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Founder | Encoded Insight Offloading operational burden so owners can focus where they're most valuable.

参加日 Mart 2022
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EncodedInsight@EncodedInsight·
Lately, whenever I open this app and see the latest tricks, and hacks, and notes, and workflows, and spec here and skill there, I can't help but think: All of this will be washed away by the models. Every carefully crafted line of code that's precious to you right now will be gone.
Thorsten Ball@thorstenball

Lately, whenever I open this app and see the latest tricks, and hacks, and notes, and workflows, and spec here and skill there, I can't help but think: All of this will be washed away by the models. Every Markdown file that's precious to you right now will be gone.

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EncodedInsight@EncodedInsight·
@ibuildthecloud Which "vibe coding" are you referring to here? The one that has extensive planning and iterations or the true yolo or both?
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Darren Shepherd
Darren Shepherd@ibuildthecloud·
There's so many things wrong with vibe coding. Learn the skill, there's advantages. But there are also huge disadvantages. I'm telling you, the future of coding is going to look very close to what we do now, just with some better tools and approaches. It's a step improvement that will have a compounding effect. Not a hard switch to an unrecognizable future.
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Eliana@eliana_jordan·
“Apps are dead.” I don’t buy it. People still want tools to: → remember → stay motivated → track things → make better decisions Demand is still there.
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EncodedInsight@EncodedInsight·
@staysaasy We need you to follow the process but you can't follow it now.
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staysaasy@staysaasy·
When I was at BigTech, the thing that made me eventually quit was a debate about database usage. I was writing an internal tool to do a bunch of database operations for SREs. They previously all had their own yolo scripts and one of them caused a major incident. So I write this tool and am using our default database library and it just absolutely sucks. Is so slow. Cannot do things fast enough because it’s building queries so dumb. So I open this super large PR and my VP personally reviews it and leaves about fifty comments. I won’t fix all of them but like two. I gotta ship this. So my manager is like dude you can’t won’t fix ever comment from the VP. And notably we can’t go around the database library. I’m like dude it’s dumb. It’s slow. It makes my code trash. So my manager sits me down with our two most senior engineers and they’re like yeah dude you gotta use the database library. The answer is to use it and make it faster, not code around it. And I quit like a month later. Now, as I’ve gotten older I’ve realized two things. First, they were totally right that I should have used the default library. Having sprawling one off code and not using standard patterns is a disaster for software organizations. But, they should have just fixed it. They could have looked at the tooling, debugged the slowness, and had it fixed in a day. They took a ticket to fix it and it didn’t get done before I left. Sometimes the org is right. Sometimes it’s wrong. Sometimes it’s both at the same time.
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EncodedInsight@EncodedInsight·
@shiftj Agreed. The ease of data capture is inverse to the value of the data.
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JC@shiftj·
@EncodedInsight Even still, never been easier to compete. Also, that advantage may be also be at risk in the coming years as data becomes easier and easier to capture and migrate (this is already a growing trend)
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EncodedInsight@EncodedInsight·
@Austen Me: can you write integration tests? AI Agent: I mocked the entire backend and the tests are passing as expected
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Austen Allred@Austen·
AI Agent: "We're all set and you're totally ready, the app is working and fully ready for production." Me: "OK, what else do you think would make the app better?" AI Agent: "Well, I completely faked the backend so no data will persist. Would you like me to build a backend?"
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Rick Manelius
Rick Manelius@rickmanelius·
Do GitHub stars matter anymore if it’s all OpenClaw agents?
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EncodedInsight@EncodedInsight·
@Austen Still don't agree with it. You will end up moving that context somewhere else.
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EncodedInsight@EncodedInsight·
@HackingDave We (SWE) currently do a poor job of articulating what this _stuff_ is that isn't in the capabilities of the model. We just have a sense that it can't do what we do and that the "vibe coded" outputs are inferior. We need to do a better job of articulating what is missing.
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Dave Kennedy
Dave Kennedy@HackingDave·
Here's why I think software engineering is safe, but different. I'm seeing so much stuff being created from folks that haven't been developers - don't understand programming nor architecture/infrastructure deployment. It's usually really rough, riddled with bugs, barely works - usually very basic. Software engineering - AI will become a massive force amplifier - having 15 developers or more working for you real time and being able to get stuff out much faster. For me, it's sped up my development to 200% or more. Example, the social engineer toolkit, I spent 10 years of my life coding that thing virtually everyday for hours and hours at a time. Sometimes not sleeping for 2-3 days because I was coding. End of 10 years, 59K lines of code written. Project I'm working on right now, 9 months worth of work, 159K lines of code. It's amazing, but software engineering, understanding underlying technologies and infrastructure, being able to articulate exact specs on what it should do, how it should work, the coding structure around it is something I don't see changing with AI. It'll get better, you will always need software engineers. I think the statement that SE are dead is highly inaccurate.
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JC
JC@shiftj·
@EncodedInsight I have so many questions for you.. cool if I DM?
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JC@shiftj·
I just saw my lawyer friend *literally* read 1,000 pages of documents trying to pull out the facts for his case. It took him 3 days, what a waste of time.. Friends don't let friends manually read 1k pages of documents. Going to spend the weekend automating that for him. If you've got any lawyer friends, send em my way. Happy to share the love.
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EncodedInsight@EncodedInsight·
@rahulj51 Specs are context. Code is context. Specs are throwaway then so is code? Or all spec info is in code?
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Rahul Jain@rahulj51·
I don't know. Hard for me to agree with the spec-is-code argument. Specs are low fidelity. They aren't a common shared DSL. Have very low signal to noise. Not verifiable or deterministic. They don't encourage iterative work. Almost always written by an agent, thus prone to more slop. Lose their inherent value as soon as they are converted to code. Specs are throwaway. They are a way to temporarily express behavior intent - an agent translates that to a version of code. That's the thing that lives forever. If you are convinced that spec is code then you should be able to confidently delete all code and regenerate from specs.
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EncodedInsight@EncodedInsight·
@rishikagupta__ What makes something not a simple wrapper in your view? What things are not in the path of the foundational model providers?
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Rishika Gupta@rishikagupta__·
Are there any good AI startups that don’t look like simple wrappers?
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EncodedInsight@EncodedInsight·
@shiftj Basically just LLM powered doc review - prompt based search of relevant sections that were linked and summarized for the user e.g. Give me any document section that refers to or could be related to the {incident}
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JC@shiftj·
@EncodedInsight awesome - what did you build exactly? curious how similar it is to what I'm working on
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EncodedInsight@EncodedInsight·
@shiftj I built one using Azure AI Foundry and its super easy. You can use the Open AI API standard and so its quite easy to switch as well if you want to go the Enterprise route.
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JC@shiftj·
@EncodedInsight Looking into how far you can get with a self-hosted, closed circuit build. (Could be overkill - lot of Legal Tech companies using OpenAI Enterprise Tier apparently)
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EncodedInsight@EncodedInsight·
@arvidkahl I do now because it is all filtered by my own prompt that only alerts me for things I actually need to see.
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Arvid Kahl
Arvid Kahl@arvidkahl·
Do you have a healthy relationship with email?
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