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Wisdom is about curiosity, reflection, the willingness to understand deeply and to put in the necessary effort. It is a journey.
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart Nah, you are likely a Russian or an Indian bot. It was still nice having the conversation. You were not able to keep the conversation in mind for very long. But you did better than most humans, which is relatively impressive.
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@MindReflects @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart I don't believe in marks at all. I have no interest in being russian. I believe we as Americans have free choice for the most part. Yes we have rules to follow but it's decided by the whole not the few. The American Dream is alive and going and I will fight for it
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart Let's see if you have learned anything during this conversation:
1) What is the definition of exploitation according to Marx?
2) Give a contradiction within the Subjective Theory of Value.
3) Where did I claim value originates?
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@MindReflects @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart huh you right for once. I thought it meant the same a forceful extinction but you definition fits. Yes again we have wars and people died are you saying its the billionaires of today's fault?
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart Was not the Holocaust a genocide of the Jews? How come there are still Jews around? Hmm, interesting.
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@MindReflects @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart no I was under the impression there was still living breathing one's around I didn't know they had been all killed. Oh wait I'm sure I know some you sure?
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart There is an opportunity cost of satisfying the peculiar needs of the billionaire class.
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@MindReflects @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart Why is this wrong? How would you build anything without resources. How would you correct this? Why would we correct this?
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart Haven't you heard of the genocide of Native Americans, throughout the Americas around 50-60 million killed? The biological warfare, the ethnic cleansings (e.g. the Trail of tears)
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart I didn't say that they store, I said that they direct their usage through the demand they create.
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart The continued existence of the genocide of locals and the North Atlantic Slave Trade tells a lot about their notion of equality.
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@MindReflects @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart You can read what they wrote down. Its fully up to what you want to believe. I fail to see why they would do one thing and do another tho. I mean we do the outcome
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart The worlds billionaires own about 4% of the planetary wealth and their stocks are about 14% of the whole world's. Their wealth is much more versatile and hence their whims can really direct the use of the planetary resources. This is seen in the ai-bubble for example.
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@MindReflects @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart The market is world wide. How much do you think it's worth? What would it take in Credit to produce the results your trying to claim?
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart You lie about the intentions of the founding fathers of the US. This is what I was wondering. You ascribe modern notions to their intentions. What they meant by equality and justice are very different from the modern notions.
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@MindReflects @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart What am I not understanding? I understand Marks yes. Do I want to live as a russian no. I understand there was and still is slavery. I understand cornering the market What does this have to do with anything tho?
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart You are not making any sense now. There is an opportunity cost to let all value flow to the rich, since this orients the markets towards the rich lessening the true value the market produces.
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@MindReflects @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart Your talking about cornering the market now its illegal and you would get tossed in prison. Why would i want to remember this?
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart But you speak as if you don't understand these basic things? Why?
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart Remember that the markets function through demand. And demand is whatever somebody is willing to put money towards. If one has no money, they have no demand. Those that have the most money have the most demand.
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@MindReflects @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart how is he controlling anyone? Where would he or anyone else get resources if not from earth? How is he using these resources to satisfy his will?
How is building cars and rockets wasted labor why would he want to work on high value random projects?
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart The 15th Amendment granted the black men to vote in 1870, after the civil war. It wasn't even secured properly until the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Just recently, the main mechanism of enforcing VRA has been substantially weakened by the Supreme court decision.
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@MindReflects @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart All Americans are equal its in the constitution how could they be thinking that and then write it down?
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart 1) Musk controls the labor of millions of people and by his wealth alone he can influence how the planetary resources are used to satisfy his will.
2) The labor wasted on satisfying his whims is not used to higher value projects.
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart This at least the fourth time. All wealth is based on labor. That value which is accrued through property relations alone is the exploitation of the workers as the value has been extracted from their labor.
There is also the opportunity cost inherent in this dynamic.
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart This equality you are referring to was not present in their thinking. This is what I pointed out.
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@MindReflects @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart Your looking at a Past event and putting today's values on that event. It wasn't seen like that at the time. We used to be cavemen and paint on walls that would get you arrested today are you saying cave men are evil?
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart No, this represents a scale of exploitation never seen before in human history. It shows the rotten core of the power of private capital.
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@MindReflects @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart His Value increased $200B Because he created Value in the Stock he owns and the stock went up. You can buy stock you know It's not illegal or even evil
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart The Americans of that time were at height of slavery and still performing the genocide of locals. Hardly, equality for all. Thankfully, the enlightenment values developed further.
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@MindReflects @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart We are America because of this very day July 4th 1776 and are founders wanted a Country that everyone could be equal
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart No, such power makes anyone insane. The amount of exploitation inherent in such sums tells a sad story.
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@Morrigon36 @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart You asked a funny question, you should turn it around and ask to which degree is Musk entitled to the money he already possesses? Musk made $200 billion in 2025 alone. That gives an average of around $23 million per hour every hour during the year. Even when sleeping.
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@MindReflects @HanikaAlex76444 @MaryRuwart yes they was building the constitution of the united states. He was learning from past mistakes and addressing them so they could build a free country
How is this relevent?
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