Ryan Thibodeaux

Miscarriage is a pain I wouldn't wish on anyone. Beyond painful day, numb would be the best word to describe me currently.

@KramersFaith Your defense of your faith is a book that's constantly proven false... that is beyond weak, sir.

“It’s largely demonic” *Hasn’t read the entire Book of Mormon. Has read 30% Embarrassing 😂

@GuyInco15542744 @Grownded No it doesn't, Paul has one tiny conversation about it. He does not endorse it nor condemn it. Modern revelation by a false prophet holds zero weight to your argument.

@ArgusofTalmud @Grownded Except the Bible teaches it. And thankfully modern revelation expounds it

Somewhere in her ancestry there are pagans that she believes are burning in hell and she is powerless to prevent that. But that's ok, because the glory of her god requires it. But right now, my ancestors are preaching Christ Jesus to her pagan ancestors and offering them a chance at redemption from hell through vicarious baptism, but she doesn't want that because it offends her sensibilities. She's mad we might steal them from Catholic hell to Mormon heaven and rob her god of the screams of their eternal torture. That's why she blocked me.

@GuyInco15542744 @Donna_H67 @Grownded Have I ever said they can't be, no, I didn't.

@ArgusofTalmud @Donna_H67 @Grownded Christ went to hell to save the wicked. You’re here denying they can be saved

@MillenialMormon @grok It's just been an excruciatingly painful day and in the end God's the judge here. Please, have a peaceful night and may God bless you and your family.

@ArgusofTalmud @grok Sure. And I appreciate the debate in good faith. It’s refreshing

Anyone who says you have to believe in the Trinity to be a Christian is mistaken. The formal doctrine was defined at the Councils of Nicaea in 325 and Constantinople in 381. Before then, early Christians like Justin Martyr, Origen, and Tertullian taught the Son was subordinate to, and separate from, the Father. Are they not Christian?

@MillenialMormon @grok But in the spirit that we're not going to see eye to eye, respectfully, may we call it a night, sir?

Ok, here are quotes from major religious historians (spoiler: it’s the same answer): Authorities and Expert Consensus Patristic scholars and church historians universally note this distinction, attributing it to the fact that Justin was writing nearly two centuries before the theological vocabulary of "substance" and "personhood" was formally hammered out. 1 J.N.D. Kelly (Early Christian Doctrines) The renowned patristic scholar J.N.D. Kelly notes that Justin and the 2nd-century Apologists relied on a "Logos Christology" heavily influenced by Greek philosophy, which carried an inherent hierarchy: "In using a two-stage theory of a pre-existent Logos to explain the Son's divine status and His relation to the Father... they probably did not realize that this theory had a built-in 'inferiorizing principle' that would win for them the accusation of 'subordinationism.'" Kelly points out that while Justin recognized the divine triad, the order he assigned them (second and third ranks) belonged to how God manifested Himself in creation, making the Son ontologically dependent on the Father's will. 2 Jaroslav Pelikan (The Christian Tradition: A History of the Development of Doctrine) Pelikan emphasizes that early Apologists like Justin lacked the precise terminology of the later ecumenical councils. He explains that Justin frequently tied the "begetting" of the Son directly to the creation of the world: "The language of the early Apologists often sounded subordinationist to later ears because they frequently spoke of the generation of the Logos as an act of the Father's will directed toward creation and revelation, rather than an eternal, internal necessity of the divine nature." 3 R.P.C. Hanson (The Search for the Christian Doctrine of God) Hanson, a leading authority on the Arian controversy and the development of the Nicene Creed, states plainly that pre-Nicene theology was overwhelmingly subordinationist by later standards: "With the exception of Athanasius and a few others, virtually every theologian, East and West, accepted some form of subordinationism before the late fourth century." Hanson places Justin Martyr squarely within this camp, noting that the idea of three completely equal, co-eternal persons sharing a single essence simply did not exist in the mid-second century. 4 Johannes Quasten (Patrology) Quasten, a monumental authority on early Christian writings, explicitly confirms this structural ranking in Justin’s works: "Justin's Christology includes clear traces of subordinationism. The Logos is a mediator between the transcendent, unbegotten God (the Father) and the material world." If you brought Justin Martyr to the Council of Nicaea or Constantinople, his language would have sounded dangerously close to the ideas the councils were trying to correct. He firmly believed Jesus was divine and distinct from the Father, but he envisioned Him as a secondary divine agent derived from the primary source, rather than a co-equal member of a unified, consubstantial Trinity.

@outdoorsyrachel So 1, amazing soles, like 10/10, 2, the mud is so good for the skin!

Muddy.

@sandiegotlmgoer @KalanisCalves Catholocism is the one true faith

@KalanisCalves Lord willing they meet a good Catholic and come to the one true faith

Check. Mate.

