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@imetatronink Since it makes sense to recover downed flight crew using a precisely targeted stealth op at night, with small choppers, that explains why US recovered them somewhere else with flashbangs, sparklers, troop carriers and hundreds of troops over several days, to keep it all secret?

🤔 Relevant Data Points and My Thoughts Data Points: 🔹 The alleged "F-15E" crash site has been geolocated to a site not far from Isfahan and the Natanz nuclear site. 🔹 The HC-130J can carry TWO MH-6 "Little Bird" helicopters + ~10 troops. 🔹 The HC-130J can carry ONE MH-6 and ~60 troops. 🔹 Absent any MH-6 helicopters, the HC-130J can carry ~90 troops or ~64 paratroopers (as in soldiers fully loaded to jump out of them). 🔹 HC-130Js have no purpose in the context of a CSAR mission to rescue a single pilot. My Thoughts: 🔹 A pilot rescue is clearly not the whole story. 🔹 The proximity of the action to Isfahan and Natanz lends credence to the theory that the REAL object of this mission was to seize nuclear materials (as absurd as that mission would have been!). 🔹 It is probable that MORE than TWO HC-130Js were involved. 🔹 The bare-dirt agricultural airstrip was undoubtedly known and mapped as an emergency ditching site, but was NOT envisioned as an operational drop zone. 🔹 The foolhardy mission flew into an Iranian ambush, and TWO of the HC-130Js were hit, and forced to use the agricultural airstrip as an emergency ditching site, where they crash-landed hard with their full loads, and were disabled. 🔹 The Iranians attempted to rush troops and firepower to the remote site in order to encircle the stranded aircraft and troops (according to the IRGC spokesman). 🔹 The US managed to rush 3 Airbus C-295s to the site to evacuate the stranded aircrew and troops. 🔹 As the IRGC spokesman himself claimed in his report from earlier today, the US used jet aircraft to bomb to smithereens the stranded HC-130Js and the off-loaded MH-6 helicopters. 🔹 After absorbing the shocking results of the failed mission, the US triumphantly claimed the pilot was rescued, the operation was a brilliant success, and the US has the greatest military in human history. Anyway, these are my thoughts for now. I reserve the right to amend them as more information becomes available.

