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@schrodingersmeh So you’re special pleading? Presupp is “retarded” when someone else uses it, but valid when you use it? I’ll ask again. (Don’t mention conceptualism) WHAT distinguishes oxygen and hydrogen?

@null00333 I'm speaking specifically of the "presup" model as it relates to your (and your fellow practiotioners') presupposition. As stated a million times, there's ZERO certainty in metaphysics. Presuppers claim they have it. They don't. Answer is the same as the last 15 times.

@vant008- Vanquished like a lil' bitch! 🤣

@ultralevixz47 Unless you’re someone famous, you likely aren’t even in the “competition” for that specific person

Being a guy is crazy cuz the moment you turn 20 ur competing with ur childhood heros for women ur age

@lodgiktech @kaizen000000000 Also, quoting the comment that you clearly didn’t understand as a means of explaining why you arrived at a dumb conclusion, isn’t answering how you arrived at the dumb conclusion

@null00333 @kaizen000000000 Based on what you said above. "Slavery is immoral because humans do not get to decide to view others as inferior. But god isn’t human and has set up a system to bring forth ultimate good in the end." Feel free to clarify what you meant.

Is slavery immoral? Yes. Is the Bible the word of God? Yes. Is God moral? Yes. Then why did say you can own slaves?? Matt Dillahunty🗣️ If God decides morality then morality becomes arbitrary…… If morality exists independently then God isn’t the source of morality

@lodgiktech @kaizen000000000 Yes, that is why slavery is immoral. Because it would require humans who are all equal and made in gods image, to decide amongst themselves, that certain groups are inferior. Even worse is forced racial slavery which is not what was mentioned in the Bible. Where does it say “hu

@schrodingersmeh But you said: “The retarded presupp model” so why are you doing presupp? That’s not an answer to the question I asked. Are you retarded? What distinguishes oxygen and hydrogen? Answer the question. I didn’t ask why conceptualists believe. What distinguishes O and H?

@null00333 Yes. All metaphysics have absolute presuppositions. It's requisite. As stated presuppers also have their own (though retarded) presuppositions. Answer number 15: Conceptualists believe abstracts exist in the mind, therefore numbers, as abstracts, exist in the mind

@ChannelDogYT @Oldman_Art So are you saying that 19 isn’t an adult and that we should create another category between “minor” and “adult” akin to “adult in practice”?

@Oldman_Art 2 adults. One has been an adult for 30 years, the other is still not even old enough to drink. Surely you see the issue.

It's not the P word. I can't call him the P word. But 50 year olds have no real romantic business with 20 year olds. There's a big maturity gap and power imbalance. It's inappropriate and questionable. Enjoying his Spider-Man movies doesn't make this societally acceptable.

@ChannelDogYT So as long as there isn’t a maturity gap, it’s okay? “Power imbalance” exists because men are men and women are women and men are typically stronger. So are you saying men shouldn’t date women that are stronger than them?

@lodgiktech @kaizen000000000 How did you lead to this conclusion? Your reading comprehension is lacking. Reread what I said.

@null00333 @kaizen000000000 So humans have a better morality than god?

@schrodingersmeh LOL so you admit that you are presupposing brute facts which means not only are you presupposing, but you don’t even have justification for doing so. “I answered all your questions” You haven’t. I’ve asked (4 times now) What distinguishes oxygen and hydrogen?

@null00333 All metaphysics have brute facts. Including the retarded presup model. Everyone knows this; presuppers just pretend God isn't a brute fact because it's self-referential. I've answered your question perhaps a dozen times. Here your presup argument dies, and always will.

@salmon13528 @darwintojesus Find it where? Have you found it for yourself? If so, where did you find it? If not, do you know anyone who has found it for themselves? Where did they find it?

@null00333 @darwintojesus No, I cannot, you must find it yourself

Friendly reminder: there’s no such thing as “better” on atheism.

@salmon13528 @darwintojesus Great. So where else can I find this value? Can you show me where it exists?

@null00333 @darwintojesus No

@schrodingersmeh “In reality,they simply are” Is ad hoc and a bad attempt at trying to claim brute facts exist You didn’t answer my question What distinguishes hydrogen and oxygen? (Keep in mind, you already affirmed that both oxygen and hydrogen and their distinction, existed before humans)

@null00333 1. Those are abstracts according to conceptualists, and therefore are distinguishable reliably from abstracts humans have gleaned from reality. 2. In reality, they simply are. Sorry chief; you should have been on your script by now. You're stuck forever.

@BrianaRoseLee @damnidc__ So if his daughter was 30 and he dated a 30 year old, would you say the same thing?

@damnidc__ She is quite literally the exact same age as his daughter. It’s like he’s sleeping with his own daughter. He is a creep.

Pedophiles aren't just old men touching up little kids They're also men who are 50y old and flirting with a 19/20 year old girl

@damnidc__ Pedophiles like prepubescent children. Don’t try to lessen the severity of a crime like pedophilia. You’re doing a disservice to the victims of it

@schrodingersmeh 1. What is required for the distinction between oxygen and hydrogen? (You already agreed that hydrogen and oxygen are distinct and existed prior to humans)

@null00333 If you're a conceptualist, the oxygen and hydreogen are oxygen and hydrogen. The abstract of numbers provides humans a map of reality via abstracts to generalize and identify them. Still no way for you to drag abstracts into reality, dipshit!

@salmon13528 @darwintojesus Do you think that meaning and value exist only in the human mind?

@null00333 @darwintojesus Why would I care to answer you

@kaizen000000000 We are no longer commanded to do any of that. Low tier response from you

@null00333 Go be a slave

@MMotherquacker @kaizen000000000 You said “there is no delusion” and now seem to agree that there is. Do you regard a schizophrenics delusion of “the cia is after me and wants to shave my legs” with any seriousness?

@null00333 @kaizen000000000 Even if it’s a “delusion” doesn’t even mean it’s a bad thing. We give value to things, yes it only exists in our minds, which was my point. It has proven to be a reliable system. If it’s valuable to us then it’s valuable.

Jordan Peterson was so mad after this debate. He got cooked and won’t debate Matt again.😅

@salmon13528 @darwintojesus Do you think value and meaning exists outside of the human mind?

@null00333 @darwintojesus Says the guy that can’t read.

@salmon13528 @darwintojesus Lmao. You got checkmated 10 responses ago. Do you think value and meaning exists outside of human minds?

@null00333 @darwintojesus I already told you. Learn to read