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permanentfold
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@permanentfold @Slumbernana0249 @TemplarsRoar Oh, she recorded that before, she could have just taken the video down and not post it? Or better yet, where's her twitter post condemning the game and saying they lied to her? See how retarded and flawed your statement is?
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So… like I said… Ironmouse lied.
NTE admitted to using Gen AI before launch, IronMouse played the game and got her money for the sponsorship, then virtue signaled and pulled the ladder up behind her.
It’s actually crazy how people ignore the egregious behavior of these streamers.
NTE Global@NTE_GL
Dear Appraisers, Thank you for the feedback. It matters to us. Neverness to Everness is built on human creativity. The characters, stories, and world you experience are the work of artists, writers, and designers. AI-assisted tools were used only on a small number of background and environmental assets, not on the characters or stories that define this game. We're already reviewing and reworking the flagged assets: "Clear Skies in Summer" and "Pink Paws Heist". Your feedback shapes this game, so please keep it coming. We're listening, and we're committed to delivering the quality you deserve. Sincerely, The NTE Team
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@Dy_lm96 @Slumbernana0249 @TemplarsRoar She recorded that before it came out that they used AI and then they removed the AI.
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@permanentfold @Slumbernana0249 @TemplarsRoar Well, she did an entire music video for Expedition 33.... Where's her "outrage" for E33's usage of AI.
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@Slumbernana0249 @TemplarsRoar No she doesn't she, the only time she has is if she didn't know. she has dropped games mid playing before because she found out they had AI.
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@TemplarsRoar She also plays and loves other games that use AI. Hell one of them, Nikke, primarily uses the shit. Way more than NTE did.
I'm sick of the double standards, the virtue signalling, and the shit ass CCs. And their drones that listen to whatever they say.
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I bet Mihoyo didn't went to any of its sponsored streamers and said : "Get sponsored by us, btw, we have ai, i hope you are okay with that".
Also, didn't Ironmouse do a cover for E33? Wait until she finds out that E33 also has AI used in assets too. 🤯🤯🤯
It would be A BIT AWKWARD being upset at the AI usage in NTE but not complaining at all with Genshin's or E33's to the point of playing and singing covers for these games.
Who would even make a cover for a game that has AI assets in it? That's kinda weird to promote 😳
This is weird@Thisisweir36014
@Blazeon mihoyo use AI? fine Twitter use AI? fine Capcom use AI? fine Somehow smaller company didn't even know it is or not is not fine. You had their contract why not contact them and ask rather than talk on stream and damage the game more
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@Kuropiosu @Grown_Otaku @ChibiReviews This is not the first time she has dropped a game or not played a game because of gen AI but non of those got clipped and got blown out of proportion. No problem for the 14 minutes mix up, we all misread things sometimes.
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@permanentfold @Grown_Otaku @ChibiReviews Of course not. She didn't need to. All she had to do was mention a couple controversial key words and it would be all over the internet. As for the 14 minutes, I misread you tweet, sorry.
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The NTE Situation is insane and nothing but performative outrage by VTubers trying to score brownie points online. I respect Ironmouse, but this situation is terrible. youtu.be/k4PxSnULQoU
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@Kuropiosu @Grown_Otaku @ChibiReviews Where did you get 14 minutes from? I said it was a few of minutes during a stream and she never posted about it anywhere else.
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@permanentfold @Grown_Otaku @ChibiReviews Ah yeah, 14 minutes is a long fucking time to say, "given some new information that came to light I decided not to proceed with the collaboration." But no, she didn't make a show of it, which is why it's all over social media now, right? That's exactly what making a show of it is
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@Blazeon If she was virtue signaling she would have posted about it on twitter and made a YouTube video about it, she didn't she only mentioned it for a few minutes during a 14 hour stream. Someone else then clipped it and you guys made it a bigger deal than it ever had to be.
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Honestly?
It is impressive how Ironmouse can take a NTE sponsorship, get the bag, and then virtue signal and shit all over the game's reputation, ruining future sponsorships done for other content creators after her.
And then she has the anti-ai retards defending her too wow 😂
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@bananakkjoh @Blazeon We are going in circles here If Mouse heard about the AI because of indie game awards, which is when it became more widely known, then this was before that she found out about it.
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@bananakkjoh @Blazeon Follow the conversation back, because it was recorded long before it was released and E33 did remove the gen AI.
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@permanentfold @Blazeon So why did she do the cover? How could she not see something that was all over the internet? That bitch just wasn't trying to signal virtue at that moment
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@Kuropiosu @Grown_Otaku @ChibiReviews She did not make a show of it she talked about it for a few minutes after chat brought it up during a 14 hour stream. She never posted about it on twitter or anywhere else.
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@permanentfold @Grown_Otaku @ChibiReviews You could do it quietly without announcing it to the entire world and only address it if it is brought up later on. That would be the professional thing to do. Instead, she made a show of it. I like ironmouse but like anybody else, she's not perfect and I think this was a mistake
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@bananakkjoh @Blazeon And what If she did not see that tweet? She stopped playing the game before she finished it maybe because she did find out about this eventually.
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@mrgoodfeels0417 @ChibiReviews @ironmouse Mouse is not the one who made a dedicated video to blow this whole thing way out of proportion, that was Chibi. Mouse talked about it on stream for a few minutes then went on with the rest of her stream. It was Chibi and you guys who made a big deal of it.
