artMISSIONARY
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That’s not what it’s saying…my goodness…please go do an exegetical review of this.
Isaiah 2:2 is not about the Rockies or a restored church in Utah.
“Isaiah 2:2 says: ‘In the last days the mountain of the LORD’s house shall be established in the top of the mountains…
The important context is that this is a vision concerning Judah and Jerusalem (Isa. 2:1). Zion/Temple Mount in Jerusalem is exalted as the spiritual center. Nations stream there to learn God’s ways from the God of Jacob (v. 3), leading to peace (v. 4).
Not a prophecy about Salt Lake City. The ‘mountain’ is symbolic supremacy of God’s worship in His holy city, not a new location in the Americas.
The text points to Jerusalem/Zion, fulfilled in the Messiah and His kingdom (Heb. 12:22; Gal. 4:26) not a restored Church of Christ…
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What do you guys think? Does the Bible say something other than what this scripture says? I'll take God's word over Joseph Smith's.
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@MilkToastOnRye Just by separating the terms, "Christian" and "Mormon", there is already a tone set for bitterness and resentment. "Bobby has given-up sports and taken up soccer". -Hank Hill
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When Christians question Mormonism we are labeled as bigoted anti-Mormons. But apparently all of the following is not bigoted anti-Christianity. Why can’t we argue about truth claims without resorting to cheap and emotional escape mechanisms? Can’t the truth stand on its own merits?
-[Christin] creeds are an abomination (First Vision)
- Their professors are all corrupt (First Vision)
-[Christians] say the Father, The Son, and The Holy Ghost are only One God. I say that’s is a strange God anyhow— Three in one. One in three. It is a curious organization (King Follett)
-The Mormon organization is the “only true and living church” (D&C 1:30)
-Will all non-Mormons be damned? “Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119)
-There are only two churches; the Church of the Lamb and the Church of the devil (1 Nep 14:10)
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@Bar_tolmi There are such, it is just misappropriated to be Indian artifacts.
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@artMISSIONARY Let me know when they open the Nephite History Museum.
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Still waiting for this evidence...
Luke Hanson@LukeFHan
Instead of "there is no evidence for the Book of Mormon" Try "There is no proof for the Book of Mormon" or "The evidence for the Book of Mormon is weak." The first statement is designed to shut down conversation which is probably why it is used more often.
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@Bar_tolmi That is false! There were 12 witnesses the swore on their lives that they held the original Book of Mormon.
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@artMISSIONARY A book that only appeared with Joseph Smith in the 19th century? No ruins, no evidence, no ancient manuscripts?
A fraud.
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It's just as good or bad as any other 19th century preaching, although it is not historical and not scripture.
The Book of Mormon is a 19th century American creation.
Guy Incognito@GuyInco15542744
If you condemn the Book of Mormon, especially without reading it, God will hold you accountable. The Book of Mormon is the word of God for our day. A man will come closer to Christ by living its precepts than by any other book
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@Bar_tolmi It doesn't matter, there is asbestos in all the world's the drinking water now anyway.
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@TribeRuffner Isiah literally states the location where the followers of Christ will dwell in the last days. His verses are quite clear if you read them directly.
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@artMISSIONARY Wait are you seriously trying to connect this to LDS because it’s in an area with mountains?
You’re not doing that..right?…
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@Bar_tolmi How is it a cop-out to go to the our Father in Heaven in sincere prayer to learn the truth? Only God knows the truth. People argue over ever wind of doctrine. Scholarship and debate are not the final word. The final word comes from personal revelation direct from God.
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Incorrect - the restoration of the church is nowhere mentioned in the Bible. You're referring to when it's used in the context of Acts I believe.
Peter says heaven must receive Jesus “until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.” This refers to the future cosmic renewal at Christ’s return (see Romans 8:19-23; Revelation 21:5 “I am making everything new”), not to re-establishing the Church. The prophets Peter references spoke of Israel’s restoration, the Messianic kingdom, and the renewal of creation and not a lost church needing modern recovery.
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@Bar_tolmi The proof comes from YOUR reading and studying the text, pondering the message and asking the ONLY ONE who ACTUALLY knows the truth for the answer with all purpose of heart.
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@TribeRuffner The restoration of the church is predatory for the return of Jesus Christ. The church is His bride and He will return at midnight. Thus the latter-day part of the name of His church.
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That’s a claim but it’s not supported by scripture. You’re referring probably to Acts where a restoration is mentioned; however, it’s talking about the return of Christ.
I have the exegetical breakdown on that if you want me to share it but it’s too long to include here. I can DM if you want it
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@the_jake_bastow Because some guy who went to a college somewhere told me something.
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Fellow Christians,
How do you know the Bible is the word of God?
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Doctrine of demons....
LDS Rogue@AaronAsher11
No honest soul can read The Book of Mormon and conclude, with any integrity, that it’s “demonic”
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@LutheranAnswers Look at the bickering of the Dead Sea Scrolls. It didn't cause anyone to switch from being an Atheist.
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What if we had another document he translated?
Like a papyri or something?
Bruce North@BruceNorth46058
If we had the golden plates in a museum, and every expert in the world agreed Joseph translated the Book of Mormon correctly, would that "prove" The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is true? Would everyone be compelled to join the Church?
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@JasontheLayman Actually that is a very bad drawing of Brigham Young. If you are going to insult someone do it correctly. Otherwise you appear to be an idiot.
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Both of these false prophets started with the same lie, an unfounded claim to be from the seed of Abraham. They also claimed to speak with angels and they both dictated another Gospel, the heretical Qur'an and nonsensical Book of Mormon.
They were both proven to be liars.
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@artMISSIONARY Jesus vouches for Moses. He quotes the Torah constantly
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Ironic.
Isn’t the whole LDS religion just based off one guy and his “trust me bro” statements?
Porter Rockwell’s Bodyguard@prockwellbg
I’m gonna be honest, I find it very painful when non-LDS Christians talk about the 500+ eyewitnesses. They usually completely ignore that it is actually only a single (anonymous) eyewitness who wrote anything about it.
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@CatholicInUtah The RCC killed those who disagreed with the during the Spanish Inquisition.
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People have garnered attention with slop tweets like:
“Mormons aren’t Christian” or
“Mormons are white Muslims” or
“Mormons are mountain Jews”
But has anyone tried
“Mormons are Hindus”?
Because they also think Jesus is A son of God, not THE son of God.
Lysander@UnderCoercion
Vivek: Jesus is A son of god but Jesus is not THE son of god. Jesus is A way to heaven but not THE way to heaven.
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@prockwellbg There had to be a fall for faith to have function. If there was no separation from man to God, then there would be no purpose in life.
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@artMISSIONARY Why didn’t God place them in Eden instead of creating them in a fallen state?
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Latter-day Saints, I have a question:
Why did God choose to place Adam and Eve in Eden?
Please share your understanding in the comments.
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