@redhotblueeyes Depends, are your feet sweaty

Your place or mine? 🫣

@kariwarburton So a pagan, heard

I ain’t no Morman I’m a Morwoman

@MillenialMormon @grok A) this was before the councils, not today. B) The consensus was he was trying g to articulate the distinct personhood of Jesus with emerging framework of the trinity despite his pagan origins. This doesn't settle how yall aren't Christian in the slightest degree.

@MillenialMormon @grok Using ai that takes into account opinions also doesn't solve the problem

@ArgusofTalmud Well, let’s just settle this then: @grok, according to historians and theologians, did Justin Martyr believe in the concept of the Trinity as constituted in the Nicene Creed or that of Constantinople?

@LeahRay44 Depends, if you want southern breakfast, Waffle House. You want quality, in and out. You want Southern food, find a mom and pop shop down in Southern Louisiana(NOT new orleans)

What’s the best Fast food place in America Sincerely a British girl that wants to experience some culture

@MillenialMormon Theologians that study his writings disagree with you which means you're skewing his words to again suit your narrative. So yes, you are being very dishonest and grasping straws to support your false narrative. It doesn't settle anything when you contort things.

Hardly dishonest. Justin Martyr’s own words settle it. In his First Apology chapter 13 he writes: “we have learnt that he is the son of the true God, and we hold him in second place, with the prophetic Spirit in the third rank.” He continues: we worship the Son “in the second place” after “the unchangeable and eternal God, the Creator of all.” In chapter 12 he calls Christ the one “than whom, after God who begat Him, we know there is no ruler more kingly and just.” Justin taught the Son was begotten by the Father, distinct from Him, and in second place. That was mainstream Christian teaching in the second century. The later Nicene definition of co-equal, co-eternal substance came long afterward. If holding Justin’s view disqualifies someone from being Christian, then Justin Martyr himself wasn’t Christian.

@artMISSIONARY @shannonodell Avoidance, typical mormon

@ArgusofTalmud @shannonodell Dude? I don't own a ranch.

No, the Mormon Church is NOT Christian. Why Pastor…that is so mean and non inclusive? Christianity is built on The Holy Scriptures, which are 66 books, inspired, inerrant, and infallible. 👉🏻If you add “inspired testaments” because you believe The Bible is incomplete and partially corrupted you are NO LONGER Christian. Incorrect LDS doctrine and textual criticism: —God was a man. —Humans can become Gods. —Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers. —Baptism for the dead. —Temple endowments. —God’s throne is near Kolob. —Plural marriages eternally. —Native Americans are the true Israelites. —Holy Handshakes, Underwear, and “Anointing’s”. —Archeology Zarahemla, Bountiful (New World), Cumorah, Nephi, or the Land of Desolation remain unidentified on ANY modern maps 🌎. —Since 1830 The Book of Mormon has had 4,000+ revisions (mostly spelling and grammatical errors). IMO: 🤟🏼Mormons are loved by God. 🚨Mormons are more passionate about a lie than most Christians are about The Truth.

@Cernovich That's great, their pride rivals their father, Satan's

Every Mormon I know considers themself Christian. TBH I find these debates boring.

@IdleAn94328 A gross misrepresenting of scripture. God's in that respect was not speaking of deities but of judges, kings, and general members of authority. Portraying scripture to suit your narrative is a sin.

Dear creedists. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are not polytheists, we are Monolatrists as Jesus Christ was. "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?"- John 10:34 I hope this helps. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolatry

@Donna_H67 @Grownded If my heart wasn't close I wouldn't be the one trying to get them to see they're wrong, same thing Christ would have done.

@ArgusofTalmud @Grownded As you prove so eloquently. You can, allegedly, quote scriptures, but your heart is far from Christ.

@IronRodWarrior No he didn't, your godking Smith said he did but there is no proof of any of his claims. Jesus'church withstood the last 2000 years as he said it would. Your kind just doesn't want to be wrong .

Nothing offends anti-mormon 'christians' more than a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints testifying of Jesus Christ. We must, therefore, worship a different Jesus, because their pastor told them so. They will die on that hill. And they are wrong. Dead wrong. Jesus Christ himself restored His church in preparation for His return. It's that simple. He didn't only appear in 1820. He is the head of this church. He speaks. Not spake. Time is running short. Stop kicking against the pricks.

@carsenlcooper "Hate" being called out for a false theology and interpretation of the Bible is not hate. Unless you're saying Jesus hated people which really goes to show yall believe a vastly different Jesus.

Seeing all the “Mormon” hate this week has reminded me how grateful I am to be born in this choice state where I had a chance to learn of Christ and convert to His church. I’m nowhere near perfect, but this people strives toward perfection better than any other.