Orthodox Ethos

This is the Church established by Jesus Christ ☦️ Chant name: Χαίρε Άγιον Όρος, πλ Α’ (Rejoice, O God-trodden mountain. Tone Pl. I.)

@ImbernonJoseph Of course not And the source is …. Kyrie elision

@OrthodoxEthos Donc ceci, n'est pas vrai ? orthodoxyindialogue.com/2023/04/

Ce que je trouve problématique, c’est que plusieurs figures publiques qui nous parlent sans cesse d’ecclésiologie, d’autorité visible et de communion canonique ont elles-mêmes des statuts ecclésiaux difficiles à suivre, marginaux, contestés ou instables. Si l’argument est : “Vous, protestants, vous êtes désordonnés parce que vous n’avez pas d’autorité visible claire”, alors le minimum serait de parler depuis une situation ecclésiale claire, reconnue et stable. Un peu d'humilité ? Je pense notamment à @OrthodoxEthos et @calvinrobinson. On ne peut pas transformer l’ecclésiologie en argument répétitif tout en vivant soi-même dans une zone canonique grise. @calvinrobinson ne reconnaît pas Douglas Wilson comme pasteur. Très bien. Mais qui le reconnaît lui-même comme prêtre ? Ni Rome, ni les juridictions anglicanes majeures. @OrthodoxEthos, lui, n’est pas reconnu par les juridictions orthodoxes canoniques du pays où il exerce publiquement. À ce niveau-là, cela ressemble à une grande mascarade canonique. On ne peut pas vendre “l’ordre visible” aux autres avec une carte d’identité ecclésiale aussi étrange. Vous reprochez aux protestants leur désordre, mais sur ce point précis, vous êtes le désordre !

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@OrthodoxEthos Êtes-vous reconnu par ROCOR ? La réponse publique disponible est : non, pas par ROCOR Eastern American Diocese, selon le communiqué ci-joint. Je suis désolé, mais ce n'est pas du tout clair. Cela n'a rien contre vous spécifiquement. orthodoxyindialogue.com/2023/04/

@GnomeRad @ImbernonJoseph orthodoxethos.com/post/archpries…

@ImbernonJoseph @OrthodoxEthos Stop talking about the Orthodox Church when you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. You’ve embarrassed yourself enough already

@GnomeRad @ImbernonJoseph He can’t read English??

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@ImbernonJoseph Did you not read anything? Non of that is true what you write.

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Donc, non seulement la ROCOR ne vous reconnaît pas, mais les évêques orthodoxes canoniques des États-Unis ont publié une mise en garde : si vous exercez comme prêtre orthodoxe aux États-Unis, vous le faites hors des saints canons. Très sincèrement, vous devriez régler cette situation avant de vous présenter comme arbitre public de l’ecclésiologie des autres. Le décalage est trop grand. On ne peut pas sermonner les protestants sur l’ordre canonique visible tout en étant soi-même publiquement contesté sur ce terrain précis. Ça me dépasse !

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@OrthodoxEthos @LowStudies I have not no, it’s by St Cleopa? I’ll have to look out for it.

Anybody have the patience to deal with this?

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Protestants have no ears to hear because they were burned and conditioned by papism. Now they “blow on the yogurt” of Orthodoxy! They also cannot hear because the basic meaning of terms is off : Salvation, faith, grace, church, etc. The meaning of these basic terms were shaped within the church by the apostles and church fathers but Protestants have been twice or thrice removed from this context from the beginning and thus they really preach another Gospel. That today so many sincere inquirers are driven dizzy and into indifference when they try to make sense of basic concepts surrounding the Faith and Life, the Way and Truth of the Lord, is both a tragedy and indicative of the stage we find ourselves in the unfolding of salvation history. We must follow closely the Holy Fathers — from the disciples of the Disciples until today, the contemporary saints and then we come into the meaning of things, in the life of the Church which is the “same yesterday, today and forever.”

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@genericuser76 @PageauJonathan Transformation by the Renewing of Your Nous: Re-Learning Key Terms youtube.com/live/Uv9pVo_76…

Following a bit of the Protestant polemics against Orthodoxy recently, and I realize just how difficult it is to communicate the mind of the Church across these lines. A simple example is seeing people confused about whether someone who is not baptised and participating in Orthodox communion can be "saved". Protestant are noticing that there are different answers in their estimation, and so are confused about them. The confusion comes from the belief that being "saved" or not is about "where you go after you die", when for the Orthodox "saved" means being made whole, being healed, being restored to the original purpose God had for us. For this reason, when Protestants see declarations of how communion in the body of Christ is the only way to salvation, they immediately think this is a declaration that all the non-Orthodox are going to hell after they die. When Protestants then hear the very same person who just told them that salvation is in full participation to the body of Christ go on to intimate we have nothing to say about the eschatological finality of any specific soul, it is like a short circuit that many Protestants cannot compute. This is what I could see when @OrthodoxEthos and @Acts17David were discussing and it is what I have seen in @gavinortlund's videos. In a similar vein, when a Protestant says he has the "assurance of his own personal salvation", this is confusing to the Orthodox. Orthodox also obviously have assurance of salvation, that assurance is Christ. He shows us what it means to be made whole and makes us participate in that wholeness. But how can I say that I am "saved" if I see that I am still a wretch, still prideful and arrogant and sinful? So the Orthodox, knowing they are are still sinning, though also knowing Christ has made them grow in the virtues will say something like: "I know that I am being saved." That is I can see that I am being healed, being made whole, being reformed to the resemblence of God. But again, this completely confuses the Protestant who just wants to know what will happen when you die. What side of the fence will you end up on? I am not sure how to get accross these lines, and I feel that unless we can, we will perpetually be talking past each other.

@PageauJonathan @Reformed_Rican Indeed! Transformation by the Renewing of Your Nous: Re-Learning Key Terms youtube.com/live/Uv9pVo_76…

Of course: "And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." Eternal life is not "what happens to you after you die", it is not "going to heaven", it is living in the true knowledge of God and His Eternal Logos. Eternal life is possible now.

Orthodox and Catholics often cannot answer the question, “do you know you’re going to heaven?” They will say they can’t know for sure, that only God knows, and that they’ll find out once their lives are over. What a stupid, unbiblical, and sad way to think about salvation. 1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life. John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. Another reason why there is no hope of the Gospel in Rome or in the East, and why their churches are apostate.