In making sense of a complex event, it's often best to start with the facts and then work backwards from there. So what are we to make of this weekend in Iran? My theory is we just saw an attempt to seize Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium unravel. Down the rabbit hole.⬇️ Let's run through the timeline and the location of key events first: The evening of April 2nd, the Iranian military released a video of them shooting down a USAF aircraft. This was initially claimed as having occurred over the Persian Gulf, but apparently occurred near Isfahan. Wreckage corresponding to an F-15E of the 494th Tactical Fighter Squadron was recovered from a site south of Isfahan the morning of April 3rd, although geolocation of the very barren crash site took some time (fig. 1). The afternoon of April 3rd, a number of USAF HH-60s and an HC-130 fueler (!) were spotted operating further south and west in Iran, over Kogiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad Province, as well as at least one A-10, an MQ-9 Reaper, and apparently an F-35. An antiaircraft battle developed and the Combat Search and Rescue (CSAR) HH-60s (fig.2) and an A-10 were damaged, with the A-10's pilot ejecting over the Persian Gulf. The HH-60s were reported as "damaged" and one was photographed trailing smoke. Reports emerged at that time that the pilot of the F-15E (which had crashed near Isfahan, although this was then-unclear!) had been rescued, while the WSO remained at large. Provincial authorities in Kohgiluyeh asked civilians to be on the lookout for an American aviator around this time and numerous photos of militia searching for him emerged. The next day passed relatively uneventfully. The evening of April 4th, however, there was a report of more helicopter activity slightly further north, in Chaharmahal and Bakhtiari Province, accompanied by a washed-out photograph of an unknown helicopter flying very low on a very dark night (fig. 3). Later that night news emerged that the F-15Es WSO had been rescued... and that C-130s had been abandoned and scuttled at a forward base in the Isfahan area during the withdrawal of a company-size SOF force that had landed in the area, over 100 operators ostensibly having been sent to rescue one aviator. Photographs that emerged as dawn broke showed two burned-out C-130s and several destroyed MH-6 Little Bird SOF assault helicopters, in a scene reminiscent of the aftermath of Operation Eagle Claw (fig. 4). A USAF C-295 tactical transport was caught on video around that time flying in Iran - presumably outbound - at extremely low altitude. So, what are we to make of this? First and foremost, the official story - that a huge direct-action SOF force landed near Isfahan with assault helicopters and heavy transport aircraft to rescue one fugitive airman - is nonsense. Not because the USAF won't go to extreme lengths to recover isolated personnel - it can, will, and did in this case - but because that's an absolutely nonsensical way to accomplish that mission. It's a totally inappropriate force package for a mission to go in, extract a single person from a remote area, and leave. Ergo this SOF task force was there on other business. So how were the pilots actually recovered? In all likelihood, exactly the way you would expect them to be recovered - by USAF PJs in long-range helicopters, under cover of darkness. The rescue force probably recovered the pilot from the Isfahan area late at night on April 2-3 and were caught in daylight as they exfiltrated, leading to the aforementioned antiaircraft battle the morning of April 3rd and a high-risk refueling over Iranian territory that was filmed by many Iranians on the ground, as well as a shot-down A-10 trying to clear a path for the helicopters to exfiltrate. The WSO was likely recovered from his hide site near Isfahan by HH-60 in a quiet and deliberate operation the night of April 4-5. One or two birds, in and out under cover of darkness - a far cry from the gung-ho stories currently being spun. So what about the SOF rodeo happening at the same time? Well, why was an F-15 flying downtown to Isfahan the evening of April 2nd to begin with? Probably because there was a huge direct-action raid planned in the Isfahan area for the night of April 4-5, likely going after enriched uranium at an underground facility in the region, and the Iranian air defenses around Isfahan weren't going to suppress themselves. The plan was likely to fly several MH-6 assault birds and a sizable force of operators via C-130 and C-295 to a forward staging area near Isfahan the evening of April 4th, hit a reported cache site or sites for enriched uranium, and try to make it out with the magic dust by daybreak on April 5th. In any event the USAF wasn't going to send transports somewhere it wouldn't send strike aircraft. So the Air Force cashed its check on claims of air superiority and in went the strike package the evening of April 2nd - and lo and behold one of the F-15Es went down because reports of the demise of the Iranian air defense network had been greatly exaggerated. Any rational planner would have scrubbed the SOF operation at this point because they'd lost control of the situation and the Iranian defenses had proven more effective than planned. We went ahead anyways and inserted the SOF task force the evening of April 4th. I strongly suspect that this force was immediately discovered by Iranian drones that would have been up and searching for this WSO, because five transport aircraft including at least two C-130s (about what would be required for a bunch of Little Birds and a company-sized element of operators with equipment) landing at a desert airstrip 50km from Isfahan (and in the same general area where the WSO was taking cover) would be pretty God-damn obvious to anything with thermals. Iranian troops immediately deployed and began converging, the task force probably took indirect fire, and the operational commander immediately aborted mission and retreated in the three remaining operational aircraft. Scuttling charges on delayed fuzes burned two C-130s and an unknown number of MH-6s that had been abandoned at the airstrip around dawn. The story that they were there to rescue the WSO was concocted at that time to cover the disastrously failed raid, as were logistically implausible claims that the task force had been rescued by three additional aircraft after the two C-130s got stuck on the LZ and were scuttled - perhaps to minimize the scale of the effort. Claims that a large battle took place appear to be similarly exaggerated - video has emerged of a single group of Iranian militia apparently killed in a drone strike, but nothing of the nonstop bombing and firefights that were rumored across Telegram all night. I remind the reader that the events of the last few days have proven quite conclusively that Iranians seem to have plenty of internet access to post photos and video when they actually have something worthwhile to film. I'd like to note that Hegseth fired General George - US Army Chief of Staff - on April 2nd, apparently because he just wasn't a good fit for the job and definitely not because he'd told him that this whole scheme was insane. It seems to me that the good General's advice should have perhaps been heeded.

