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"Behold the Man who suffers for thee. Thou hast sinned, but He bears the punishment.”

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xonkius@xonkius·
@quasischoolman @AngloVarangian I am just denying the premise that it is necessary for a doctrine to be grounded in the Word of God in order for it to be imposed as dogma.
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xonkius@xonkius·
@quasischoolman @AngloVarangian Still it seems Metr. Theophans position was not Orthodox. I don't see how an Orthodox Christian can hold that dogma not be imposed unless it is grounded in the Word of God. But perhaps I am wrong about this. Certainly it seems that is not the case.
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ℨ𝔬𝔬𝔟@yahunna9

I forgot to reply to this but anyways; I don't really think Theofan, Philaret, Basil, Chrysostom, Macarius, and Anthony are in direct opposition on this matter, I see them as complimentary with different emphasis. Theofan saying that Holy Scripture alone is the principle of theology is moreso in the scholastic sense that no dogma may be imposed as divinely revealed unless it is grounded in the Word of God, either explicitly or implicitly, which isn't a denial of Holy Tradition as the living apostolic transmission of revelation in the Church and this can be demonstrated just by examining dogmatic definitions of all such binding Councils that we have from the first 7 Ecumenical Councils to Palamite Synods to Jerusalem 1672 and such, they are all primarily based in Scripture which is what the Archbishop is demonstrating. In fact, the Archbishop himself distinguishes several kinds of tradition and doesn't reject things like apostolic rites, ecclesial interpretation, conciliar authority, or traditions virtually contained in Scripture; he rejects only alleged unwritten dogmas not found either expressly or virtually in Scripture. St. Basil and St. John Chrysostom rightly teach that not everything apostolic was written and that unwritten apostolic traditions have authority for piety, of course, while St. Philaret, Macarius, and Anthony's expositions give us a fuller image and I'd put it like basically: Divine Revelation is preserved in the Church through both Holy Scripture and Holy Tradition, and Scripture must be interpreted within the Church’s living Tradition. And that isn't opposed to Perspicuity of Scripture either as Theofan puts it, since Sts. Basil and John themselves affirm it firmly, but that's not to say that people can't distort the Scripture using their own faulty reasoning or that the interpretive tradition of the Church isn't needed.

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xonkius@xonkius·
@yahunna9 @augustinianzlt I would be inclined to deny the idea that no dogma can be imposed unless it is grounded in the Word of God. Still I am unconvinced that Metr. Theophan Prokopovich was Orthodox on these points. His participation in the renovation of the Russian Church doesn't help his case.
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ℨ𝔬𝔬𝔟@yahunna9·
@xonkius @augustinianzlt Read the volume I of his dogmatics in full, he didn't have a Protestant view as such. x.com/i/status/20679…
ℨ𝔬𝔬𝔟@yahunna9

I forgot to reply to this but anyways; I don't really think Theofan, Philaret, Basil, Chrysostom, Macarius, and Anthony are in direct opposition on this matter, I see them as complimentary with different emphasis. Theofan saying that Holy Scripture alone is the principle of theology is moreso in the scholastic sense that no dogma may be imposed as divinely revealed unless it is grounded in the Word of God, either explicitly or implicitly, which isn't a denial of Holy Tradition as the living apostolic transmission of revelation in the Church and this can be demonstrated just by examining dogmatic definitions of all such binding Councils that we have from the first 7 Ecumenical Councils to Palamite Synods to Jerusalem 1672 and such, they are all primarily based in Scripture which is what the Archbishop is demonstrating. In fact, the Archbishop himself distinguishes several kinds of tradition and doesn't reject things like apostolic rites, ecclesial interpretation, conciliar authority, or traditions virtually contained in Scripture; he rejects only alleged unwritten dogmas not found either expressly or virtually in Scripture. St. Basil and St. John Chrysostom rightly teach that not everything apostolic was written and that unwritten apostolic traditions have authority for piety, of course, while St. Philaret, Macarius, and Anthony's expositions give us a fuller image and I'd put it like basically: Divine Revelation is preserved in the Church through both Holy Scripture and Holy Tradition, and Scripture must be interpreted within the Church’s living Tradition. And that isn't opposed to Perspicuity of Scripture either as Theofan puts it, since Sts. Basil and John themselves affirm it firmly, but that's not to say that people can't distort the Scripture using their own faulty reasoning or that the interpretive tradition of the Church isn't needed.

