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@MMotherquacker @kaizen000000000 You said “there is no delusion” and now seem to agree that there is. Do you regard a schizophrenics delusion of “the cia is after me and wants to shave my legs” with any seriousness?

@null00333 @kaizen000000000 Even if it’s a “delusion” doesn’t even mean it’s a bad thing. We give value to things, yes it only exists in our minds, which was my point. It has proven to be a reliable system. If it’s valuable to us then it’s valuable.

Jordan Peterson was so mad after this debate. He got cooked and won’t debate Matt again.😅

@salmon13528 @darwintojesus Do you think value and meaning exists outside of the human mind?

@null00333 @darwintojesus Says the guy that can’t read.

Friendly reminder: there’s no such thing as “better” on atheism.

@salmon13528 @darwintojesus Lmao. You got checkmated 10 responses ago. Do you think value and meaning exists outside of human minds?

@null00333 @darwintojesus I already told you. Learn to read

@salmon13528 @darwintojesus What is your criteria for “objectively better”? Your health. Why does your health matter? “Because it’s ‘objectively good’” You’re a moron. I assume that your definition of a woman is “a person who identifies as a woman”

@null00333 @darwintojesus I already told you. Learn to read

@kaizen000000000 Slavery is immoral because humans do not get to decide to view others as inferior. But god isn’t human and has set up a system to bring forth ultimate good in the end.

Is slavery immoral? Yes. Is the Bible the word of God? Yes. Is God moral? Yes. Then why did say you can own slaves?? Matt Dillahunty🗣️ If God decides morality then morality becomes arbitrary…… If morality exists independently then God isn’t the source of morality

@Loser771740 @katofklysm Why doesn’t Jay provide written arguments? Why does he rely on his debate tactics (shouting, mockery, kicking, his gay laugh) instead of actual arguments?

@katofklysm Why didn't you debate him coward

Does Jay Dyer think st. Gennadios Scholarios is condemned?

@MMotherquacker @kaizen000000000 You said that value only exists in our minds and that it doesn’t exist outside of our minds. Hence it is false. A schizophrenic will believe something is true (in their mind it is true, the CIA wants to shove a frog up his ass), in reality, that is not true. It’s a delusion

@null00333 @kaizen000000000 What’s false about us giving things value? I’ve admitted the truth that there isn’t intrinsic value, but I give value to certain things because they are beneficial to me. It’s simple as that There’s no delusion.

@MMotherquacker @kaizen000000000 So if we look back to what Matt said and apply what you’ve said here. “I have value because I come from people who had value” becomes “I’m delusional because I come from people who were delusional” So he doesn’t actually have value. Value doesn’t really exist in your worldview

@null00333 @kaizen000000000 seems you have comprehension problems. We are the ones that give value to anything bro. If you give value to living and life, then thats okay.

@FurryOswald @MMotherquacker @kaizen000000000 I answered your attempt to dodge. Can you now answer the question?

@null00333 @MMotherquacker @kaizen000000000 you're still here. You tell us

@schrodingersmeh All elements are composed of atoms. Atoms have the same parts amongst each other. Protons, neutrons, electrons. 1. What is required for oxygen and hydrogen to be distinguished?

@null00333 It is. Obviously. The universe worked fine without human abstracts. Care to disagree, dipshit?

@vant008- Vanquished like a lil' bitch! 🤣

@schrodingersmeh You affirmed (1) and (2) which means distinctions of atoms existed prior to humans. 3. You affirmed that distinctions existed prior to humans in (1) and (2). The distinctions REQUIRE NUMBER OF PROTONS. This then refutes your answer to (4).

@null00333 Yes to the first to. 3. So you affirm numbers exist As an ABSTRACT, yes 4. “From human abstraction” contradicts your answers for (1), (2) and (3 Still a moron. Still eating drywall.

@FurryOswald @MMotherquacker @kaizen000000000 Why are you avoiding answering? My answer is because we are made in the image of God and to murder oneself is to 1. Throw the gift god gave us away 2. Disrespect god by harming what is in his image 3. Disobey his commandment “don’t kill” But you’re atheist. So answer.

@schrodingersmeh It’s a non sequitur. It’s not evidence of anything 😂 Wait nvm it’s evidence that you’re retarded

@null00333 It doesn't. You insist abstracts exist outside of the human mind. You're wrong (big surprise), and this is evidence of that.

@schrodingersmeh 1. So you affirm that these things aren’t dependent on humans. Cool. 2. So you affirm there is a distinction in nature that doesn’t require humans 3. So you affirm numbers exist 4. “From human abstraction” contradicts your answers for (1), (2) and (3)

@null00333 -did the universe, oxygen and helium exist prior to humans? Yes -are oxygen and helium the same? No -does oxygen have 6 protons and helium 2? Yes -so oxygen and helium depend on the quantity of protons for their distinction? From human abstraction,

@schrodingersmeh lol. This proves you’re a retard btw.

@null00333 Nope. You haven't proven protons require the human abstract of numbers to work. You can't, so you crash out. That's fine; it's entertaining, at least! 🤣🤣🤣

@schrodingersmeh Yes or no: -did the universe, oxygen and helium exist prior to humans? -are oxygen and helium the same? -does oxygen have 6 protons and helium 2? -so oxygen and helium depend on the quantity of protons for their distinction?

@null00333 But numbers aren’t just “human abstracts”. They are independent of humans. ^You've said this a million times, and proven it precisely 0.

@MMotherquacker @kaizen000000000 “There is no intrinsic value in anything” Then what is the point of living? Life has guaranteed suffering. Why live?

@null00333 @kaizen000000000 How is that nonsense? There is no intrinsic value in anything Except the value we give, it’s as simple as that. Everything is made of atoms,can rearranged to produce different things. So we give value to specific arrangements because they are beneficial to us.

@schrodingersmeh “We both agree the universe doesn’t need human abstracts to do what it does” Correct. But numbers aren’t just “human abstracts”. They are independent of humans. Protons prove that they are because the distinctions between them, depend on proton numbers and those existed prior

@null00333 Numbers are, as even your my-mommy-drank-alchohol-while-pregnant brain stated are abstracts. We both agree the universe doesn't need human abstracts to do what it does. Try again, retard. As a presup, this is where you assert God.

@schrodingersmeh “Humans have been around for around 200,000 years The universe is 13 billion years old Therefore elements do not require abstract numbers “ This is a non sequitur 😂😂😂 You’re literally unable to deal with my argument “You asserted without evidence” the evidence is protons

@null00333 They do not. You've asserted that without evidence. Humans have been around for around 200,000 years. The universe is 13 billion years old. Therefore elements do not require the abstract of numbers. Try again, retard.