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@oohglobbits5 @Jacob77198399 @matsciguycanada @tk_the_kitsune @David_Kicinski You sound stupid. You and your 4 bfs all failed miserably at trying to refute Aquinas first way.

@Jacob77198399 @null00333 @matsciguycanada @tk_the_kitsune @David_Kicinski Insults and lies. Because none of you can debunk the fact that God isn't real.

Self-existing things can exist? Go universe! Whoops, I've just debunked God.

@matsciguycanada @Jacob77198399 @oohglobbits5 @tk_the_kitsune @David_Kicinski Materials science is the easiest type of science. Also an intro class is essentially useless. You keep saying Aquinas was refuted but have failed to provide the reasoning for how that’s the case. I’ve been waiting for this ground breaking refutation

@null00333 @Jacob77198399 @oohglobbits5 @tk_the_kitsune @David_Kicinski So, with a master's degree in science, I don't know basic science? I didn't take Intro to Philosophy as an elective in university? Sorry, champ. You lost hard. Aquinas is a long refuted argument; you got torn to shreds. Name-calling and blocking says it all.

@matsciguycanada @AtheistBigfoot @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @tk_the_kitsune “Been torn apart endlessly” yet you can’t even give me a single way in which it has 😂

@AtheistBigfoot @null00333 @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @tk_the_kitsune He didn't account for a lot of things. His five ways have been torn apart endlessly. If God is timelessly eternal then there was never a moment in time when God did not will into existence this universe. So he thought about it for an eternity when no time exists in which to think

@Jacob77198399 @oohglobbits5 @matsciguycanada @tk_the_kitsune @David_Kicinski The guy you’re talking to (“the science guy” that doesn’t know basic science nor philosophy) is an idiot. Already refuted him

@oohglobbits5 @matsciguycanada @tk_the_kitsune @David_Kicinski It doesn’t matter if it’s illogical, laws of logic are dependent on human mind, so my mind states that the law of non contradiction doesn’t apply! Welcome to your worldview!

@AtheistBigfoot @matsciguycanada @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @tk_the_kitsune His god doesn’t cease to exist at any point

@matsciguycanada @null00333 @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @tk_the_kitsune Aquinas never accounted for the possibility of his god ceasing to exist after creation.

@matsciguycanada @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune No you can’t because as you’ve just done, you’ve admitted that your “dragon” is just the name you attribute to Aquinas’ god without any distinction. You’re an idiot 😂

@null00333 @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune Nope, I substitute your god with dragon. I can do it with an infinite number of magical beings. I refute your point, because it is commonly understood that Aquinas fails in this way. Get an education, skippy. If you had one, you'd know these things. Dollar store philosophy🤦‍♂️

@matsciguycanada @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune So why does gravity do what it does? (Despite whether we measure it or not)

@null00333 @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune Has the mass of the Earth changed? Nope. That's the great thing about science: it makes predictions in the future and the past. Try again, champ.

@matsciguycanada @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune So then you affirm the god of Aquinas but merely refer to him as “dragon”. You’ve conceded my point. Thanks for playing.

@null00333 @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune Nope, it's a name. The equivalent to god. Try again. Do you really, really, really believe in the dragon? Only then can you see the book. It's a good book, no genocides, no slavery, no judgment on who sleeps with whom.

@matsciguycanada @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune So you believe in the god of Aquinas yet refer to it as “dragon”? lol. Then you’ve conceded my point.

@null00333 @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune Nope, dragon = god. It's a name. Try again.

@matsciguycanada @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune You contradicted yourself. Does it do what it does independent of measurement? If so, why does it do it? You’re slow.

@null00333 @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune Gravity did what it does before we measured it. Unless, of course, you think cavemen fell up. Wow, you are desperate and flailing. Typical christian, they can never admit to being wrong about anything. Your god hates a lying tongue, you know that right?

@matsciguycanada @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune It’s invisible but you’re still saying it’s a “dragon” and thus 1 has a material form 2 has potential that isn’t actualized So it cannot be the god of Aquinas. Refuted.

@null00333 @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune Nope, I specified that the dragon is invisible for a reason. You're not very good at this, are you?

@matsciguycanada @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune YOU said your god has a material form (a dragon). I never said such a thing. And no, my god doesn’t have the form of a man, he became man but that is not his default form. Also, made in his image doesn’t refer to our bodies. Show me the dragons book

@null00333 @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune How do you know it has a material form? It is invisible. Your god has the form of a man, after all. If we are made in his image. The dragon has a book too, but you really, really, really have to believe in him to see it.

@matsciguycanada @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune You’re the one saying your god has the form of a dragon so you’re refuting yourself

@null00333 @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune How do you know it has any form? It's invisible, just like your god.

@matsciguycanada @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune “Gravity does what it does because we measure it” are you saying that gravity wouldn’t behave the way it does if we don’t measure it?

@null00333 @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune What's your mass? I can tell you precisely what the force is at impact when you splat. Gravity does what it does because we can measure it and quantify it. We can make predictions based on that knowledge. How do you think we got to the moon? Or are you a denier of that, too?

@matsciguycanada @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune The dragon is refuted because that is a material form imposed on an immaterial purely actual actualizer. This means it has potentials that are unrealized so it cannot be the same god that Aquinas is referring to. Counter my refutation otherwise your dragon has been refuted

@null00333 @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune Your first way is refuted, soundly. Refute my fucking dragon.

@matsciguycanada @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune The dragon is refuted because it isn’t purely actual as it has the form of a dragon. Aquinas argument applies to specific attributes and once you introduce “form of a dragon”, it is no longer Aquinas god. So your dragon has been refuted

@null00333 @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune Nope, if you refute the dragon, you refute your god. He's identical to your god. That's the problem with Aquinas' argument: it can apply to anything. How do you know there aren't infinite gods outside of time and space? How do you know which did what?

@matsciguycanada @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune Some of those are allegorical and not to be interpreted literally. But either way, the god Aquinas is arguing for is the god of the Bible which as Jewish people believed, is without material form so your dragon is refuted because that is a material form imposed on the immaterial

@null00333 @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune The alleged god comes from the bible, written 2500 years ago. And claims to explain the creation of the universe, which emerged 13.8 billion years ago. Oh, and talking animals. Dude in a fish for 3 days without oxygen, the entire earth flooded. Utter nonsense. Refute the dragon.

@matsciguycanada @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune Testing gravity doesn’t tell me why it does what it does. Your dragon has been refuted as has your weak reasoning here. You couldn’t refute my original point and can’t refute Aquinas 1st way

@null00333 @oohglobbits5 @Mat_Hunt @AtheistBigfoot @tk_the_kitsune Obviously, you haven't tested gravity yet; you're still yammering on about nonsense. Refute my fucking dragon.