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August@augustinianzlt·
"SACRED SCRIPTURE ALONE, OR THE WORD OF GOD ALONE, IS THE PRINCIPLE OF THEOLOGY."—Theophan Prokopovich
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xonkius@xonkius·
@TheOrthoEnsign @augustinianzlt @vertiasluxmea Haha well nothing will ever be good enough for the modernists. They will only say you are interpreting the clergy incorrectly, or ignore the clergy who disagree with them. Which they are already comfortable doing when it comes to other issues like ecumenism (some of them).
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August@augustinianzlt·
"Justification is an act of divine grace by which God freely — in relation to the human being — declares a sinner righteous: one who acknowledges his sins with true and sufficient sorrow and believes in Christ, on account of Christ's merit alone as apprehended by faith; declaring him righteous by not imputing — that is, by remitting — his sins and by truly imputing to him the righteousness of Christ. It is to be noted here that we take the term "justification" in its forensic sense — that is, as acquittal from the charge of a crime alleged against someone."—Theophan Prokopovich
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xonkius@xonkius·
@TheOrthoEnsign @mcat1977 This seems to be how modernists talk about Ephesus and Nestorians, or Chalcedon and the Miaphysites. I don't see how a dogmatic council is condemning a belief that the group its focused on condemning doesn't actually hold to.
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@xonkius @mcat1977 Again I think there was some talking past each other. 1672 condemns the idea of a faith without works justifying. It basically opposes the antinomian position.
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Orthodox Ensign ☦️🔄🧎@TheOrthoEnsign·
Compiled quotes on the topic of Christ's righteousness or merits being imputed to, or appropriated by, or given as covering to, or possessed by, believers – a thread 🧵
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xonkius@xonkius·
@TheOrthoEnsign @mcat1977 How would this account for the decree in Jerusalem 1672 that is specifically condemning Sola Fide (atleast the Reformed explanation of it)? There is no room to deny that the reformed are heterodox on this question.
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Orthodox Ensign ☦️🔄🧎@TheOrthoEnsign·
@mcat1977 Not on this, but on matters of the sacraments, monasticism, governance, authority, and also some matters where there was some talking past each other, such as faith versus works and grace versus free will.
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Orthodox Ensign ☦️🔄🧎@TheOrthoEnsign·
"Through a kind of communication or exchange of idioms, Christ assumes the role or status of the sinner, the sinner's status is imputed to Christ, and Christ's righteousness and life is given to the sinner. Yet there is no strict analogy here because Christ does not...
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Orthodox Ensign ☦️🔄🧎@TheOrthoEnsign·
"[W]hen man became a transgressor of the Law, he could only hope to attain his goal by assimilating an alien righteousness [чужой праведности]. This assimilated righteousness compensates for our lives' lack of legality and enables us to be close to God." –St. Theophan the Recluse
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xonkius@xonkius·
@Craig_Truglia @Scholarius1 If they are dogmatic then what would the difference in their perceived importance (which I think is of course true), entail about them?
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Craig Truglia@Craig_Truglia·
@Scholarius1 ...but we need to be honest with the fact that these councils are dogmatic but have been treated with less importance than the Ecumenical councils and the hymnography of the Church. This is not "modernism." "Modernism" is the RC magisterial approach where the episcopacy waves...
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Scholarius@Scholarius1·
With all respect, brother, if you tagged me, I have to say I don't understand it. It is exactly what I find puzzling in modern theology. Reception of the councils based on enthusiasm? So, basically "a Council is binding because it feels like it"?
Craig Truglia@Craig_Truglia

His Grace Maxim Vasiljevic on the difference of significance between the ecumenical and post-ecumenical councils: "The measure of their reception afforded to them shows the measure of significance in the consciousness in the Orthodox Church." @Scholarius1 @OrthodoxEthos

