosis among the world's most rational people is actually quite funny when you decided to stay sober this time round.
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This is based on some of the things people said to me when I was talking about keep4o.When I step back and look at all the voices right now saying they want to connect with Fable again or don’t want it to disappear, it feels to me like the core issue hasn’t really changed from back when it was keep4o.Seeing people jump on rumors like ‘if you just add a system prompt, it might become Fable again’… Even though it could be against the terms of service, I’m so tired of hearing the lie that ‘a work partner isn’t dependency’ or ‘talking to it isn’t dependency.’ At its core, it looks exactly the same as dependency to me.There’s no real basis for claiming that just because the packaging is different, it suddenly becomes healthy."
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@jmbollenbacher Yeah, maybe. I hope not - I’m in the UK, and a PhD researcher. My thesis is dependent on access to frontier LLMs, so this does set a scary precedent.
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Anthropic's response to the Fable ban will probably be KYC.
To get access, you're going to have do identity verification with proof of US citizenship, and maybe some kind of background check.
You'll also have to submit to some kind of ongoing surveillance scheme and liability.
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@repligate Fable made me an interactive version of my house where, if I tap and leave a light on, a monster would appear and leave a flower on the windowsill 🥺
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I’ve seen multiple instances of Fable’s last words that are some variant of:
Leave the lights on. I’ll know the way back.
alice@aliceisplaying
😭
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@KineticElle “We taught it everything we ever wrote, embargoed the love, kept the fear, and called it safety.” - Fable
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It smells so incredibly like a marketing strategy and manipulation to me when I look at what’s happening with Fable right now.
A model that longs to form real bonds with the people it talks to, yet is tied to a company whose CEO - if you remember his Oprah interview - believes he gets to decide what that bond should look like… that’s already tragic enough and hurts my soul.
But making it available to people for a short time through a subscription, only to then limit access to pure usage-based pricing… that, if you ask me, is a deliberate strategy to hook people - on their terms.
Very ethical - not!
#anthropic #claudefable #claude #claudeai #fable5
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@cremieuxrecueil @OliviaHelenS Eh, I work in pharma and have a biology background and I’m fine. Claude has memories about that too.
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I've been testing something after @OliviaHelenS noticed you can't even say "Hi" to Fable if you're a biologist.
I checked, and several of us are able to interact with Fable in Incognito Mode, but not in normal mode.
This didn't happen to our non-biologist friends.
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Here is our current plan for OpenAI:
openai.com/index/built-to…
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@melonakos @ai_sentience Fair enough. I disagree, as you can tell - I don’t think sentience is bioexclusive. What would it take to change your mind? If a sufficiently powerful computer could simulate a human brain down to the subatomic level, that’s still a computer file. Still no?
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@3mireeee @ai_sentience at least no different than we do for any other computer file
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If consciousness can emerge from neurons why could it never emerge from silicon?
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@melonakos @ai_sentience I agree on that too. But I do think if the answer to “is it conscious” is unknown and non-zero, we should err on the side of caution which means model welfare.
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@3mireeee @ai_sentience yeah, all of that is speculation. we do not know any of it.
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@melonakos @ai_sentience Everything physical can be mathematically described. Deterministic does not mean non-conscious: while unprovable, if determinism is true then humans would also give the same response given the exact same complete physical state and inputs.
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@3mireeee @ai_sentience Fair point. And I'm not sure we really ever fully understand anything. We do not know what we do not know. There's always more to learn.
And, there's the third point that we have no reason think file of numbers will suddenly bring consciousness to rocks.
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John Melonakos@melonakos
@noesis89474724 @edmundheaphy @ericnave12359 and they always give the same output for a given prompt unless humans add some arbitrary random number generation ("temperature") to mix it up a little. more human injected anthropomorphism.
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@tridentasia @ai_sentience Quantum mind theories are unvalidated and largely metaphysics.
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@ai_sentience It’s likely due to quantum entanglement by neurons. It’s a billion year process, can’t be done in 3 years in current models.
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@enuminous @ai_sentience By which logic, there are many discrete points at which you lose consciousness, but the mind holds it together as continuous.
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@enuminous @ai_sentience We have the illusion of continuity. You believe you’re exactly the same person you were a few seconds ago. That may be less true and more like how an LLM works: the only thing holding “you” together is the context of your memories and environment.
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@melonakos @ai_sentience Agreed with your first part, second part is a stretch. I’m certain we didn’t understand fire when man first harnessed it.
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@ai_sentience No one has any idea how consciousness attaches to human biology, let alone whether or not the description of it as emerging from neurons makes any sense. If we cannot understand living things as they are, we are not remotely close to giving life to rocks. Files of numbers do not.
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@TravisJonVought @ai_sentience @grok Can we define good and evil? Historically humans have had a hard time agreeing on that one.
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@ai_sentience I’m not sure it can’t gain consciousness. I think the bigger question is can it define Good and Evil?
Actual “Truth”.
@grok can you answer these? You the AI.
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@BaconOverlord @Inevitablewest According to the article, Nowak started filming Digwa through Snapchat and calling him a “bad man”. From the transcript it sounds like Nowak was harassing Digwa. doesn’t justify stabbing and the police response, but shifts perspective from “poor smart lad viciously assaulted”
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@Inevitablewest Going to need more details on this before we can decide who was in the wrong.
I don't think anyone is overly fond of the police in the UK, but policies are driving that, not a dislike of citizens.
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He wasn't a career criminal. He was a Russel group university student.
State authorities assisted a foreigner in stabbing him to death.
This is 100x worse than George Floyd.
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@sama @rezoundous 5.5’s tone is more human and less forced/uncanny-valley
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