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@ChibiReviews after @ironmouse got her fat check she immediately went to virtue signaling, these pretentious assholes never liked the game anyway..
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Certainly those that were having performative outrage about NTE will come back to the game because they said they're removing any AI
Or will they never speak about this. Which do you think will happen?
NTE Global@NTE_GL
Dear Appraisers, Thank you for the feedback. It matters to us. Neverness to Everness is built on human creativity. The characters, stories, and world you experience are the work of artists, writers, and designers. AI-assisted tools were used only on a small number of background and environmental assets, not on the characters or stories that define this game. We're already reviewing and reworking the flagged assets: "Clear Skies in Summer" and "Pink Paws Heist". Your feedback shapes this game, so please keep it coming. We're listening, and we're committed to delivering the quality you deserve. Sincerely, The NTE Team
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@NisiraChaosVTA @minairyyy Mouse said that no one deserves that harassment when the hogwarts thing happened. Silver complaining about Mouse being too busy for her was much later and directly contradicts her own opinion with friends being busy like Mouse was.
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@permanentfold @minairyyy At that point, Silvervale, ON. STREAM, even questioned their friendship after being ghosted by Mouse for that long. So unless you somehow have some mystical unicorn proof that says otherwise, you need to drop that parasocial obsession of yours and touch some actual grass.
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@iTzPaincake @PixelPlusVtuber Do you hear yourself? She asked her contact at the company and they gave her incorrect information no matter what department it was that is on them not Mouse. Placeholders aren't placeholders if they don't get swapped before release.
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@permanentfold @PixelPlusVtuber NOT THE DEV TEAM.
It was the MARKETING TEAM, that's a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT Team.
Imagine being this stupid.
Also, the point literally still stands. The ACTUAL Dev team, always admitted to using AI as a PLACEHOLDER, something pretty much every modern Dev does.
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Hey Iron Mouse. Did you even bother to do your research on NTE before playing?
Could you not be bothered to have someone look for you if AI is your main concern?
No? Then you have no room to complain when noticing the games utilizes ai assets while the rest of the game is human made.
You're a grown adult with a brain yet you can't do a little looking to be sure. Okay.
You have no excuse and you deserve to be called out on your own error IRON MOUSE.
Honestly this is stupid even for you.
NTE_WL@NTE_WL
NTE Drama I’m writing this post because of the massive number of DMs from players asking for refunds over claims that the game was made with AI. We need to clarify a few points, as the situation is escalating quite a bit. The game wasn’t made with a simple ChatGPT prompt like “make me a game, please.” It was created by programmers, musicians, voice actors, artists, writers, and many other staff members who have been working on it for years. If it were truly a soulless project in such a competitive industry, it simply wouldn’t stand out the way it has. We can’t deny that AI may have been used for certain types of assets that do not represent the final product, but that still doesn’t fully address the underlying issue. As for an official statement from Hotta Studio, we have already reached out and are currently waiting for a response. This may take some time, as it is currently Golden Week in China, which includes several non-working holidays. Regarding the sponsorship situation and the denial of AI use, it’s important to clarify that each department operates independently. This falls under the marketing department’s responsibility in terms of communication with influencers, and the situation was not handled with complete transparency. We are currently awaiting an official statement from the staff regarding the controversy that has emerged. The situation is delicate. While the issue originated in Asia and was actually received fairly positively there, it has now escalated to the point where forums in China and Japan are discussing the controversy being stirred up by the West over what many consider to be a minor issue. Many influencers are protesting and have stopped creating content, which worries players who are genuinely enjoying the game, as they fear this situation could negatively affect its future. Let’s hope for the best.
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@iTzPaincake @PixelPlusVtuber Its literally in the clip people are sharing, she says her team asked them if it had AI and they said no.
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@Waffl3x @ChibiReviews It can be mentioned but at the end of the day Mouse made a decision based on her own opinion and said she Isn't trying to stop anyone and doesn't care if people do play it. Now people are mad at her for talking about her decision. Its nonsensical to be upset with her for that.
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@permanentfold @ChibiReviews I can appretiate that distinction, but I don't like the frequent implication that it means it can't be mentioned
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@minairyyy What Silver said about Mouse had nothing to do with hogwarts. Mouse defended her when that happened.
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@permanentfold i‘m refering silvervales statement on ironmouse after the hogwarts legacy incident wich is very telling what type of person she was at that point and prolly still is. my claim stands, an attack looks way different than the words i‘m using to call her out. you mouse fanatic
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@Waffl3x @ChibiReviews I mean it more like, it was a clip of few minutes of a 14 hours stream mouse moved on after and it was not a big deal, Mouse did not make a video on it or try to push her choice on other people.
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@permanentfold @ChibiReviews This has to be the most parasocial thing I see from people. "She was just talking to her chat" as if there is any implied privacy that comes with it
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@DejaWukong @Blazeon She has not knowing played games with gen AI and when she has she stopped playing all of them, her stance on it has never changed. those songs are recorded months before the event.
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@permanentfold @Blazeon But she did sing several songs at the club ironmouse event after it was known.
We can keep making excuses but the matter of the fact is, she has played and will continue to play gen AI games. It's hypocritical to take a strong stance when she will continue to do so
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