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Mikkō@blessedmikko·
‘Sin is such a great evil that man, by himself, without the aiding mercy of God, can never fully atone for it, even if he were to live a thousand years, spending all those years in repentance, labours, fasts, prayers, and tears. The single sin of Adam, committed in paradise, was of such great weight that all the many tears of the holy forefathers and the blood shed by the holy Prophets could not suffice to atone for it. But it was necessary that the Son of God Himself, descending from Heaven, should become incarnate and suffer, and with His own blood pay the debt for human sin to God’s Justice. God forgave Adam and Eve their sin, insofar as it pertained to them personally, but not insofar as it (that original sin) pertained to the entire human race. He freed them from the guilt (вины) of sin, but not from the punishment: for the punishing justice of God required satisfaction from the guilty (виноватого). And since Adam and Eve could not by themselves satisfy God for the sin brought upon the entire human race, they were not admitted into paradise until the Deliverer of the human race, the Son of God, should come and satisfy God the Father by His voluntary suffering for the universal sin, and by the cross open paradise.’ –St. Dmitry (Tupalo), Select Dogmatic Works Collected by Metr. Macarius Bulgakov
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speckzo 🇻🇦@realspeckzo·
A woman who has had an abortion is worse than a man who has committed rape.
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☦︎ 𝔓𝔞𝔱𝔯𝔦𝔰𝔱𝔦𝔠 𝔓𝔦𝔩𝔩 ☦︎
Jay Dyer is my shining knight in armor. Jay Dyer is the air that fills my lungs. Jay Dyer is the sword in the hand of online Orthodoxy. Jay Dyer is the final boss of Protestant cope. Jay Dyer is the shadow that haunts every Baptist group chat. Jay Dyer is the reason theology-school midwits sleep with one eye open. Jay Dyer is the man who says “read the councils” and causes 40 sects to panic. Jay Dyer is the Orthodox hillbilly who turned epistemology into a weapon. Jay Dyer is the lighthouse guiding me away from Reddit atheism. Jay Dyer is the hammer of “Bible alone” fantasy. Jay Dyer is the trumpet blast before the collapse of low-church nonsense. Jay Dyer is the guy who made grown men fear the phrase “transcendental argument.” Jay Dyer is the patron of “you didn’t read the source.” Jay Dyer is the guardian at the gates of anti-Masonic laughter. Jay Dyer is the nightmare of every man whose theology came from a podcast clip. Jay Dyer is the Orthodox war drum in the swamp of modern cringe. Jay Dyer is the reason Protestants discovered Church history and immediately regretted it. Jay Dyer is the Byzantine tank rolling over evangelical stage lights. Jay Dyer is the tear collector of online sectarians. Jay Dyer is the man who turned “muh personal interpretation” into public embarrassment. Jay Dyer is the dread of every atheist with a Sam Harris phase. Jay Dyer is the reason internet pagans pretend not to care. Jay Dyer is the velvet rope outside serious theology. Jay Dyer is the microphone-wielding destroyer of fake intellectuals. Jay Dyer is the Orthodox uncle your youth pastor warned you about. Jay Dyer is the man who makes “just read the Bible bro” sound like a cry for help. Jay Dyer is the anti-midwit missile system. Jay Dyer is the final audit of your worldview. Jay Dyer is the fog machine of Protestantism being unplugged. Jay Dyer is the sound of councils entering the chat. Jay Dyer is the reason “where is that in Scripture?” stopped working. Jay Dyer is the guy who asks one authority question and ruins your denomination. Jay Dyer is the storm cloud over every private-judgment empire. Jay Dyer is the Orthodox battering ram against modern nonsense. Jay Dyer is the reason low-church men suddenly remember they hate philosophy. Jay Dyer is the man who makes “trad” LARPers check under the bed. Jay Dyer is the sacred geometry of online bodybags. Jay Dyer is the destroyer of theology-by-vibes. Jay Dyer is the liturgical missile fired at American Bible club religion. Jay Dyer is the dread sovereign of “cope harder.” Jay Dyer is the voice in the walls whispering “essence-energy distinction.” Jay Dyer is the man Protestants hate because he read their footnotes. Jay Dyer is the Byzantine firewall against cringe. Jay Dyer is the reason “I just follow Jesus” now sounds suspicious. Jay Dyer is the high priest of making midwits type paragraphs. Jay Dyer is the reason every internet gnostic now has blood pressure issues. Jay Dyer is the Orthodox siege engine parked outside your worldview. Jay Dyer is the air raid siren of historical Christianity. Jay Dyer is the man who made “read a book” a spiritual weapon. Jay Dyer is not paying me. Jay Dyer is simply my shining knight in armor.
Y☦︎P@YoungPenitent

How much does Dyer pay you bots to white knight for him in the replies of any post that is critical of him?

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xonkius@xonkius·
@NewsNFTU Me neither it sounds weird saying it. But it is clarified on the original article that it was written before he was Orthodox.
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Photius@stcyrilthegreat·
4 Against You only have I sinned And done evil in Your sight; That You may be justified in Your words, And overcome when You are judged. 5 For behold, I was conceived in transgressions, And in sins my mother bore me. — Psalm 50
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