@NightlarkSteve @LindaSayle Seems likely - £215k was just for 2025, apparently. Tel Aviv must be impressed that she's so reliable.

@fredulosity @LindaSayle 400k now apparently…

The only true words you ever uttered were when you said : " I am a Zionist without qualification". You have spent your time serving the interests of the genocidal entity Israel, not the interests of the British people.

@FreeSpeech_0 @DavidMcNab17 The three "parties" are all franchises of the Reflabatory uniparty. They have the same agenda, the same objectives, the same wealthy backers and US/Zionist drivers. Vote for whichever you want, it's all the same greasy burger.

@DavidMcNab17 I hope everyone has learned not to listen to celebs telling us not to vote Conservative - there was more than enough evidence to show Zionist Labour would be worse.

By ‘noise’ of course Starmer means us, the people, the voters. By British national interest he means the Davos/Epstein/ Zionist elite he serves. Apparently we served our purpose when we gave him a majority. We can fuck off now.

@D_Raval Labour, the party that reneged on all its Pledges, is so happy to allow raw sewage in rivers they've told OFWAT to back off, pushes for illegal war on two fronts, supports genocide, flogs our NHS data to Palantir and plans mandatory digital ID? That Labour? May it rot in hell.

It's not just the people don't want to vote for Labour, they want to stand for Labour. For n established party that is the government not being able to find candidates is a death sign. Let's finish Labour off on May 7th.

@TheGrandTourist @joecguinan Anyone who can say that "racketeering was nothing to do with being poor" is beyond reason. And the notion that people in the 1940s were moral paragons is deluded trolling. Bye.

@fredulosity @joecguinan Of course I know, racketeering was nothing to do with being poor, it was organised crime. Still people in 1940s didn’t commit casual shop thefts. There was still law. To compare the two is nonsense and you know it.

Imagine thinking this is a story about petty criminality rather than what it really is, a story about the collapse in living standards and the cost of living crisis. These people pretend to love Britain but actually just love Thatcherism and hate its victims, the British people.

@Heccles94 Many NHS workers do not spend years training for their specialization. Wes Streeting obviously has no qualifications to do what he's doing so he should be compensated on the same pay grade as a cleaner.

Poor pay for one group does not justify poor pay for another. What an awful sentiment. The NHS needs all NHS workers to have their pay restored.

We have a government willing to harm the public they are supposed to serve, in pursuit of punishing a profession exercising its legal right to strike. The irony that this is from a Labour government, funded by trade unions. What an absolute disgrace. Sickening.

@danielgoyal Wes Streeting wants to pipe down. In May 2015 as a brand new MP with no experience, he started on a salary of around 74K. On the same date, an FY1 would have started on 22,636K basic & a Consultant, on just over 75K. It's not Resident Doctors or the BMA who are breaking the NHS.

Let's not beat about the bush here: a madman is threatening to escalate the biggest geopolitical crisis in my lifetime, and where is the UK government? On holiday, conveniently pretending to ignore the "it's not our war" issue.

I know Mandelson got you into a nice cosy relationship with Palantir, @Keir_Starmer, and your government has put hundreds of millions their way, but would you please take note of this?

@martinshawx @BBC @Channel4News If they get a jury trial they will be released. If they do not, they will not. So we can clearly see why getting rid of jury trials is such an important issue for David Lammy, one of Starmer's better-paid Zionist colleagues (e.g. £70k from Gary Lubner in Nov 2023).

The rebellion against the UK’s role supporting the illegal US destruction of Iran is growing. Time perhaps for @BBC and @Channel4News to cover this and question Starmer’s lie that the UK is not involved?

@InWicc @lorraine_teuten They do think we are stupid, and in one way, we are because someone voted for this evil trog.

Yvette Cooper has come to represent everything that is wrong about Epstein Labour: the lying, the double-speak, the gaslighting, the so-obviously false constructed narratives. She talks about "Iranian recklessness" while her own country is a platform for the illegal US attacks.

@snowleopardess The Streeting plan continues.

The arrogance of Streeting and Starmer, the contempt with which they treat the nation's health, is breathtaking.